enilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 8793 posts, RR: 15 Posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 11066 times:
This compares what is for sale THIS WEEK for the stated period versus what was for sale LAST WEEK...It does NOT compare to last year or now.
How to read:
ABE-MDT 3>2 APR means a reduction in one roundtrip from 3 to 2 for April only
ABE-MDT 3.8>2.7 APR-JUN This is the raw format of the data which sometimes I'm too lazy to retype. It means that over a month they were averaging a little less than 4 trips per day and now it's a little less than 3 per day. So, basically they cancelled 8 flights per week or so. Airlines are doing A LOT of non-daily ops now, so these fractions are pervasive.
ABE-MDT 4>6 MAY- means an increase from 4 to 6 roundtrips starting in May and continuing
ABE-MDT 4>6 MAY-JUN, 5>6 JUL means the change is only for the stated period May to June and then a different change for July in the same route
Please take it easy on any typos, there was a lot to type...
PHX-YYZ 1>2 OCT-NOV
At this point I just include AM for humor since they will reverse this in a week or two.
DEN-MEX 0>1 NOV-
LAS-MEX 2/WK>1 SEP-
I believe DL had originally put the flight in the schedules as ending in October for the season. Therefore, the only change in availability would be the flight ending in September instead of October per Enilria's standard convention. Perhaps DL was thinking of keeping the flight until October if advance bookings looked particularly strong, always knowing they had the option to instead end it in September and rebook people through their other gateways.
Correct, that means that they are no longer selling it for September and October, so basically they shortened the season because it was already canceled for November and forward. It must not be as good as they had hoped. Airlines tend to be optimistic with future schedules and when bookings are disappointing or the fuel forecast is poor they start hacking things. They took a bunch of int'l ASMs out of Fall in this change. That makes me wonder if they are trying to match to investor relations guidance. Often an exec will say "we plan to cut Fall capacity x%" in an earnings call and then scheduling has to go and match the published schedule to that.
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7963 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6245 times:
Quoting enilria (Reply 7): They took a bunch of int'l ASMs out of Fall in this change. That makes me wonder if they are trying to match to investor relations guidance. Often an exec will say "we plan to cut Fall capacity x%" in an earnings call and then scheduling has to go and match the published schedule to that.
Knowing DL's scheduling habits, it can be gone one week and return the next.....
Quoting CRJ200FAGuy (Reply 8): That surprises me. Pinnacle uses that flight to get planes in and out of maintenance. The MSP-TYS never is full, but the TYS-MSP is usually pretty full in the morning.
There are so many ways to get aircraft now to TYS with 9E operating flights from DTW, MEM, and now some ATL that it is easier to get aircraft in there rather than fly really long, empty flights like MSP-TYS.
DeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3950 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5589 times:
Someone I talked to at CMH who works for DL said they've heard rumblings of a Delta expansion/additional flights to be announced sometime in June & that they were waiting for an official word...anybody hear anything? Extra frequencies? The return of SLC to go along with the previously announced resumption of flights to LAX?
It appears you're right, I hadn't read anything about this. Searching for flights on AA's website, 23 AUG 2010 appears to be the last day for non-stop flights on the route. Searching earlier showed the non-stop continuing, so I guess that was just updated today. Interesting, I wonder if this means we could see AS come to STL to replace AA.
steex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1927 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5044 times:
Quoting SANFan (Reply 16): I would also like to see some confirmation of AA's quitting the SEA-STL market as well.
It appears I edited my post while you were making yours; as noted above, AA's SEA-STL disappears from the schedule after 23 AUG 2010. That will indeed leave SEA-STL with no service since WN's flights stop a week earlier.
AS would probably make good sense on the route given their lower cost structure and ability to effectively serve both AA and DL fliers.
PHXtoDCAtoMSP From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 299 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4969 times:
Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 11): Someone I talked to at CMH who works for DL said they've heard rumblings of a Delta expansion/additional flights to be announced sometime in June & that they were waiting for an official word...anybody hear anything? Extra frequencies? The return of SLC to go along with the previously announced resumption of flights to LAX?
I've heard that CMH is an "S-Curve Market" for DL. Which basically means that Delta thinks that because of its new size post merger it should be getting more revenue combined than NW+DL before. Anyway, one aspect of the s-curve theory is the number of flights that you have scheduled. So it makes sense that there could be additional frequencies.
But CMH has already received an LAX flight, 2 additional frequencies to MSP, announced first class regional jets to LGA, and I'm sure more that I am not aware of. So there could be more.....but I doubt a whole lot more.