Qantas744ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1258 posts, RR: 4 Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 15523 times:
No active 744s in the fleet left in the old livery, besides one or two retired aircraft in the desert.
VC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2476 posts, RR: 9 Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 15445 times:
Can those retired 747's in the dessert be reactivated?
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JBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2281 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 15392 times:
Retired means the aircraft is no longer part of United's fleet. It could be reactivated, yes, if someone else buys the aircraft assuming it is airworthy.
Now if it's stored, on the other hand, then yes it could be reactivated by United if they need the aircraft.
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ua777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 13 Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 14496 times:
Quoting 28L28L (Reply 4): Was 106UA painted in the current scheme, or retired in the old one?
Are all stored, not retired though N185UA and N192UA have been stored for over 5 years, the former for almost 10 years now. The majority of the other stored were delivered in '96 and '97
ua777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 13 Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 14310 times:
Just got an e-mail saying that N194UA is at Kimhae Int'l in S. Korea undergoing mx @ Korean Air Tech Center. Unconfirmed at this point. Airfleets has it stored since 08/09.
Max Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 3326 posts, RR: 19 Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 14172 times:
So, can anyone photo shop us a UAL 744 in the new CAL logo scheme ? !
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ua777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 13 Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 13150 times:
Confirmed that N194UA flew from Socal Logistics to Guam on the 26th of April.
Anyone familiar with UA ops know if this is proofing/mx to reenter service or if they're getting ready to give this bird off?
ua777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 13 Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 11139 times:
Quoting Conti764 (Reply 11): On a side note: I assume United is going to halt all the repaints untill the merger with CO is fully approved?
I'm still putting money on an aircraft from each airline's fleet getting the new c/s to physically show that unity in the coming weeks. Pictures do the merger no justice, believe me.
Qantas744ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1258 posts, RR: 4 Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 10945 times:
Quoting ua777222 (Reply 9): Confirmed that N194UA flew from Socal Logistics to Guam on the 26th of April.
Anyone familiar with UA ops know if this is proofing/mx to reenter service or if they're getting ready to give this bird off?
Getting the new cabin and coming back into service!
deltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 8629 posts, RR: 8 Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 8997 times:
Quoting ua777222 (Reply 12): I'm still putting money on an aircraft from each airline's fleet getting the new c/s to physically show that unity in the coming weeks. Pictures do the merger no justice, believe me.
They wont do anything till the merger is approved by the stock holders. they *may* do a paint freeze but other than that they will do biz just as if there was no merger, because the stcok holders may not go along with it.
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RoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8791 posts, RR: 51 Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 8771 times:
Quoting ua777222 (Reply 7): Just got an e-mail saying that N194UA is at Kimhae Int'l in S. Korea undergoing mx @ Korean Air Tech Center. Unconfirmed at this point. Airfleets has it stored since 08/09.
Yes United wil be bringing back at least one 747 out of the desert to support summer flying.
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VC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2476 posts, RR: 9 Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5977 times:
A Continental Elite representative said to me while booking a flight and chatting about the merger: "our new flat beds in Business First are better than United's First Class seat and much better than United's Business lie flat's" I told her as wonderful as CO is, it will be good to have 4 classes like on the United 747. She said "Sir, the 747 is a very old airplane and you would prefer a 777". I just said "really, thank you"
so I guess a 747 that was stored and being made fly worthy is a bad thing. Perhaps at CO this must be very difficult emotionally. But doesent this mean that UCO will have about 25 747's for a number of years before they finalize a replacement?
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bottie From Belgium, joined May 2004, 281 posts, RR: 9 Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4859 times:
Quoting ua777222 (Reply 6):
Are all stored, not retired though N185UA and N192UA have been stored for over 5 years, the former for almost 10 years now. The majority of the other stored were delivered in '96 and '97
AADC10 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 1864 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2512 times:
Quoting VC10er (Reply 17): I told her as wonderful as CO is, it will be good to have 4 classes like on the United 747. She said "Sir, the 747 is a very old airplane and you would prefer a 777"
As far as I am concerned, the 744 is significantly worse in Y than the 772. The seats are narrower in the 744 (17.2" vs 18") and it lacks seatback video. It is great in C or F but I greatly prefer the 772 in Y. The 744s are old but UA's oldest planes are the 757s. Like any other plane, if the interiors are refurbished the could be just as up to date and comfortable as a brand new plane but the UA 744s are on their way out. I miss the old 9 abreast 747s. 10 abreast makes it undesirable to fly in.
ORDnHKG From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 187 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2428 times:
Quoting jetfuel (Reply 13): UA 744 have been through 3 colour schemes so with the merger this will be the 4th scheme
Not all of them are, pay attention to the delivery dates of UA's 744, it spreads from 1989 to 2000, the grey and blue livery already in place by 1998. Therefore, at least 10 of those only been thru 2 liveries.
Quoting AADC10 (Reply 19): As far as I am concerned, the 744 is significantly worse in Y than the 772. The seats are narrower in the 744 (17.2" vs 18") and it lacks seatback video.
But don't forget CO's 777 are lack of E+, 31" of legroom flying EWR-HKG is not fun either, even though it has PTV.
ua777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 13 Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2191 times:
Quoting AADC10 (Reply 19): if the interiors are refurbished the could be just as up to date and comfortable as a brand new plane but the UA 744s are on their way out.
IIRC,UA is proofing a new leather Y product.
It's entire domestic first F is getting revamped with leather (same seat, new covering), and while the product itself is dated, the added leather does improve the seat comfort immensely.
I like the new Y product with AVOID, but don't like the idea of 3-3-3 in the T7s.
FX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 5 Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2118 times:
Quoting ORDnHKG (Reply 20): Quoting jetfuel (Reply 13):
UA 744 have been through 3 colour schemes so with the merger this will be the 4th scheme
Not all of them are, pay attention to the delivery dates of UA's 744, it spreads from 1989 to 2000, the grey and blue livery already in place by 1998. Therefore, at least 10 of those only been thru 2 liveries.
If I remember right the Blue/Grey UA livery came out in 1992 or 1993 so I'd have to assume that most of them were actually delivered in Blue/Grey and not the old Red/Orange/Blue.
Quoting ua777222 (Reply 9): Confirmed that N194UA flew from Socal Logistics to Guam on the 26th of April.
Yup, I gave them their clearance to Korea, now I didn't know it would go back to UA at the time but it was still nice to just see it leave VCV.
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