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Lockheed 1049 Super G Connie  
User currently offlineMac From United States of America, joined May 2001, 293 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 2229 times:

If there are any people here who are interested in what to me was the most beautiful airliner ever built, and if you have the time, go out to the Airline History Museum At Kansas City and climb aboard their Lockheed 1049 Super G Constellation all done up in TWA livery of the period. The aircraft is completely restored inside and out
and regularly tours airshows all over the country.
While there, go aboard their Martin 404 Martinliner, again fully equipped and in beautiful condition. Then take a look at the Douglas DC-3, a 24 passenger transport being given a ground up restoration. She too will be flying in TWA livery of her era. The big Douglas at Kansas City was originally purchased out of the factory in 1941.

I spent two days at the museum and made a lot of friends and became a member. I plan to go back and see if they will let me vacuum the cabin carpet and clean the windows inside the Connie.

Best

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User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2189 times:

You lucky dog, you!!!  Wink/being sarcastic If I were a member there, the one thing I would want to do is wax & polish the propeller's hubs.  Wink/being sarcastic Regards.


"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." --Ben Franklin
User currently offlineMac From United States of America, joined May 2001, 293 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2188 times:

The 1049 is a beauty and I will go back to see her. The only problem I have is that I live in San Diego...and she lives in Kansas City...so I'm afraid I will be able to date her but only once a year...if that.

User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2186 times:

Ever been to the Grand Canyon? There's an airport just south there that is a branch of the Chino Air Museum. Anyway, this branch has General MacArthur's personal transport there, the "Bataan". She's a Connie too, all decked out in military colors. So if you need a Connie fix, she's just a few hours drive from SAN. Regards.


"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." --Ben Franklin
User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2183 times:


Hi!

When I see a post with those magic letter L1049 I always like to contribute... Infact although I use the CV990 as a username I'm a real fan of the Constellation family, perhaps because when I was a small kid the first aircraft I remember visiting was a TAP L1049G-82. Since then I always like to talk, chat, read and look to those beauties. One of my dreams is one day to fly in a Super Constellation, I hope I can manage. TAP was aclient of those planes in the past and I always looked to them closely. TAP ordered their first L1049's in 1953, competing against the DC-6B, they ordered 3 ( CS-TLA/B and C ) all of them came without tip-tanks and weather radar, latter TAP leased one Seaboard & Western L1049H-82 during 1 year ( CS-TLD ). In 1961 TAP bought 2nd. hand another 2 L1049's ex: THAI and Aerovias Guest ( CS-TLE and TLF ) both with tip tanks and Bendix weather radar. Also at that time TAP upgraded their other 3 Super Constellations with weather radar too. In 1967 TAP sold all their Constellations, some of them played an important role in Biafra war ( CS-TLA and CS-TLC ).
I hope you like this information.
Regards


User currently offlineMac From United States of America, joined May 2001, 293 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2172 times:

Hello there CV-990,

Your user name is the model of one of two jet airliners designed and produced in my town of San Diego, California. The other was the CV-880. Both were very fast and had excellent control response...but both were not designed to carry loads like the 707 and DC-8. The CV's
engines were also known to eat up a great deal of fuel compared to other airliners of its day.

I am very happy you like the Lockheed 1049 Super G Constellation. But I must confess that the 049 and 749 are my favorites. One of the two was the first Connie
I had ever been in or have flown in. It was all shiny bare
metal with the only color being red....and that used in the TWA lettering and the stripes along the side of the fuselage and the horizontal stripes on the triple tails.

Mr. Lockheed (whose name was really spelled Loughead before he had it changed to the spelling we see now, always made a very interesting, well designed, and nice looking aircraft...especially his airliners. From the model 10 Electras to the L-1011 Lockheed Tri-Star. Even the model 14's which to me looked a bit like a little twin engine flying whale, was an interesting and even indearing aircraft. Yes, Lockheed had the vision and the designers.....but did not have the sales people for the commercials. They did much better, I think, over on the military side.

Doug Vernon AKA Mac










User currently offlineAirCanadaMan From Canada, joined Feb 2000, 465 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2165 times:

Last time I was in that Connie was in November, when it was visiting Kessler AFB in Biloxi Mississippi, I found one problem.

Had you looked closely, you would have noticed that all the seats except for maybe a few, are those of a mainline DC-10, complete with headphone plug, volume and channel control.
The seats at the front are apparently the originals, but when you look at the state they found it in, its no wonder why there wasnt any seats left!

Anyways, very nice plane, and wonderfully restored.


User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7784 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (13 years 4 months 4 weeks ago) and read 2163 times:

While we are on the subject of Connies, maybe you Connie fans can tell me the difference between the major models, the 049, 749, and 1049.

Now I remember watching an episode of Wings where they profiled the Connie. One of the unique features at the time was that it had reversable props, which made for good short field ability and allowed the plane to back itself up. Secondly they talked about the Connie's lack of cargo capacity. They showed a lightweight aluminum belly container, this was on Eastern's Constellations, that was used to increase cargo capacity.

Even being to youngin' that I am I have always been fascinated by the Constellation. The triple tails, the graceful curves of the fuselage. I have and still want a carved mahogony model of a TWA Super G. I did see the restored Constellation in the MATS colors many years ago. A very graceful looking aircraft.



Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
User currently offlineMac From United States of America, joined May 2001, 293 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2156 times:



Hey DesertJets,

The belly container Eastern used on its connies was called a 'Speed-pac'. I think it was designed only for Eastern. It fit flush to the contour of the bottom of the fuselage.


User currently offlineGaruda From Indonesia, joined Nov 2000, 584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2154 times:

Hi Mac,

I'm pretty sure that QANTAS also had those Speed-pacs. There are some pics of QANTAS's Connies with Speed-pacs in John Gunn's book, Challenging Horizons: QANTAS 1939-1954.

JA


User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2144 times:


Hi!

Major differences between the C69/L049/L649/L749 and the L1049 were:

1 - The tails of th early version were one piece moving instead of the Super that had 2 pieces

2 - The L1049 was longer and had square windows, the other was shorter and had circular windows.

regards


User currently offlineMac From United States of America, joined May 2001, 293 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (13 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2131 times:

Thanks for the info, Garuda...didn't know that and have
saved your information for future conversations.

Also met up with Capt. Gunn last month. What a nice guy! He gave me an autographed copy of his latest book. He also loved the CV-880. He pretty much likened it to a four engine fighter plane.

Best
Mac


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