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Boeing Lands 20 X 777 Order, Who Is It?  
User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5802 posts, RR: 47
Posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 45756 times:

Boeing just posted a 20 x 777 UFO order this week according to their weekly O&D update. Any idea who it is?

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm

[Edited 2010-05-06 08:11:11]


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User currently offlineterryb99 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 45700 times:

Very sweet order!

So who needs that many new wide bodes?


User currently onlineSEPilot From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 7128 posts, RR: 46
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 45657 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
Boeing just posted a 20 x 777 order this week according to their weekly O&D update.

As with the A330, rumors of the death of the 777 have been greatly exaggerated...



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5802 posts, RR: 47
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 45655 times:

I'm thinking EK or QR with EK being the the most obvious and highest probablility.


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User currently offlineboeingfever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 45443 times:

Wow... 2 large 777 UFO orders in the last few weeks. Guessing we will have to wait until Farnborough Air Show or later in the year to find out.

Also I assume the -4 is:

El Al Israel Airlines ISRAEL Middle East 777-200ER 01-May-2008 (4)

Congrats to Boeing.



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User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21582 posts, RR: 59
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 45301 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
Any idea who it is?

Obviously an airline who hasn't heard the 777 is a dead aircraft.



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User currently offlinecolumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7089 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 45144 times:

LH Cargo the order will be announced in HAM on the celebration of the 60 years LH/Boeing commercial partnership

 



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User currently offlineCruiser From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1001 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 45091 times:

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 5):
Obviously an airline who hasn't heard the 777 is a dead aircraft.

I guess their big-wigs haven't been stopping by the A.net forums lately then. Sad really...we could have all saved them some trouble.  

[Edited 2010-05-06 08:32:55]


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User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2840 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 45090 times:

Quoting columba (Reply 6):
LH Cargo the order will be announced in HAM on the celebration of the 60 years LH/Boeing commercial partnership

Seriously? Woaw, finally we would see a LH 777!


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5802 posts, RR: 47
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 45093 times:

Quoting columba (Reply 6):
LH Cargo the order will be announced in HAM on the celebration of the 60 years LH/Boeing commercial partnership

So you're saying that LH is buying 20 x 777F? Might make sense since the 747-8F might be visiting Hamburg according to Flightblogger. It won't be a coincidence



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User currently onlinefcogafa From United Kingdom, joined May 2008, 884 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 45033 times:

Quoting columba (Reply 6):
LH Cargo the order will be announced in HAM on the celebration of the 60 years LH/Boeing commercial partnership

I like that - announce the order in the middle of an Airbus production city!


User currently offlineparapente From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1664 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 44936 times:

Or of course LH orders 20 777-300er's to replace the "i"s (which get converted to LH 748c's).Just kidding really - but would make sense IMHO

User currently offlinecb777 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1216 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 38680 times:

Maybe its an order for B777-300ER's for the new United Airlines to replace the B747-400 fleet


 


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31412 posts, RR: 85
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 37964 times:
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EK was said to announce an aircraft order today with their financial results, but both have been pushed to tomorrow so as to not get buried in coverage of the United Kingdom General Election.

User currently offlineboeingfever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 37964 times:

Quoting columba (Reply 6):
LH Cargo the order will be announced in HAM on the celebration of the 60 years LH/Boeing commercial partnership

Doubtful... This article paints a different picture for LH Cargo.
Lufthansa Cargo readies for recovery after 'very red' 2009

They are not looking to double their fleet and w/o the MD-11 conversions there average fleet age is around 10yrs far from replacement.

Quoting cb777 (Reply 12):
Maybe its an order for B777-300ER's for the new United Airlines to replace the B747-400 fleet

Indeed to replace the 25 744's still in fleet.

In several weeks we have 32 UFO's for the 777 and only a handful of carriers looking to add that kind of serious metal. I can pretty much 99% guarantee the orders are not for the 77E but the 77W and 77L. As for the 77F I do not see any carrier placing an order for 20 not even FX.



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User currently offlinepink77W From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 37877 times:

please let it be Cathay

User currently onlinepnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2296 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 37524 times:

Silly airlines placing orders for the airframes some on Anet call dated technology. Just because the airlines have the financials, performance reports, and route numbers sitting in front of them, they think they know better. Even dumber is Boeing thinking they need to up the volume of the 777 production.

How dare they order 767's still! Can't they see that some on Anet think they are out of vogue. Ignore the numbers, they are lying to you. Once the 787 and the A350 are off the line, if you go by Anetters all A330's and 777 should be banished to cheaper charter operators and third world airlines or chopped to pieces in the desert.

There's the Anet world that is only concerned with bigger and newer, and then there is reality that the airlines face.

Boeing obviously knows who they are negotiating with and what orders will be finalized shortly. So the ramp up annoucement was done with these orders in mind and probably some more top ups to come. There are a number of airlines like AC who are undoubtedly wanting to see how much can be actually loaded in their 787's and the real numbers based on the test program and projected numbers of their aircraft to determine what their final mix will be. They could see room for a top up order of a few more of those options they have outstanding for the 777. I suspect there are a number of players like that. For example in a year or two, given what they think the economy will be, the state of trade and cargo shipments, and passenger travel... does AC stay out of Mumbai or Delhi, try a 787 on the route, or put a 77L loaded to the gills with cargo?


User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21582 posts, RR: 59
Reply 17, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 37331 times:

Quoting cb777 (Reply 12):
Maybe its an order for B777-300ER's for the new United Airlines to replace the B747-400 fleet

That would be premature. It might make sense, but it's premature.

A359s or TENS just don't replace a 744. A 10Y 77W can.

But it's not UA. Not before the shareholders approve the merger at least.



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User currently offlineLAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5086 posts, RR: 47
Reply 18, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 36827 times:

Could it be Thai Airways? It has 18 747s.

User currently onlineBlackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1897 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 36130 times:

Just read today that the A380 is a bust,as is the 747-8I, only the 747-8F is doing well. Could the sale be to an Asian carrier with long haul routes? My thoughts on the CO/UA merger is that they would go with the 747-8I for the international routes, more seats.


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User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5792 posts, RR: 28
Reply 20, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 36125 times:

Quoting pink77W (Reply 15):
please let it be Cathay

Why? Not that I have a problem with them ordering more, but what do you want them to replace?

Personally, I'd rather it be 77W's for a new operator (or - GASP - a US carrier, like that'll happen).

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 17):
But it's not UA. Not before the shareholders approve the merger at least.

It would seem strange to make that large of a widebody purchase right when the merger process starts. It'd be like a person getting engaged, then going out and buying a house on their own. What if the marriage doesn't happen? What if, after getting married, you decide to change neighborhoods, or get a different job, or just choose to "downsize" to save money?

Quoting Stitch (Reply 13):
EK was said to announce an aircraft order today with their financial results, but both have been pushed to tomorrow so as to not get buried in coverage of the United Kingdom General Election.

That'd make sense. It'd be anti-climatic at this point (as any order from them would), but it'd make sense.

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User currently offlinefrigatebird From Netherlands, joined Jun 2008, 1715 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 35476 times:

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 20):
Quoting Stitch (Reply 13):
EK was said to announce an aircraft order today with their financial results, but both have been pushed to tomorrow so as to not get buried in coverage of the United Kingdom General Election.

That'd make sense. It'd be anti-climatic at this point (as any order from them would), but it'd make sense.

Well, the last order for 12 777's was rumoured to be from EK, but even before it turned out to be from SV, there was speculation that 12 would not be enough for EK - they have said earlier this year they would place an order for MORE than 12... So I'd be very surprised of this order for 20 was not EK this time. Will be very interested which types: 77F, 77L, 77W or a combination (my guess).



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6999 posts, RR: 63
Reply 22, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 35340 times:

BA.
filler filler filler filler


User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3255 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 35052 times:

FX be my guess, on another board they are talking about getting many more 777s, and pulling as much out of the desert as they can, including 727s and A-310s. 727s and A-310s would be an interim solution to their requirements and longer term I can see more 777s for their global network replacing MD-11s, which in turn could be used domestically replacing those older aircraft.


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31412 posts, RR: 85
Reply 24, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 34662 times:
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Quoting PM (Reply 22):
BA.

In his latest editorial, S. Ahmad of Fleetbuzz said BA is considering scrapping some or all of their A380 order in the wake of the financial hit they took from the Iceland volcano, but if he is correct and BA want to cancel A388s to save money, why then order 77Ws?

On the flip side, if BA is not in financial distress and has billions to blow on new aircraft, if they do order 20 77Ws to add to the six already set for delivery, that would be a pretty big endorsement of the type, since many on a.net are positive they would order the A350-1000, instead. BA was expected to make their decision on the 777 or A350 late last year, based on Willie Walsh's comments in January 2009 when he announced the 77W order/lease deal.


25 Ben175 : In my wildest dreams i'd like it to be V Australia, placing an order for 4 77L for PER-LHR, 12 77E to expand into the asian market and 4 77W for the s
26 netjetsintl : It could very well be LH cargo.... that'd be a great sight (777 in LH livery)
27 PM : Saj predicting bad news for Airbus? Whatever next?! I suppose it'll have to happen some day... Dunno. Ask the all-knowing Mr. Ahmad. Quite correct. A
28 PlanesNTrains : That would surprise me a great deal. The 787/350 combo seems to be working (in theory) for a number of carriers, just as the 330/777 does today, so i
29 Post contains images cokepopper : interesting that Delta just announced that they are hiring 240 Pilots....
30 Post contains images isitsafenow : I figured out who ordered the planes. Spirit. They can get more bags in the overheads, charge for that like they will in August and enhance revenue li
31 Post contains images Jacobin777 : You sound like as if you have some kind of problem with him..
32 sunking737 : I was thinking that it was someone like Frontier or Allegiant or maybe even Sun Country. Hey I can dream can't I. I bet people at SY will say Oh Hell
33 seabosdca : Do we know for sure that it's one order? I have a hard time believing that one order for 20 is anyone except EK, and I'm even a bit surprised if it's
34 Post contains images aa43e : Well said!! And here I thought sarcasm was a lost art form! For all the esteemed membership knows, they are not in possesion of the vital figures.
35 cpd : He was on the Sydney Airport Message Board recently spreading Airbus doom and gloom as well, pointing to his blog. Received a lot of rolled eyes from
36 Post contains links beeweel15 : Didn't El AL cancell these four aircraft. Saw it here : El Al Cancels 777 Order (by LAXintl Apr 29 2010 in Civil Aviation)?threadid=4795755&searc
37 KFlyer : @pnwtraveler +1. IMHO, this should be for EK. But, would they really need 20 ? If not, then quite possibly UA.
38 Stitch : EK currently has, I believe, 19 777-300ERs yet to be delivered. They have been noting they were looking to expand now that air traffic is starting to
39 dfambro : I can't see it being UA after their long process culminating in the 787/350 orders and options, and their public rejection of the 777, 748, and 380, a
40 413X3 : Why not an American carrier? What about United, to replace the 747s, and the combined company after the COA merger has money to spend I bet?
41 MCOflyer : UAL has A350's to replace 744's and 788's to replace 763ER's. I would least expect it be them. @Kflyer +1 for you as El AL did indeed cancel their or
42 Post contains images boeingfever777 : What would they need 20 more 77W's for? You need to read what I wrote and look at the Boeing O/D spread. -4 subtraction for 777. Obviously LY.
43 Post contains images Hamlet69 : The question is, what are they going to buy instead? I would be shocked if it was not 787's. OTOH, I would be absolutely floored if this were the cas
44 RayChuang : I do think part of that order may be for British Airways to start replacing their oldest 747-400's.
45 CFBFrame : Do you think Boeing just loves the noise around listing "Unidentified" orders? Airbus makes a big splash with the MOUs while Boeing says they have sal
46 kaitak : We know it's looking at the aircraft and an order wouldn't surprise me, but 20 just seems like far too much, particularly considering the political u
47 boeingfever777 : Boeing does not disclose UFO until the carrier is ready to let the public know. Again Boeing will not disclose until the buyer is ready. Doubtful bei
48 BlueSky1976 : He's not the only one. I have a problem with him too. He's Airbus basher - nothing more, nothing less. More than likely on Boeing's payroll, too. Whe
49 PITrules : Um you need to provide a little more than an unhappy blue moon. While I don't have a first hand account to this order (I doubt you do as well), there
50 PITrules : carriers that have a need for such an order. As far as US carriers, FedEx has the cash, needs, and business plan for such an order. UPS, as laggard as
51 PITrules : sorry for the split post, but the forum seems to have issues with the phrase "(perhaps 'less than' 5)"
52 Flying-Tiger : FedEx for 4 as just disclosed in their SEC filing, the other 16? Who is selling its two B777Fs? Air France again?
53 EK413 : Transaero Airlines... EK413
54 SSTsomeday : Plus the merger apparently is going to get some serious competition scrutiny from the government. moreso than DL/NW was subjected to.
55 CHRISBA777ER : Who on here has ever said the 777 is dead? Dont be daft. Nobody on here has said that. There have been a few saying that the A350 will go on to domin
56 WINGS : Certain members of the 777 family are already dead with some close to it. Would be interesting to know the breakdown of the order. 772 - Dead 77E - A
57 atcsundevil : I personally can't see an order from UA or CO until the merger is final -- successful or not -- but only until there is an end. If it does go through,
58 cysafan : It must be a very fast expanding unknown Startup carrier or maybe IFLC or someone else?
59 KFlyer : @WINGS I certainly agree. No other model than W or F has a future. But I do not think it is fair to say 777 family is dead just because three older mo
60 RJ111 : If CO take the issue of efficiency very seriously, why would they drop the A350 order? Nobody in their right mind thinks the 777 is dead, but that do
61 A342 : Very unlikely. They're currently buying more than a dozen used 772ERs and 744s...
62 Burkhard : Such a big order, not announced by the airline itself, points to the Near East region. It it were UA or BA, not way not to have it public the first da
63 scouseflyer : This is substantional order so we're talking about multi billions of dollars - I'm going to go for EK, EY or QR but does anyone else remember how EK u
64 Post contains images robbie86 : It's SK that made the order...
65 rheinwaldner : Congratulations to the 777! It will live on for many years! Too young to die now. It is the second most modern widebody in service. IMO there was neve
66 na : I think the highest chance is its a major 777 customer who is contemplating replacing early-builts, like SQ, AF, EK, SV, ANA, ... Sure, as replacement
67 iliribdl : How about DL converting their 787 orders to 777?
68 OldAeroGuy : Replace all the remaining 744's and provide a little growth?
69 Stitch : Their Chairman last month said they needed "more than 16 widebodies" which many believe meant EK would both firm their outstanding MoU with Airbus fo
70 Post contains images fxramper : The crew bus was a buzz in Memphis this week! -more 777(s) -757 feeder ops out of CDG soon (maybe a SIBA, maybe just line bid) -777 to CDG in Sept. -7
71 A342 : But no additional MD-11/A300/A310 conversions, I suppose? What about the MD-10s, how long are those going to remain in service?
72 na : Fedex, why not? More MD-11s are unlikely at least in larger numbers, the MD-10s are very old, they´ve been snapping up 777Fs rejected by AF, so appar
73 Post contains images EA772LR : Nobody is going to order 20 77Ws as 'interim' lift. That's an awfully expensive purchase to just have for less than a decade. You have to remember th
74 Delimit : I rather doubt Delta will be placing any aircraft orders anytime soon. They're engaged in paying down debt, not taking on additional. I say Cubana.
75 ER757 : How about China - order split between their various carriers like they did with the 787 etc?
76 Flying-Tiger : Take a look on post 52 - it clearly states that FedEx has ordered or will order another 4 new B777Fs. Plus another 2 B777Fs from another operator, I
77 Post contains images A342 : Sometimes the easiest thoughts don't make it to the brain, at least not to mine! Yes, one or more Chinese airlines could be a very good possibility.
78 Stitch : China likes to announce during State Visits. Is their President coming to the US in the next few weeks or months? I do not believe President Obama is
79 NicoEDDF : Those orders are NOT for LH Cargo. Now begins the time where LH Cargo can earn serious money with the aircraft being out of depreciation. (If I am wro
80 Post contains images iliribdl : It wouldn't be an order, just a conversion of the 787 order which NW made (18, plus option for 50 more) into 777. They still wouldn't start taking th
81 Post contains images Jacobin777 : Having a strong bias towards one particular manufacturer doesn't mean one's a "basher-nothing more, nothing less" of a competing manufacturer. In fac
82 Post contains images Hamlet69 : Announce, yes. But they don't wait for such visits to sign. So yes, one or more Chinese airlines are also certainly a possibility. OTOH, at this point
83 Post contains images Hamlet69 : LOL! So the minute I type that, this pops up: 13-Apr-2010 Unidentified Customer(s) 777-300ER 12 30-Apr-2010 Unidentified Customer(s) 777-300ER 18 30-
84 Post contains images Hamlet69 : After thinking about this, I'm not so sure it's AF. That would leave them with a single 777F. Would AF want to only run 1 bird? My guess would be eit
85 PlanesNTrains : I understand your point, and you are probably correct. So if a carrier needs a 77W-sized plane starting in 2014 (for example), and they aren't going
86 Stitch : Soldier on with your current fleet? A number of carriers have done so while they wait for delayed A380s and 787s.
87 LAXDESI : Could it be Thai for the order of 18 773ER? It would be a 1:1 replacement for its 747s. Has Thai put its leased 773ER (from 9w) in service yet?
88 PlanesNTrains : I guess that's the option. -Dave
89 airbazar : That's my guess too. DL!
90 Post contains images DiverDave : Hmmm. Let me go check wikipedia. David
91 fxramper : I posted news a month ago that FX is taking more 77F from AF. FX has funds to commit to more a/c, but are waiting on Congress to rule on RLA sometime
92 A342 : I believe those comments were aimed mainly at the 772ER, not so much at the 77W...just my two cents.
93 Post contains images RJ111 : What you can conclude from my statement is that these people are not in their right mind.
94 Post contains images Jacobin777 : While I do agree with you for the most part, I've seen comments of...ie.. "B77W "killed" by the -1000", "B77L "killed" by the -900R."...etc......obvi
95 atcsundevil : I would see UA/CO dropping the A350 order because they'll already have loads of 787s, which I think are pretty efficient too, and so do a lot of peop
96 LAXDESI : Possible. 789, though more efficient, will be a slight drop in capacity as a replacement for 772E. In 9-abreast Y seating, B789 in current CO 772E co
97 A342 : UA already made the remarkable decision to order the A350-900 as a replacement for their 744s. What makes you think they'll downsize even more??? The
98 SSTsomeday : Would somebody explain to me again the appeal of secret orders to operators ? I realize that some orders are for private companies and individuals so
99 Post contains links boeingfever777 : Yes I do but I would not disclose that being the member posts on here regularly. Eitherway it's public knowledge they converted (4) options and (2) f
100 Stitch : Neither Boeing nor Airbus lists an order until a valid and binding sales contract has been signed, so all the financing and approvals would need to b
101 deltal1011man : Wouldn't be a convert because Boeing would should -18 on the 787. LMAO.
102 SSTsomeday : So is there any tangible reason for the initial secrecy besides publicity and hype? Does postponement of announcing the buyer sell more A/C or seats?
103 ER757 : I think Hamlet gave us a pretty good hint here. I am not sure if he is privvy to the info and can't say (confidentiality agreements etc) but he's alw
104 Post contains images Hamlet69 : No question FX has the funds! And once again, I'm certainly not saying they aren't coming from AF. However, I am merely pointing out that there are o
105 Post contains images LAXDESI : Looks like you incorrectly attributed the above comments to me. This was a post by A342 in reply 97.
106 ojas : I think EK is expected to announce a huge B777 order at Farnborough this July. Probably these unknown orders would be for them. (But you may want to
107 Post contains images iliribdl : You're right. Didn't think about that.
108 CFBFrame : Boeing does not announce until financing is complete and the sale is confirmed. An airline may say they've made a purchase but Boeing will not confir
109 kanban : as of this morning Reuters is reporting 4 of the a/c are Fedex freighters..
110 vietcolin : Vietnam Airlines currently has the fleet consist of 10 B772...If they order some more 777W, that's will be interesting to fill the need for 787 interi
111 Stitch : VN already has the A350-900 on order to replace the 777-200ERs and also the A380-800 for growth, so I don't see them needing 77Ws.
112 PM : VN have not ordered the A380.
113 ikramerica : You can believe that, but the comments were clearly directed at the 77W by many people. The A350-1000 makes the 77W not worth buying is what is espou
114 frmrCapCadet : Public disclosure may require that significant sales be reported, otherwise insiders selling or buy shares might be considered improperly advantaged.
115 fxramper : See below.
116 Stitch : They're a state owned airline and the state has signed an agreement with France to order six A380-800s so in my book, that's a "done deal" and theref
117 SSTsomeday : Hmmm. Who's right?
118 Post contains images airbazar : That would happen after the deal is confirmed only otherwise it would be too obvious and defeat the the purpose for keeping it "unidentified"
119 deltal1011man : Dont see how Boeing could play that one off because if they are switched then the deal is done and they would have to report -18 787s. They only way
120 jfk777 : Singapore Airlines has 19 777-300ER's plus 21 options. They need to replace the last 744's in their fleet and early 777-200ER's. They could be teh mys
121 Stitch : SQ has leased A330-300s coming to replace their 777-200ERs until they receive their 787-9s and A350-900s. They also have the remaining A380-800s comin
122 CFBFrame : We're saying the same thing. I can say that a deal has been made with someone but I won't say who that someone is until I know the a/c are paid for.
123 kanban : Boeing does not pad the books with incomplete orders. orders listed as unidentified are those where for some reason the customer does not want to go
124 boeingfever777 : Wondering if some of the UFO are DL canceling NW 787's in exchange for more 777's?
125 Stitch : You'd have seen a corresponding cancellation of 787s.
126 Post contains images kgaiflyer : Not such a bad idea, really. I sense a thread coming.
127 JAAlbert : I imagine you'd get a sizeable discount for ordering 777 in bulk. But at what, $250 million a plane, that's a $5 billion dollar order. (or is my math
128 zvezda : Sooner or later, SQ will order either 777Fs or 747-8Fs to replace their 747-400Fs. There is still a small chance that SQ might order more 777-300ERs,
129 PM : It seems to be fairly widely accepted that the 4 x 777F are for FedEx so that would just leave a number of 777-300ERs for SQ. (If, indeed, it is them
130 pink77W : So when will we know for sure? Or is there no set date thx
131 Stitch : When the customer is ready to announce, so shall Boeing.
132 affirmative : LH canceling 748i and finally taking some 77Ws on board.. Which will make the 3(?) VIPs the only produced 748is.. But I could probably put some money
133 BMI727 : What happened to the Korean order?
134 Stitch : Again, we'd have seen a corresponding reduction in the number of 747-8's on order, which we did not. Not to mention LH placed an A340-600 order withi
135 mham001 : Not only that, but the first LH plane is already under construction.
136 Stitch : I believe the 747-8 currently starting assembly is going to a VIP customer, but yes, soon enough LH's first plane will start production. Not to menti
137 kanban : I believe the 747-8 currently starting assembly is going to a VIP customer, but yes, soon enough LH's first plane will start production. [/quote] make
138 airbazar : I agree however if there was to be a cancelation it would be Boeing canceling it and not the airlines. The airlines have nothing to lose, they are ge
139 DAL767400ER : Given their history in doing the outfitting on older 747s, A340s etc for the Big Wigs in the Middle East, Lufthansa Technik in HAM is probably a safe
140 seabosdca : Unfortunately, when the first five planes are flying, I expect we will still be hearing they are going to cancel the other 15. Lufthansa is a unique
141 vietcolin : Does anyone know if we sign LOI for 777W now, when the first will be arriving?
142 Stitch : SV's first two 77Ws from their recent order arrive in 2011, so I would think that's a good ballpark.
143 vietcolin : My god, I don't know how long did they prepare for the order and delivery in 2011... surely 777W beat out Dreamliner in term of providing airliner fl
144 Burkhard : For the moment, yes. Only beaten by the aircraft that has a 19% better CASM according to SQ, which operates the 77W AND the A380.
145 Ronaldo747 : Not only that, LH was looking at some parts and has accepted it. In addition, LH might execise some options of the 748i in a medium term. The predict
146 NWA330nut : I was just reading one of the other threads and it got me thinking, Would SA order some? I don't think they are getting the A380, and I would think th
147 YVRLTN : Do BR have any outstanding B77W options? They still have 744 pax and F's which will need replacing (and some MD11's left too??). Theres another thread
148 A342 : SA's A343s and A346s are very new. They placed the order in 2002 I think and received the first one in 2003, but correct me if I'm wrong. Their older
149 kaitak : Emirates is announcing its results tomorrow, at 11.45am local (8.45am UK time/9.45 CET). A very good financial result is expected and it's quite possi
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