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Lufthansa And Boeing To Celebrate "Golden Wedding"  
User currently offlinecolumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7073 posts, RR: 4
Posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 24931 times:

This saturday Boeing and Lufthansa will celebrate their 50 years of cooperation. On May 2nd 1960 the first Boeing 707 has landed in Hamburg-Fuhlsbüttel Airport.

To celebrate this event LH and Boeing will have a huge celebration in Hamburg among the guests will be LH CEO Wolfgang Mayrhuber as well as Boeing CEO James McNerney. It was rumored that Boeing will bring a 747-8 to this event but there seems to be problems and the 747-8 is not coming. LH will show two 747-400s at this event as well as 707 painted in LH´s old 1970s livery. A picture can be found here:

http://www.pic-upload.de/view-534665...7-400---D-ABOB---PICT0017.jpg.html

It is the 707 painted in Hamburg Airport colors but especially for this event it got stickers of the old LH livery.

The biggest anniversary gift would be a new Boeing order to be announced. Let´s see, I have high hopes for that as McNerney is extra coming to this event and LH was not the biggest Boeing customer over the last 10 years.


It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
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User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4398 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 24894 times:

Airbus could have the LH A380 pass by, but don't spoil other peoples party.

LH over the years was one of the biggest costumors of Boeing, and I'm sure to still see many aircraft from B to come.


User currently offlinefrigatebird From Netherlands, joined Jun 2008, 1622 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 24479 times:

Quoting columba (Thread starter):
The biggest anniversary gift would be a new Boeing order to be announced. Let´s see, I have high hopes for that as McNerney is extra coming to this event and LH was not the biggest Boeing customer over the last 10 years.

Firming up options for the 748i please... and about the same number of additional options   



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User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 24404 times:

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 2):
Firming up options for the 748i please... and about the same number of additional options

IMHO a 787 order is more likely. I would not be surprised if LH end up ordering both the 787 and a350 (789/a359/a3510). Or... one of the UFO 777 orders does indeed wind up to be for LH Cargo... who knows...



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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10748 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 24383 times:

Quoting frigatebird (Reply 2):

Firming up options for the 748i please... and about the same number of additional options   

That would indeed be wonderful.
748Fs for LH Cargo?
If McNerney is coming, there´ll be something to tell.


User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4161 posts, RR: 36
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 24357 times:

Quoting na (Reply 4):
If McNerney is coming, there´ll be something to tell.

What about: "Dear Lufthansa, thanks for pushing us into building the B737, our most successful airliner to date..And thanks for helping us to launch the B748I."

It doen´t necessarily have to be a new order...



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User currently offlinecolumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7073 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 24174 times:

Quoting Flying-Tiger (Reply 5):
It doen´t necessarily have to be a new order...

You are right but you can still hope though  .....LH has pushed the 787/A350 decision for years now it got be coming someday and this seems to be the perfect event.

McNerney and Mayrhuber standing next to LH 707 and 747 announcing a new order...how cool would that be.

A few thoughts on the possibilty of a LH 787 order:

LH delayed the decision for years now (it was supposed to be announced in 2006)

The 787 has won the internal RFP against the A350 non XWB

With the beginning retirement of the 737 the 747-8 will be the only Boeing in all Airbus mainline fleet, something LH always wanted to avoid

The A340-300 is due for retirement in 5 years, if the A350 is ready by then is not certain, especially since all major aircraft programms are delayed (787, 747-8, A400M, A380), the 787-9 could replace the A343

Engine commonaltiy with the 747-8I

If not for LH the 787 could also be used for OS, LX or SN



It will forever be a McDonnell Douglas MD 80 , Boeing MD 80 sounds so wrong
User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10748 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 24091 times:

787 would be very surprising.

Quoting columba (Reply 6):
If not for LH the 787 could also be used for OS, LX or SN

Thats true, especially in the case of OS, whose odd longhaul fleet (772, 763) doesnt fit into LHs network ar all.

Quoting columba (Reply 6):
The A340-300 is due for retirement in 5 years

The very oldest frames yes, but most will be able to fly for another 10 years easily.


User currently onlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2728 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 23990 times:

Quoting Burkhard (Reply 1):
Airbus could have the LH A380 pass by, but don't spoil other peoples party.

Yes, they are currently making a lot of test flights with MSN 038, almost every day. But I doubt they would consider doing something like this. As you say, it would be very impolite.


User currently offlinenewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 22117 times:

Quoting columba (Thread starter):
"Golden Wedding"

I wonder if it's followed by a golden shower?



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineoverloaduk From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2009, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 21935 times:

Quoting newark777 (Reply 9):
I wonder if it's followed by a golden shower?

There is always one! 


User currently offlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 3124 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 21334 times:

Golden Wedding? It's as if LH went with Boeing but during their matrimony it cheated by going Airbus.

Anyways, I sure hope this means an order for the 787 or more 748I.



"You haven't seen a tree until you've seen its shadow from the sky."
User currently offlineB6A322 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 19471 times:

Would it be too much to ask if LH started to replace their A330 and A340 fleet with 748i's and 749's?


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User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21534 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks ago) and read 19365 times:

Quoting B6A322 (Reply 12):
Would it be too much to ask if LH started to replace their A330 and A340 fleet with 748i's and 749's?

Yes. That would be too much.

What's a 749?



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User currently offlineLarshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks ago) and read 19187 times:

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 13):
What's a 749?

A Lockheed Constellation 
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User currently offlineB6A322 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 4 months 4 weeks ago) and read 19142 times:

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 13):
Yes. That would be too much.

Aww, shucks.  
Quoting ikramerica (Reply 13):
What's a 749?

**789. At least my typo wasn't as bad as the one on wall street yesterday 



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User currently onlineallegro From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 236 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 17334 times:

How about the launching of a new 737 replacement? Seeing as LH launched the first ...

Too early for Boeing, I think ... but would be cool  



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User currently offlineaviasian From Singapore, joined Jan 2001, 1486 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 16223 times:

The one time that Lufthansa was not pleased with Boeing was when the latter refused to extend the MD-11F production line ... but every wedding has its little quarrels - nothing that a tender pillow-talk cannot handle.

Lufthansa has indeed been a very important customer for Boeing. Besides launching the B737 and B747-8 Intercontinental, it was also an early B747-200, B747-200F and a very important B727-200 customer.

Perhaps conspicuously absent from Lufthansa's fleet is the B757, B767 (albeit most briefly) and B777 ... perhaps that was when Lufthansa switched bed-partners and was pillow-talking with Airbus.

Then again, it is understandable that an airline as huge as Lufthansa needs to maintain two bedrooms with the two most important airframe manufacturers in the world.

Congratulations Lufthansa ... and Boeing. Hope to see a significant new baby in this half-century old marriage. Happy Golden Anniversary.

KC Sim


User currently offlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8412 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 15314 times:

Quoting aviasian (Reply 17):
Perhaps conspicuously absent from Lufthansa's fleet is the B757, B767 (albeit most briefly) and B777 ... perhaps that was when Lufthansa switched bed-partners and was pillow-talking with Airbus.

However, Condor while owned by Lufthansa, purchased and still operates 757's and 767's. Like Iberia, the only Boeing jet that Lufthansa has never bought and never operated is the 777.


User currently offlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 3124 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 14985 times:

Quoting airbazar (Reply 18):
Like Iberia, the only Boeing jet that Lufthansa has never bought and never operated is the 777.

And the 717  



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User currently offlineviscount630 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 14000 times:
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LH's association with Boeing is actually longer than that. Didn't the pre-war Lufthansa also operate a 247 briefly??   


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User currently offlineDIJKKIJK From France, joined Jul 2003, 1803 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 12207 times:

Quoting airbazar (Reply 18):
However, Condor while owned by Lufthansa, purchased and still operates 757's and 767's. Like Iberia, the only Boeing jet that Lufthansa has never bought and never operated is the 777.

Isn't AeroLogic owned by LH? They fly the 777F


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So with the notable exception of the 717, LH and its subsidaries have flown all the Boeing models.



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User currently offlineLHPII From Croatia, joined May 2009, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 11395 times:

Quoting na (Reply 4):
If McNerney is coming, there
[quote=airbazar,reply=18]Lufthansa has never bought and never operated is the 777

Unfortunatelly, the right aircraft at wrong time. When LH was replacing DC-10s T7 wasn't available yet, so Lh had to decide between MD-11 and A340-200/300 and that wasn't hard decision to make.
When Airbus came out with an offer for A340-600, again B77E wasn't available on the markt.

Quoting DIJKKIJK (Reply 21):
Isn't AeroLogic owned by LH?

Partly owned with DHL. 50%


User currently offlinelufthansi From Germany, joined May 2002, 454 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 11040 times:

Spotters be prepared for some special stickers applied on our Jumbos...


Life starts at take-off!
User currently onlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2728 posts, RR: 25
Reply 24, posted (4 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 9967 times:

Quoting lufthansi (Reply 23):
Spotters be prepared for some special stickers applied on our Jumbos...

The spotters of the Frankfurt Aviation Forum were the first:
http://fraaviation.forumsfree.de/mov...-fotos-f3/08052010-t3093.htm#12907


25 Post contains images columba : The 747-8 Sticker is fading out, hopefully that means not the end of the partnership
26 MadameConcorde : I wish I could have been at FRA to see this today. I spent many hours there just a couple of days back and did the FRAport airport bus tour during my
27 N14AZ : That's exactly what I thought as well. Even the 737 is fading out to grey. I hope you enjoyed your time in FRA. Just for the records: the 707 is in H
28 Post contains images MadameConcorde : I have seen some very interesting action at Frankfurt airport the other day. I should have looked closer at the first post. So it is the Hamburg spot
29 Post contains images columba : No, this is Boeing/Lufthansa event, no need to spoil the party for the guests No, Boeing did not get the papers needed for an ocean crossing.
30 aviasian : Does anyone know if D-ABVH will operate any flight with that big 50 YEARS sticker? I am of course hoping that it operates to Singapore!!! KC Sim Singa
31 Post contains images Ronaldo747 : So, I'm still waiting for the big announcement of the day
32 N14AZ : Well, if at all it'll be tomorrow, right? Boeing's CEO has not yet arrived in HAM.
33 Ronaldo747 : Sure? A Boeing BBJ with McNerney should has landed at HAM yesterday. We'll see ...
34 Post contains links N14AZ : You are right. You can see N836BA it in the first picture next to the LH B 707. Note: all the Airbus CJs have been removed from LH Technik's apron -
35 columba : I guess there will be something, I don´t think the CEO of a company like Boeing has the time to spend 3 days abroad just for a "family day"
36 Post contains images N14AZ : Ever heard of the Reeperbahn?
37 Post contains links Cassi : That is an understatement: LH is practically an Airbus shop now (for obvious reasons). Only 21 planes ordered in 10 years from the biggest airline in
38 airbazar : That's utter non-sense. The 777 and the 737NG came out too little to late to join the LH fleet. That is the only reason LH has only ordered 21 planes
39 Ronaldo747 : Sorry, thats bs. Think about the standing of EADS/Airbus in Europe, their locations and their impact for the european taxpayers. And then you can tal
40 Post contains images CPH-R : Still the only place I have been offered a menage-a-trois by two girls
41 seabosdca : LH is way better run than that. They will buy whichever product meets their needs most effectively. They chose both the 747-8 and the A380 because th
42 Post contains links and images N14AZ : A fresh picture has been uploaded into the database: View Large View MediumPhoto © Axel J.
43 N14AZ : N836BA has left HAM. I assume with all the managers. So, no annoucement. Maybe they discussed something which will announced during a later stage.
44 oldeuropean : The whole meeting was a PR-event, and nothing more. Everyone, who has expected any orders has overestimated this celebration. Axel
45 A390 : This may have been a PR stunt. However I'm sure that when the CEO of Lufthansa and Boeing get together they discuss issues that get released in press
46 Burkhard : LH does not need any orders currently, they need to sort out the problems of their new babies.
47 Breiz : This may have been a PR stunt. However I'm sure that when the CEO of Lufthansa and Boeing get together they discuss issues that get released in press
48 columba : That is true, but at that time the decision was only the TA11 (project name of the A340) and the MD 11. Boeing at nothing to offer at that moment.
49 A390 : Is anyone willing to speculate on what the two CEO's discussed?
50 Post contains images IFixPlanes : But this is NOT in the near future
51 Post contains links and images robffm2 : On the Lufthansa Group website there is now some extensive coverage of the event: http://konzern.lufthansa.com/en/themen/boeing.html Also there is a
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