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Central American Aviation Thread. Part 32  
User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4339 posts, RR: 4
Posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 12160 times:



THE CENTRAL AMERICAN AVIATION THREAD.
PART XXXII

The civil aviation in El Salvador

A new edition of the regional civil aviation is up and running !
Following the ordinary sequence, the current version is dedicated to the civil aviation in El Salvador being its landscape entirely dominated by the operations at MSLP/SAL Comalapa San Salvador International which lies more than 40 kilometers away from the capital city. That airport is one of the three main bases of GRUPO TACA and we most likely see some expansion there shortly and influenced by the new commercial merger named AVIANCA/TACA.
El Salvador doesn't provide regular domestic flights by means of regional planes as compared with the rest of the neighboring countries.
Here are listed the current international operations in El Salvador as direct flights. Feel free to correct me if something has been misleading:


TACA: Belize City, Guatemala City, Managua, Tegucigalpa, San Pedro Sula, Roatan, San Jose, Panama City, Mexico City, Cancun, Toronto, Miami, Orlando, New York JFK, Washington IAD, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Dallas/Ft. Worth, Houston, Lima.

COPA: Managua, Panama City.

American Airlines: Miami, Los Angeles, Dallas/Ft. Worth [no longer in service].

Continental: Houston, New York/Newark EWR

Delta: Atlanta.

Mexicana: Mexico City, Cancun [never started]



We can also speak about the former Ilopango International airport [ICAO: MSSS] as the main gateway from that country in the past. I recall some nice pics from that airport and supplied by our fellow a.netters.
Finally, this nice top-view leaving from San Salvador International has been attached and it was dated on February 15th 2010. Enjoy your Salvadorian pupusas and let’s roll the thread one more time…




Regards.


"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
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User currently offlineviaggiare From Costa Rica, joined Jan 2007, 2117 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 12177 times:

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Thread starter):

COPA: Managua, Panama City.

American Airlines: Miami, Los Angeles, Dallas/Ft. Worth [no longer in service].

Continental: Houston, New York/Newark EWR

Delta: Atlanta.

Mexicana: Mexico City, Cancun [never started]

I honestly thought more airlines served SAL so this comes as somewhat of a surprise. Well, not really. Anyway, so the cartel has managed to keep all but five competitors away from its home turf, huh?



Ubi bene ibi patria.
User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2436 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 12177 times:

Talking about El Salvador, due to the amount of flights available from SAL, maybe there's no demand for commercial flights between MSSS and SYQ or PAC.


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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 5889 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 12120 times:

Quoting viaggiare (Reply 1):
Anyway, so the cartel has managed to keep all but five competitors away from its home turf, huh?

alive and well!



When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4339 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12112 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 2):
maybe there's no demand for commercial flights between MSSS and SYQ or PAC.

Probably not.
TACA REGIONAL operates some international regional flights to Managua, San Jose, Tegucigalpa, Roatan and San Pedro Sula out of San Salvador. The airline needs the connectivity of passengers through its base at SAL.




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Quoting viaggiare (Reply 1):
I honestly thought more airlines served SAL so this comes as somewhat of a surprise.

AVIANCA is planning some flights to Canada and stopping in El Salvador.

Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2436 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12107 times:

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 4):
The airline needs the connectivity of passengers through its base at SAL.

Yes, TA needs connectivity, but other airline could do O/D traffic out of MSSS, if there's a demand.

IB MAD-GUA-PTY-MAD becomes MAD-PTY-MAD 4 times per week.And IB awaits CM to
tranfer passenger from/to its MAD-PTY-MAD flights.
In Spanish, from www.prensa.com



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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 5889 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12105 times:

From last thread

"The Invation was planned on January 4 1976, but a 7.6 Earthquake hit Guatemala, so they abort the invation.
How do I know this, my dad was already on a Bell UH1 he was the pilot"

Haha! Divine intervention!

Nevertheless the brits were ready for them.



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User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4339 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12100 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 5):
IB MAD-GUA-PTY-MAD becomes MAD-PTY-MAD 4 times per week

We had previously commented here the imminent entrance of UX MAD-PTY-MAD. I ignore the current status but this maneuver assumed by the dedicated IB MAD-PTY-MAD seems to be a smart move against its competitor.

Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
User currently offlineaer From Guatemala, joined Mar 2004, 1044 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12067 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 5):
IB MAD-GUA-PTY-MAD becomes MAD-PTY-MAD 4 times per week.And IB awaits CM to
tranfer passenger from/to its MAD-PTY-MAD flights. In Spanish, from www.prensa.com

So they're not gonna start another flight to keep GUA?



nice and spacious airports in need of new airlines and flights... GUA or FRS anyone?... anyone at all?
User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2436 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12066 times:

Quoting aer (Reply 8):
So they're not gonna start another flight to keep GUA?

La Prensa made no mention whatoever to what's going to happen to IB in GUA.
Is IB going to start a new flight MAD-GUA-XXX-MAD or include a GUA stop in their SJO flights several days per week?



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User currently offlinejuanchito From Guatemala, joined Nov 2000, 1151 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12063 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 6):
Nevertheless the brits were ready for them.

Yep they have the Harriers ready.

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 6):
"The Invation was planned on January 4 1976, but a 7.6 Earthquake hit Guatemala, so they abort the invation.
How do I know this, my dad was already on a Bell UH1 he was the pilot"

Well this help alot on earthquake rescue.

Juanchito



Chapin de corazon.
User currently offlinejuanchito From Guatemala, joined Nov 2000, 1151 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12061 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 9):
La Prensa made no mention whatoever to what's going to happen to IB in GUA.
Is IB going to start a new flight MAD-GUA-XXX-MAD or include a GUA stop in their SJO flights several days per week?

I hope they will start MAD-GUA-XXX-MAD.

Juanchito



Chapin de corazon.
User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4339 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12055 times:

Update:

The triangular IB MAD-GUA-PTY-MAD is splitting their operations in September 2010:

IB 6347..........MAD 12:30.........GUA 15:45.................340............Ex Mo, We
IB 6347..........GUA 16:55 .........PTY 20:15.................340............Ex Mo, We
IB 6348..........PTY 21:40...........MAD 14:30+1............340............Ex Mo, We
Till September 30th



IB 6341.............MAD 12:30..........GUA 15:40.............. 340..............Ex We, Fr, Su
IB 6342.............GUA 17:25..........MAD 13:45+1...........340..............Ex We, Fr, Su
Effective: October 01st


IB 6345..............MAD 13:45..........PTY 17:15................340...............Ex Mo, Tu, Th
IB 6346..............PTY 21:15...........MAD 14:05+1...........340...............Ex Mo, Tu, Th
Effective: October 01st

Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
User currently offlineCM767 From Panama, joined Dec 2004, 649 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 12016 times:

Finally something from CM on the merger:


http://www.copaair.com/sites/cc/en/n...ntal-Airlines-United-Airlines.aspx



"Due to the merger between Continental Airlines and United Airlines

Copa Airlines and Aero República would like to inform their customers that the airlines' strong strategic and commercial alliance with Continental Airlines will remain unchanged, including participation in all alliance programs and initiatives such as codeshare flights, OnePass frequent-flyer program benefits, and our joint operation with Continental of the Presidents Club at Tocumen International Airport.



Even though it is too early to determine what changes will take place during the merger process between Continental and United, we are confident that the Copa Airlines/Aero República alliance with the new airline will be even stronger and will continue to provide valuable benefits to our customers, including an added value the merger brings -- access to a an even more extensive global network, with greater and better travel options and services."


No surprise here as expected.



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User currently offlineaa1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3414 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 11986 times:

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 12):
The triangular IB MAD-GUA-PTY-MAD is splitting their operations in September 2010:

So the flight is going from 5x per week as a triangle to 4 days a week each to city individually. That's a nice bump in capacity there from IB!

Here's hoping CM is booted out by CO in favour of AV-TA and seeks solace with oneworld! hehe

AA1818



God is a Trini...
User currently onlinemt99 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 6546 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 11973 times:
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Quoting aa1818 (Reply 14):
That's a nice bump in capacity there from IB!

Why all the obsession with IB? Talk about a bad airline!



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User currently offlinejuanchito From Guatemala, joined Nov 2000, 1151 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 11956 times:

Quoting aa1818 (Reply 14):
So the flight is going from 5x per week as a triangle to 4 days a week each to city individually. That's a nice bump in capacity there from IB!

Yep that is a nice bump, no more stop over PTY for GUA pax.

Does the A-340 have the legs for GUA-MAD for a 3000mt runway and 5000ft high?

Juanchito



Chapin de corazon.
User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3283 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 11932 times:

Any news on the development of the new airport at La Union?


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User currently offlineviaggiare From Costa Rica, joined Jan 2007, 2117 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 11903 times:

Speaking of the motherland, His Royal Highness The Prince of Asturias is scheduled to arrive in SJO this evening between 1915 and 1930 local time.


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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 5889 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 11890 times:

Quoting SJOtoLIR (Reply 12):
IB 6341.............MAD 12:30..........GUA 15:40.............. 340..............Ex We, Fr, Su
IB 6342.............GUA 17:25..........MAD 13:45+1...........340..............Ex We, Fr, Su

Can the 340 make it without penalty GUA-MAD?

Quoting CM767 (Reply 13):
Even though it is too early to determine what changes will take place during the merger process between Continental and United, we are confident that the Copa Airlines/Aero República alliance with the new airline will be even stronger and will continue to provide valuable benefits to our customers, including an added value the merger brings -- access to a an even more extensive global network, with greater and better travel options and services."


No surprise here as expected.

Sounding like a *A "partner" to me

Quoting juanchito (Reply 16):
Does the A-340 have the legs for GUA-MAD for a 3000mt runway and 5000ft high?

same question I had.

Quoting aa1818 (Reply 14):
Here's hoping CM is booted out by CO in favour of AV-TA and seeks solace with oneworld! hehe

What you do over in this thread! Welcome
   



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User currently offlineCaymanair From Cayman Islands, joined Apr 2004, 856 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 11885 times:

Quoting aa1818 (Reply 14):
Here's hoping CM is booted out by CO in favour of AV-TA and seeks solace with oneworld! hehe

Never! We must do our best to keep them away from such bad company!

My question is how TACA/ AVIANCA and COPA will be able to coexist in the same alliance. Somethings got to give...


User currently offlineaer From Guatemala, joined Mar 2004, 1044 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 11867 times:

Quoting juanchito (Reply 16):
Does the A-340 have the legs for GUA-MAD for a 3000mt runway and 5000ft high?

Juanchito

To my knowledge, and many comments in a.net, it doesn't due to both factors you mentioned. I guess we'll just wait for the new pair up, unless they'll stop in FRS lol



nice and spacious airports in need of new airlines and flights... GUA or FRS anyone?... anyone at all?
User currently offlineviaggiare From Costa Rica, joined Jan 2007, 2117 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 11847 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 3):
alive and well!

The time shall come when airlines so wildly averse to any form of competition —along with their shady concubines in all levels of government— will be exhibited in museums and read about in history books.

Quoting Caymanair (Reply 20):
My question is how TACA/ AVIANCA and COPA will be able to coexist in the same alliance.

I ask myself the same thing. And if the unthinkable does happen then perhaps it should be aptly renamed Star Silly Alliance.



Ubi bene ibi patria.
User currently offlineviaggiare From Costa Rica, joined Jan 2007, 2117 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 11783 times:

Quoting Caymanair (Reply 20):
Quoting aa1818 (Reply 14):
Here's hoping CM is booted out by CO in favour of AV-TA and seeks solace with oneworld! hehe

Never! We must do our best to keep them away from such bad company!

Just curious as to who in Oneworld would you consider to be a bad alliance companion, IB? MX? BA? AA?  



Ubi bene ibi patria.
User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2436 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (3 years 11 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 11659 times:

Copa Airlines is seeking to grow with more frequencies and routes - From www.prensa.com - in Spanish
"In its participation in the Reuters Forum on Investment in Latin America, Pedro Heilbron said the airline, which has quadrupled its fleet to 56 aircraft since 1998, has identified just over 30 potential new destinations in the region that could benefit from its model business."
30 (thirty) potential new destinations?!   



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25 viaggiare : As for CentAm I bet LIR and BZE —maybe even DAV— are in the list. Short and thin, suitable for the E90.
26 yellowtail : Hope so!
27 SJOtoLIR : I'm not aware the accurate answer for that. Just as a reference, AF BOG-CDG is operating daily with 343. However, it was not a good reference because
28 2travel2know2 : Compare the population of the regions in Central Europe and Asia where all those Star Alliance airlines co-exist. Add up the populations of each coun
29 viaggiare : Seven reasons why Kriete and his boss Efromovich should just forget about Star Alliance and try to join SkyTeam... 1. The new dynamics at play after
30 aer : I couldn't stop laughing for a while
31 yellowtail : To be fair Viaggare is right on with his analysis.
32 aer : I do agree, I just never expected someone to put that relationship as with a sugar daddy (which is very ad hoc). It's just the type of comment that f
33 Post contains links 2travel2know2 : Interview with Pedro Heilbron CM CEO from www.prensa.com - in Spanish CM could double it's growth rate in 2 years. Questions about CM in Star Alliance
34 yellowtail : Guys..TA avg L/F on SAL-BZE-SAL for April was an astonishing 95%. So why they trimmed one flight for may is a mystery.
35 yellowtail : Just noticed they upgraded to a 319 from the e190 today. AFAIK...TA has made the decision to keep the aircraft sitting on the ground all day here. TA
36 Post contains links SJOtoLIR : It's an interesting analysis ! However, I would disagree with in the point number six particularly: the new merger AV/TA has rather boosted lately th
37 2travel2know2 : How true could be the rumors that CM is going to get B737-900ER? CM need at least one of those. As long as CM can't get addtional frequencies to MEX o
38 yellowtail : Guys I need to take back what I said a few posts ago...word reaching me from the BZE airport authority suggests that TACA might finally be changing th
39 aa1818 : Im sure that they've identified Cities such as - More cities in Cuba, and Perhaps other cities in Puerto Rico? - English speaking Caribbean- ANU (LI
40 2travel2know2 : I can only imagine SCU and VRA (to free leisure seats from HAV flights). GEO, PBM w/E190 twice weekly to start, maybe. CUZ, no way, none of CM aircra
41 aa1818 : What about JUL (Juliaca)- it's near Puno which is on Lake Titicaca and can provide land connections to Bolivia? I dunno- probably a stretch! Why is i
42 juanchito : Taca will be starting flights from GUA to MCO starting november 2010. TA423....GUA 06:25 - MCO 11:20 TA422....MCO 19:55 - GUA 21:55 Operating this fli
43 yellowtail : with those days obviously aimed at Disney folk....but this looks like a long shot to succeed to me....I dunno what you guys think. Maybe a preemptive
44 juanchito : I was thinking the same thing maybe it's just seasonal but really don't know. Notice that the flight will be more than 8:30 hours in MCO or they retu
45 yellowtail : I am thinking that this is a preemptive strike against B6. B6 cut their teeth on non-tourism routes with KIN and BOG and did really well.....so they a
46 aer : But for CM to be a full "Code-Share Slut", wouldn't it have to bring back it's own FF program, I mean pax wise, IB, KL, et. al. wouldn't be able to g
47 2travel2know2 : Same altitude situation as CUZ and LPB. Moreover, in that part of Perú/Bolivia the winner as CM next destination could only be AQP, as it's a large
48 carmenlu15 : Whaaa? I'm willing to bet it will be seasonal... though I could be mistaken, will check at work how far in advance are the flights bookable...
49 SJOtoLIR : CM PTY-GRU will be 3x daily soon. The usage of larger planes may save at least one flight in such route. . Arequipa may experience some technical iss
50 yellowtail : ANy news for us on this?
51 aer : I made a search on amadeus.net and saw that the flight starts on November and ends in January. So yeah it's just taking the GU charters to formal sea
52 Post contains links 2travel2know2 : CM will fly to Chiriquí (DAV) and Bocas del Toro (BOC) - from www.prensa.com, in Spanish. According to CM's chief Mr Heilbron, late 2010 or early 201
53 viaggiare : "estamos en el proceso de selección de las aeronaves" — I take this to mean a third aircraft type would be introduced, considering the runways at t
54 juanchito : Santos Dumont in Rio 1323 × 42 m GOL operates 737-800 Midway Chicago 1988 × 45.5 m Southwest operates 737-700 Only if they widden the 1500x20m runw
55 Post contains links viaggiare : Neither place sees rainfall anywhere as intense. We're talking western Panamá and something called the Intertropical Convergence Zone.
56 SJOtoLIR : We have commented here about the utilization of DAV for some seasonal charter operations coming from the US and sustained by jet-planes. For illustra
57 2travel2know2 : The E170? Or some pre-owned E120 ?
58 yellowtail : ATRs maybe..... filler filler
59 SJOtoLIR : Bocas del Toro as a new station served by Copa Airlines ? CM PTY-BOC would surely be its sole destination for the time being. I don't want to speculat
60 viaggiare : "operadores con los cuales desarrollaremos este proyecto" — that could also be a reference to the local tour operators who provide all the ground tr
61 SJOtoLIR : ...and it would be also interesting if these operations will be rather served out of PAC allowing immediate ground transportation to PTY. Regards.
62 Post contains links viaggiare : Star expects to add more members in Latin America and Africa — Fabio Villegas and Pedro Heilbron both in São Paulo this week. Copa CEO Pedro Heilbr
63 Post contains links viaggiare : Avianca-TACA eyes new regional aircraft — One type of jet and one type of turboprop would be chosen by year-end. Replacing the ATR 42s that operate
64 Post contains images carmenlu15 : Yup, seasonal it is. That would be a shame... I'm due for a course in the airport grounds in the next weeks... hope to snap some pics. I may luck out
65 SJOtoLIR : It's strange how the efficient E90 is being questioned at this time. Pluna from Uruguay selected the 100-seater Bombardier CRJs due to the lack of av
66 CM767 : I believe that the E190 for TA is not the issue, the issue could be the pending negotiation for a new 100 seat airplane for AV/TA, for me it is a way
67 SJOtoLIR : Aerocaribbean from May 16th will begin Havana - Guatemala City service as 2x weekly with ATR-72. This route used to be operated by Cubana’s Yak42 ai
68 juanchito : Nice thanks for info. A new airline in Guatemala. Juanchito
69 bjorn14 : I love Boca but there is practically no pax amenities and fuel there. If they are only going to PTY than an E170 would work but they better sharpen t
70 2travel2know2 : BOC is pretty much the same airport CM flew their AVRO until the 70's. I can't imagine CM flying to BOC w/its own metal. Guess is that the PTY-BOC ro
71 yellowtail : 7L also serves BZE 1Xweekly with the ATR. flight does very well.
72 Summa767 : It does look as if GUA-MCO is just seasonal. This aircraft would operate the MCO-SAL and back. Other news: The flight SJO-MDE will go daily from 15th
73 SJOtoLIR : Schedule as follows: TA 423...........GUA 06:25..............MCO 11:20............Mo, Th, Sa................E90 TA 423...........MCO 12:35...........
74 Post contains links viaggiare : Once again the proposed new airport in Coclé province (Panamá) is making headlines. The decision about where to build the international airport in C
75 2travel2know2 : Several municipalities are fighting over to which one an airport already built will be re-located. Coclé province already has MPRH Rio Hato Cap Scar
76 viaggiare : Costa Rican president Laura Chinchilla met briefly in Madrid yesterday with Belgian prime minister Yves Leterme to discuss Jetairfly's interest in ope
77 Summa767 : 23:00. I guess there is a one hour time difference. 11pm arrival is not too terrible. AV' flights to LIM from its main connection banck means a 1 am
78 CM767 : There is a lot of debate about this in Panama, I believe that this airport is not necessary, and better roads could aid local and tourist to access t
79 2travel2know2 : The trip from BLB Howard to the Rio Hato area where the resorts are located may take just over an hour under normal circumstances, which is not all t
80 viaggiare : Thanks for the clarification! And yes, SJO is one hour behind. Despite going up against the daily Iberia nonstop. Let's see how that goes. Just curio
81 Summa767 : Well, there will always be some passengers who will go for a non direct routing even when there is a non-stop option. I don't think AV intends to gra
82 SJOtoLIR : The interest for [AV/TA] and maybe Star Alliance later might be routed through SJO-BOG-MAD, in spite of the dedicated IB SJO-MAD 7x weekly. . BLB is
83 Summa767 : I wrote only AV as it is the one interested in a top up of its flights to Spain, and BCN in particular. TA's interest wil be to have its own non-stop
84 CM767 : That makes more sense, and will open a area that I will call unexploited, so far I have seen little development and expected to have huge potential,
85 realsim : Except that between MAD and BCN there are ~ 45 daily flights (20 of which operated by IB), and between SJO and BOG there are 2 daily flights. The adv
86 SJOtoLIR : The triangular IB MAD-GUA-PTY-MAD would be divided onto IB MAD-GUA-MAD and IB MAD-PTY-MAD. We have here discussed about the restrictions for the IB 3
87 Post contains links OP3000 : As posted by WestIndian on the Caribbean thread: Caribbean Airlines placed third in the SkyTrax World Airline Awards in the Central America/Caribbean
88 2travel2know2 : An intenational airport in Chitre or anywhere esle in Azuero Peninsula doesn't make sense unless there are major resorts there and those resorts are
89 viaggiare : It can also work the other way around. When nonstop scheduled flights from the United States to LIR began eight years ago, the only high-end developm
90 Summa767 : Indeed, if there is a delay, a routing via MAD or overnight stay at BOG would follow if flying AV/TA. I'm not sure how many people would think about
91 CM767 : I agree with you on the above. I personally know Bocas and for me is not overrated, it lacks development, and in a certain way that's part of the cha
92 Post contains links viaggiare : No offense to BW but SkyTrax has got to be the biggest joke in the airline industry. The star rankings is arguably the most irritating and meaningles
93 yellowtail : OH, that is why I saw the E-190 landing in MIA today.
94 bjorn14 : Just curious, does anybody fly out of Colón (ONX)? Seems like an alternative to PTY.
95 2travel2know2 : ONX right now only recieves some executive shuttle flights from PAC Albrook. When there was no toll road and the domestic airport was located in Pait
96 SJOtoLIR : Tocumen, Colón, Balboa, Río Hato.... We are speaking about the upcoming development of four international airports and located within a radius of 10
97 Post contains links viaggiare : According to Wikipedia during the early 1950s this airfield was "served by Boeing 307 Stratoliners and other early airliners flying Pan Am routes fro
98 aer : Any idea how Honduras is getting to South Africa for the World Cup?
99 2travel2know2 : SAP/TGU-CM-PTY-CM-GRU-SA-JNB or SAP/TGU-CM-PTY-CM-EZE-MH-CPT ?
100 aa1818 : MH? Malaysia Airlines! AA1818
101 2travel2know2 : Yes, MH flies twice weekly KUL-JNB-CPT-EZE
102 SJOtoLIR : I'm not sure about the accurate route, but what about to reach Johannesburg through the US and immediately continuing to Europe and then to South Afr
103 Post contains images 2travel2know2 : If the Hondurean National Football team has a travel agent from certain Centralamerican country which didn't make it to the World Cup, maybe the route
104 yellowtail : MW have announced that they will put a FRS stop on thier GUA-BZE flights....with the ATR eff June 6th. IF anyone wants the sked...pm me and and can se
105 aa1818 : do they have rights from South Africa to EZE? What about on the local South African Sector...any rights? AA1818
106 Post contains links yellowtail : CO opening up AKL from IAH with that nice sked will allow for lots of connects from Latin America http://www.continental.com/web/en-US...apps/vendors/
107 SJOtoLIR : MH KUL-JNB-CPT-EZE probably doesn´t have traffic rights within South Africa. In my view, the stopover at CPT is an issue related to the altitude at
108 Caymanair : MH has rights between South Africa and Argentina... Ive done that leg with them myself.
109 juanchito : GUA airport is closed because it's is raining sand in Guatemala City thanks to Pacaya Volcano. Juanchito[Edited 2010-05-27 19:46:50]
110 aer : Yeah just tuned into the LiveATC MGGT channel and it is dead
111 juanchito : All flights have been diverted to SAL Juanchito
112 aer : All flights incoming flights were diverted to SAL
113 juanchito : I still saw Iberia A340 to PTY-MAD takeoff at 5:30 pm also a Taca A-320 minutes later to SAL Juanchio
114 Post contains links juanchito : Interjet is planning a route for Quetzaltenango to Tapachula Only Spanish http://visitaxela.wordpress.com/2010.../27/vuelos-entre-xela-y-tapachula/ Ju
115 angelmonsteral : Good because Mexicana now will have flights to SJU like COPA but COPA already have flights my opinion is that central america has good potential with
116 2travel2know2 : Only to SAL or also to SAP, BZE, CUN? Does CM have any aircraft stuck in GUA rightnow?
117 juanchito : News said all diverted to SAL All afternoon flights departed without problem, don't know if any of the arrival flight of the night arrived I think th
118 juanchito : GUA airport will be closed for 2 days, that is what local news according to Airport Authorities. Juanchito
119 SJOtoLIR : InterJet from Mexico failed in the past trying to sustain flights linking [Guatemala City and Toluca 7x weekly] as well as [Guatemala City and Cancun
120 juanchito : Yep we are aware from that. Now that they serve MEX this is a diferent story. Juanchito[Edited 2010-05-28 06:42:33]
121 Post contains links viaggiare : I just read here that some of the flights were diverted to FRS. Are you guys busy shoveling that corrosive stuff off your rooftops?
122 aer : Yup will be busy doing that and I'm glad that they're using FRS, another nice underused airport.
123 juanchito : Nice to see them use FRS, I have to wash my car and shoveled my front part of the house. The only good thing is that there is no Traffic (presa) Juan
124 SJOtoLIR : Speaking about InterJet, some operations are departing out of TLC and most of them are concentrated at MEX. I'm still puzzled about the intended route
125 Post contains links viaggiare : My concern is that Pacaya's explosive fury coincides with a developing tropical cyclone which could potentially shower rain-soaked ash over a much wi
126 aer : Cuando mucho, cuando nada comes in to mind
127 juanchito : yep, it has been raining the las 48 hours, but this has help so the ash is settle to the ground, so no dust is afecting our lungs. Last time this hap
128 viaggiare : Very nice indeed and with a lot of unrealized potential. The other day I found an old (31/12/03) picture of myself standing on that tarmac against a
129 juanchito : Right know Ash have started falling in Guatemala City. Juanchito
130 viaggiare : Wet volcanic ash can have a density of about twenty times that of fresh snow. These sand-size particles of igneous rock material are actually insolub
131 yellowtail : Sounds like a mess
132 2travel2know2 : Over the next few days it looks like SAL will be Guatemala City airport. That's if it's easy to get from SAL to Guatemala City by road.
133 aer : Depending on your driving, 4 hrs
134 2travel2know2 : I've done it in less than 3 hours, worse part is getting in and out of Guatemala City. Using FRS as GUA relief airport duing the Pacaya ash situation
135 Post contains images carmenlu15 : Nope. Too busy working round the clock to cope with the demand of people calling to reschedule their flights... So far, all flights until Sunday have
136 aer : Nah, they're just trying to take away the Pacaya's thunder hehe.
137 juanchito : Just saw some news that La Aurora will be closed at least until Thursday. We have right know Tropical Storm Agath over Guatemala Juanchito[Edited 2010
138 SJOtoLIR : Copa Airlines is waiving penalties for those passengers who are able to re-route their travel through either SAL or SAP. TACA reports a similar plan
139 2travel2know2 : There are only 200Km between GUA and SAL. We don't want to think what would happen if that Guatemalan volcanic ash heads towards SAL due the tropical
140 IBERIA747 : Ooops. Serious trouble then if that finally happens. Last Thursday Iberia flight 6347/6348 was lucky enough to depart GUA bound for PTY-MAD shortly b
141 Post contains images 2travel2know2 : If GUA airport is closed, PTY bound passengers have to suffer. Good one IB. It would be good to know how many passengers on those cancelled flights w
142 IBERIA747 : And why would Iberia be guilty of anything here? I think the airline is doing the right thing and it would be worse if those people going to PTY were
143 2travel2know2 : Flying MAD-PTY-MAD wasn't an option then? And how much of that if F/J cabin to/from PTY?
144 juanchito : My brother works at Continental in Guatemala and they have told him extraofficially that airport will be closed until June 7. Tropical storm has just
145 IBERIA747 : Don't think it's a decision that is so easy to make. I don't know how the operations department manages this (heck, I don't even work in the aviation
146 Post contains links IBERIA747 : Oh cr@p... It's already been published by Guatemalan press... http://www.prensalibre.com/noticias/...cera-cerrado-dias_0_270573127.html I hope that t
147 Post contains images carmenlu15 : Crazy days at work... some passengers don't seem to understand that it's not our fault that the airport is closed (yeeeeeeah... like we knew where th
148 juanchito : GUA airport is open just for relief traffic. Juanchito
149 IBERIA747 : Just an update: Now that there are reliable news about what's to happen with GUA in the next few days, IB 6347 departed MAD today at 12:56 bound for P
150 SCL767 : Copa de Panamá will commence non-stop flights to Asunción, Paraguay during the first quarter of 2011.
151 yellowtail : rapidly closing in on serving most of the major cities in LatAm
152 2travel2know2 : No news on CM website yet. Has CM figured out how to do with the Paraguayan Air-ticket Travelagents commission law? Does CM website online sales, ori
153 SCL767 : According to la Dirección Nacional de Aeronáutica Civil (DINAC), four new carriers will enter the Paraguayan market late 2010 and during 2011. Aire
154 SJOtoLIR : It seems like a smart move as both CM and TA are doing at this time as described some lines above. IB may utilize the code-share cooperation with TA
155 viaggiare : I once ventured southeast on CA-1 out of Guatemala City towards the Salvadoran border and made it as far as Jutiapa in what seemed at least a two-hou
156 aer : Well it's 3 hrs to San Salvador and about an hour more from there to SAL. It's kind of a way to say" Llueve sobre mojado" or to express that when you
157 Post contains links and images LAXintl : This AA plane does not look happy at GUA. From MSNBC
158 Post contains links and images viaggiare : Thanks! Whoa! No kidding. Has she been stranded there since last week? Although probably nowhere near as bad as being swallowed by this huge sinkhole
159 Post contains links juanchito : Here is a video I took today, they are cleaning the airport but it is a big task. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQwNJ4Mdjoc Juanchito
160 aer : Actually there are two AA airplanes stranded (the other one is on the next gate), I drove through the airport and they already cleaned them, but you
161 Post contains links and images carmenlu15 : Definitely You know what's sad? It's not the first time that happens... This one is from 2007, also north of the city. I'd say I'm quite content livi
162 Post contains links viaggiare : What's with the black plastic tarp partially covering the fuselage on that E90 about 0:33 into the video? That might indicate parts of the city are b
163 SJOtoLIR : Changing the topic, TACA is increasing its San Salvador - San Francisco service from 10x to 13x weekly. New flights to San Francisco: TA 564..........
164 yellowtail : I remember flying to SFO on TA 733's that needed a tech stop for fuel in MZT.
165 SJOtoLIR : You meant the former TACA; am I correct in that ? If I remember correctly, San Francisco was sometimes served as tag-on operations from TA SAL-LAX du
166 Post contains links viaggiare : Once again it seems TACA planners ought to do some reading on efficient fleet utilization for having yet another aircraft sit idle for over eleven ho
167 juanchito : GUA airport is open now for any type of operation. Juanchito
168 Post contains images carmenlu15 : Hey, as long as it boosts tourism... I would think the a/c arriving at SFO at 19:52 would be leaving as the 1 a.m. flight, and the one arriving at mi
169 IBERIA747 : Iberia will have to wait a bit longer. According to Guatemala's Airport/Aviation Authority (DGAC), the airport is now open to all aircraft types but
170 viaggiare : So apparently IB6347/6348 will be discontinued in favor of a new routing effective 01OCT10 with schedules as follows... IB6341 MAD1140 – 1620GUA1730
171 Post contains links SCL767 : COPA LOOKING AT SXM: Link: http://www.thedailyherald.com/island...marketing-contracts-approved-.html SXM's Tourism Commissioner Frans Richardson was r
172 2travel2know2 : Right now, mainly due to leisure traffic from CM Southamerican destinations, PTY hub could probably support a twice weekly E190 PTY-SXM-PTY daytime s
173 Post contains images yellowtail : I would think so too but could that level of service be worth it for CM? Better off coming to BZE
174 Post contains links SCL767 : I think it would be better to operate a stand alone service between PTY and SXM. CM officials seem to be in the Guyanas lately as well. In regards to
175 2travel2know2 : Both GEO and PBM could support twice weekly E190 flights from PTY. GEO may be OK for a day-time flight like POS or MAO, however, CM E190 can't make i
176 viaggiare : So if we are to believe the Paraguayan vice-president ASU would become a focus city for CM with non-stop flights to secondary markets and/or thinner
177 SCL767 : Well both Kingston and Port-au-Prince are facing serious social and economic problems at the moment. SXM wants CM to promote SXM tourism, similar to
178 viaggiare : In the case of Suriname and Saint Maarten my hallucination is it could be part of some code-sharing agreement involving KL and specifically with rega
179 SCL767 : No, BGI, GEO, PBM, SXM, and UVF will provide revenue guarantees as is the norm. What if CM eventually bought the new airline AeroRegional Paraguaya S
180 Post contains images SJOtoLIR : G3 is expanding their services to the Caribbean considering their new flights to both SMX and BGI. . The endless discussion... TA ASU-LIM-[SJO or SAL
181 Post contains links and images viaggiare : Interesting proposition. Not much is known about the airline, other than it was funded by Argentinian and Paraguayan capital, has an offline website
182 SCL767 : Yep, while BGI and SXM will be served on a charter basis, GRU-CCS-PUJ operates on a regular basis using the Varig brand. This is the main reason as t
183 yellowtail : Banking and Free zone traffic alone could sustain a PTY-GCM.
184 SJOtoLIR : TACA is improving service on San Salvador - Belize City route. No more idle planes at BZE tarmac more than eight hours... From San Salvador, three wee
185 Post contains images viaggiare : Hey that proves Kriete does in fact read this thread. Greetings!
186 Post contains links 2travel2know2 : PTY Airport will buy land to expand airport From www.prensa.com - in Spanish Tocumen, S.A. the government company running PTY will buy adjacent land f
187 juanchito : GUA airport is starting to normalize their operations, the last one start operations was AA with the airplanes stuck in GUA with the volcano eruptions
188 yellowtail : Yep...at the beginning of May they told us it would go 10X weekly...then by the end they adjusted the timings and put the flight back to 7Xweekly. Th
189 SJOtoLIR : I visualize TA SAL-BZE as 2x daily in the future with E90 and departing every day in the morning and evening bank out of SAL. This pattern would allo
190 viaggiare : So in your assessment PTY would still be short by how many gates so as to allow for increased hub operations? No doubt CM will closely monitor their
191 Post contains links mt99 : Hey kids, I guess AA will be trying DFW-SAL once more... http://www.elsalvador.com/mwedh/nota...pleta.asp?idCat=6374&idArt=4848700
192 viaggiare : AA1998 SAL0840 – 1310DFW 738 D AA1991 DFW1540 – 1805SAL 738 D
193 mt99 : Thanks! nce again it seems AMERICAN AIRLINES planners ought to do some reading on efficient fleet utilization for having yet another aircraft sit idl
194 Post contains images viaggiare : I guess if your fleet has thirteen times as many aircraft then you are free to indulge in certain luxuries.
195 yellowtail : Never launched...it was promoted as a preventative hedge when CM was looking around BZE What is this..third time? This time I think AA will stick it
196 viaggiare : Exactly. In fact there is another AA aircraft that remains in SAL overnight... AA486 SAL0700 – 1135MIA 738 D AA459 MIA1820 – 1900SAL 738 D
197 2travel2know2 : 10+ gates, but I believe that if CM finds some room for 10 more remote positions now, the need for those gates might not be within the next 18 months
198 mt99 : What, planes don't fly at night? hmm ok... if you say so...
199 viaggiare : Currently there are six remote positions, correct?
200 2travel2know2 : There were 3 remote positions that are no more since that''s the are where the North Concourse is being built, but I don't know if CM used to count t
201 Post contains links SJOtoLIR : The last time, AA DFW-SAL was launch unsuccessfully in April 2008. . The new version has been already loaded... Follow up... Central American Aviatio
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