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Air Asia X And No PTVs?  
User currently offlineCaliAtenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1582 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8303 times:

Whats up with this? I can understand Air Asia not having them, but Air Asia X is a long haul carrier...wouldnt it make sense to have PTVs?

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User currently offline1stfl94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 1455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 8285 times:

They've decided to remove them as they don't think they need them to convince people to fly them. Also I think they're going to try bringing on portable units that they can charge for.

User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12595 posts, RR: 34
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8175 times:

Quoting 1stfl94 (Reply 1):
They've decided to remove them as they don't think they need them to convince people to fly them. Also I think they're going to try bringing on portable units that they can charge for.

Their first A330 (ex-EI) and A340 (ex-AC, I think) didn't have them, but I thought the newly delivered 333s have them; now, if they remove them, doesn't that mean having to strip out the old seats and add new ones? Doesn't the cost of this outweigh the benefit?


User currently offline1stfl94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 1455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8103 times:

They're replacing the seats on the new A330s as well because of negative customer feedback (they were non reclining, a bit like Ryanair's). This will also mean removing the PTVs and introduction of flat bed business class (there was another thread on this a few weeks ago)

User currently offlinegilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7914 times:

Two links you might find useful:

AirAsia X Newly Refurbished A340... (by gilesdavies Apr 25 2010 in Aviation Polls)

http://blog.airasia.com/index.php/fi...y-new-seats-for-airasia-x-includin


User currently offlinegffgold From Indonesia, joined Feb 2007, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7675 times:

Don't forget that it was only a year or two ago that KL pulled the 747 combis from the KUL-AMS route and none of them had PTVs in Y.

User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19259 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7541 times:

When I flew STN-KUL-STN a couple years ago, the ex-AC 343s had their seat-back screens covered and couldn't be used. However, portable, hand-held entertainment systems were available for rent - and, from my walking around, it seemed a lot of people rented them.


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User currently offline1stfl94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 1455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 7465 times:

The AC 343s never had screens, the seats had a hole for screens (they're more or less the same as the BA Y seats) but AC never had personal IFE fitted in Y on those aircraft.

User currently offlineEVAAIRBR076 From Netherlands, joined May 2009, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7229 times:

Whats up with this? I can understand Air Asia not having them, but Air Asia X is a long haul carrier...wouldnt it make sense to have PTVs?

There are so many long haul carriers who dont have ptv's. The carriers i fly a lot like KL (they just recently installed PTV's in a few of their 747), BR, CI on their 747 (at least to AMS). I find it very boring when they dont have it on long flights, it makes time go a littlebit faster. I know there are more important things in this world then ptv's, but these days almost every long haul carrier have them installed.


User currently offlineOzzietukker From Netherlands, joined May 2007, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7078 times:

While I do like PTV in an aircraft, it is actually only because of the moving map.

Nowadays many people, myself included, have the likes of an Ipod so you can watch and listen to the content you want rather then what is shown on the PTV / Main Screen.
Air Asia have stated that because of this there is no need to invest further in a PTV system, apart from the cost of maintaining and building the system in the aircraft you have to pay royalty's to the entertainment industrie. By renting out portable DVD players you able to control the costs and actually make profit.

I will not influence my decision to fly or not fly Air Asia, I do fly with them, but only with the cheapest tickets available, I will never fly with Air Asia if the tickets are not booked in some sort of promotion. If you look at the normal prices, full service carriers are not far behind, or even cheaper.


User currently offlineCaliAtenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1582 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 6813 times:

Quoting EVAAIRBR076 (Reply 8):

There are so many long haul carriers who dont have ptv's. The carriers i fly a lot like KL (they just recently installed PTV's in a few of their 747), BR, CI on their 747 (at least to AMS). I find it very boring when they dont have it on long flights, it makes time go a littlebit faster. I know there are more important things in this world then ptv's, but these days almost every long haul carrier have them installed.

i know the LH 747s still dont have PTVs and MH's 330s dont as well. Personally i dont know how i can survive without one..well i do always manage to have a good book or magazine with me and i cant cram everything onto my ipod so its nice to have a good PTV onboard.


User currently offlineInitious From Singapore, joined Dec 2008, 1067 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5882 times:

Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 10):
There are so many long haul carriers who dont have ptv's. The carriers i fly a lot like KL (they just recently installed PTV's in a few of their 747), BR, CI on their 747 (at least to AMS). I find it very boring when they dont have it on long flights, it makes time go a littlebit faster. I know there are more important things in this world then ptv's, but these days almost every long haul carrier have them installed.

Add TG (747s) and lots of other carriers into that list too. Personally I think that is one of the factors that I'd consider when choosing a carrier. However, does D7 provide the portable units free for their premium customers?



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User currently offlineskyhigh From Australia, joined Nov 2005, 236 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4107 times:

Lets not forge that D7 is at heart a LCC! Their airfares from here in Australia can be extremely cheap. A few movies or a $600 saving..... I know what many would choose

User currently offlineCaliAtenza From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1582 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3826 times:

Quoting Initious (Reply 11):

Add TG (747s) and lots of other carriers into that list too. Personally I think that is one of the factors that I'd consider when choosing a carrier. However, does D7 provide the portable units free for their premium customers?

yeah price and PTVs are my top 2 factors. Why do you think i love EK so much after just 1 trip with them?? The ICE system is a big reason  . Yeah i forgot about TG's 747s...i still remember flying one back in 2005...i couldnt take it lol. Im so used to PTVs that i get antsy and restless when i dont have one lol.


User currently offlineEVAAIRBR076 From Netherlands, joined May 2009, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 3749 times:

Hhehe funny you people brought up more airlines without PTV's. I only wanted to mentoin the ones i experienced to avoid mistakes. Yes i think for me it is also a good reason to fly with an airlines besides the price. Now i stay in Thailand for the moment and i flew with my favorite ailine BR. This time for the first time economy class, normally i fly evergreen deluxe (what i think is a great class). Economy with BR doesnt have PTV's, so you people could understand that my flight took ages (beside that it is already a hell of a flight, 11 hours), lucky the plane was half full and i had 4 chairs in a row for myself, so i had a good sleep. This was the first time that i had to ask the stewardess, where we were half way the flight. I really had no idea where we were. And this subject also brings me to a question, how airlines deside what best product they put on witch route? I mean every airline has older airplanes, different types, different cabin layout, ptv'or not. For example BR and CI have a very good payload on AMS but they not really update their product, do they just dont care or are there other reasons for this.( the reason i mention BR and CI is because that is only the ones a have experience with). as a airline fan aswel as passenger i see this as a lack off service (or give it another name). BR switchted from a 747 to a 777 for a while but changed it back to a 747. The 777 was new and had nice cabin, the 747 are old and i know some are getting upgraded to newer standard, but for some reason not the combi's. Also for CI, having a long history at AMS doesnt really try much to upgrade the cabin. i know this what i mention is not so important but it are just some questions what comes up sometimes in my aviation head.

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