cessna2 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 277 posts, RR: 2 Posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4499 times:
Browsing through some job oppurtunities on Frontiers website and I was a little shocked when i saw a recently posted job opening (May 6th) for a city manager at RDU. At this point Midwest serves MKE from RDU but uses its codeshare with AA to handle all ground operations. Anyone know if RDU is getting Frontier service in the future?
erj170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6636 posts, RR: 19 Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4469 times:
Quoting cessna2 (Thread starter): Anyone know if RDU is getting Frontier service in the future?
Technically, it already has Frontier service since Midwest and Frontier became 1 to be Frontier. But, to comment on your question.. isn't it just exciting?
cessna2 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 277 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4437 times:
Yes...I would love to see those tails coming into RDU on a regular basis second only to the yellow tails of JI. I know they are owned by the same parent company, but they are still separate subsidies...Guess i'll hold my breath...
adamblang From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 111 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4312 times:
They've announced that over the next 18 months, all Midwest aircraft are going to be repainted as Frontier. Midwest is no more, it's all being rolled into Frontier.
AirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26 Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4257 times:
Quoting cessna2 (Thread starter): Anyone know if RDU is getting Frontier service in the future?
As others have stated, since YX/F9 is now 1 airline, We Are 1, you'll begin seeing Frontier in RDU. I would be classified as an existing station (since YX does it), not a new F9 station.
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erj170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6636 posts, RR: 19 Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4237 times:
I think his main question was about the station manager position and if we will be getting additional service - a la Frontier to DEN and the likes.. that would call for a Station Manger to be at a station where they are currently being handled by another company (in this instance American)
course, I could be wrong.. but that's what I'm guessing or reading into it..
cessna2 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 277 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4182 times:
Quoting erj170 (Reply 5): I think his main question was about the station manager position and if we will be getting additional service - a la Frontier to DEN and the likes.. that would call for a Station Manger to be at a station where they are currently being handled by another company (in this instance American)
course, I could be wrong.. but that's what I'm guessing or reading into it..
Absolutely Correct... Unless you are opening a station at RDU you don't need a manager. So one would assume more flights more cities from RDU...
adamblang From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 111 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4100 times:
Quoting cessna2 (Thread starter): At this point Midwest serves MKE from RDU but uses its codeshare with AA to handle all ground operations.
The former Midwest does not have a codeshare with American and if they did it still wouldn't mean American handles Midwest on the ground. Does American have a ground handling agreement for Midwest in Raleigh?
Regardless, if there is Midwest staff in Raleigh, a Midwest staffer's replacement will be hired by Frontier and be on Frontier payroll.
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cessna2 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 277 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4016 times:
Yes AA handles Midwest's ground operations at raleigh...I believe the codeshare is with AE.
cessna2 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 277 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4004 times:
Quoting noise (Reply 9): Under what circumstances would F9 need a city manager at RDU???
Your guess is as good as mine but they have posted a job opening for one...
Womack17 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 465 posts, RR: 5 Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3952 times:
Quoting cessna2 (Reply 2): Yes...I would love to see those tails coming into RDU on a regular basis second only to the yellow tails of JI.
That would be my ultimate aviation dream come true. Anyone who knows me knows how I would be thrilled to see JI come back to life. Alas, its only a dream, but I completely agree with you. Those yellow tails hubbing at RDU again would be magical.
Quoting adamblang (Reply 7): Regardless, if there is Midwest staff in Raleigh, a Midwest staffer's replacement will be hired by Frontier and be on Frontier payroll.
That was my thought on the subject also. However. I would love to see F9 running the following routes:
adamblang From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 111 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3902 times:
Quoting cessna2 (Reply 8): I believe the codeshare is with AE.
thegreatRDU From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2278 posts, RR: 3 Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3807 times:
Quoting cessna2 (Reply 6): So one would assume more flights more cities from RDU...
Probably direct to DEN
Quoting cessna2 (Reply 8): Yes AA handles Midwest's ground operations at raleigh
Who else does Ground Handling at RDU...DAL global UA ground.....no independent companies? are they all airline subsidiaries?
cessna2 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 277 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3791 times:
Quoting adamblang (Reply 13): The American Eagle / Midwest Airlines codeshare ended February 24, 2004.
Well all I can tell you is they are using AA's gate and handled by AA's ground crew...
AirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26 Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3709 times:
Quoting mariner (Reply 16): Wouldn't that go straight up against Southwest?
Why does WN have to be a factor in everything we do? That is what I don't understand. I mean, who cares.
RDU-DEN would be a great piece for F9 to do as well as what you also suggested: RDU-MCI.
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AirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26 Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3660 times:
Quoting mariner (Reply 18): Why does DEN have to be a factor in everything Frontier does?
Ask SM that.
Quoting mariner (Reply 18): I'd rather expand the revenue bases.
As would I.... and I believe BB is doing exactly that.
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AirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26 Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3585 times:
Quoting mariner (Reply 20): But SM also said that there has to be more to Frontier than DEN.
And that has not happened until BB took over. SM has not done it. He never got a chance to anyway when F9 filed for BK.
Quoting mariner (Reply 20): It isn't about whether Southwest already serves the route - it is about whether any airline already serves the route.
But you brought WN into it. My response is: I don't care what WN does, or if they are on the route. If F9 wants to do it, they will. Let 'em. I would support it.
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Because Southwest flies the route. And if it had been another route with another airline already flying it, I would have used that airline.
It was a long held hope of mine that Frontier would start LAX-RDU as a red-eye. But Delta is going to do that, which take the gilt off that particular gingerbread.
I don't think it is such a good idea for Frontier now.
thegreatRDU From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2278 posts, RR: 3 Reply 23, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3567 times:
Quoting mariner (Reply 16): Wouldn't that go straight up against Southwest?
Not wanting to burst anyone's bubble, but I think the more obvious route is RDU-MCI.
Let United re enter the route it will do well...there is plenty of business travel and they tend to prefer legacies over WN...
ERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6636 posts, RR: 19 Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3419 times:
Quoting cessna2 (Reply 15): Well all I can tell you is they are using AA's gate and handled by AA's ground crew...
Actually, American Eagle handles the ground and gate for Midwest/Frontier at RDU. They actually use they international gate for their flights. (Besides the fact that I hate that RDU would allow an airline to use the international gates for everyday flights, but I digress...)
Quoting mariner (Reply 16): Not wanting to burst anyone's bubble, but I think the more obvious route is RDU-MCI.
I would add RDU-MCI/MSY/AUS/DEN.. simply because MSY did well for XJet.. AUS would do well with the E70.. and DEN is sorely lacking in availability (but it would need to be 2x E70 to work)
Aiming High and going far..
25 AirframeAS: Fair enough, thanks for the explanation. That made more sense. Sorry, Mariner.
26 mariner: No rivers. That's Aussie slang - no worries. mariner
27 skyguyB727: Years ago when YX served RDU with DC-9s, they had their own staff and station manager there.
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My response is: I don't care what WN does, or if they are on the route. If F9 wants to do it, they will. Let 'em. I would support it.
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