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US Emer. Landing, Sick Passenger+Dr. Murray!  
User currently offlinedeltaflyertoo From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1663 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6600 times:

USAIrways apparently made an emergency landing yesterday when enroute from IAH to PHX when a passenger became sick. When the flight attendants asked if there was a dr. on board, non other than the infamous Dr. Murray who is alleged to have something to do with Michael Jackson's death rose his hand! It gets better, he then inserted an IV into her! Can you imagine!? Going unconscious on a plan e only to wake up at the hands of him!? The plane diverted to ABQ...

http://www.tmz.com/2010/05/15/conrad...y-plane-iv-michael-jackson-doctor/

[Edited 2010-05-15 12:57:04 by srbmod]

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User currently offlineLVTMB From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6070 times:

Can he still practice? I though he had lost his license ..... Granted, in an emergency an unlicensed MD is better than nothing ...... Or isn't it?  

MB


User currently onlinewjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5339 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6006 times:

The guy's legal problems have nothing to do with his abilities in general as a physician, but rather the assertion that he was willing to feed Michael Jackson's preexisting addictions. I'm pretty sure that I would be happy to have him around if I had a heart attack.

[Edited 2010-05-15 15:21:05]

[Edited 2010-05-15 15:22:09]

User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5738 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 5934 times:

Quoting deltaflyertoo (Thread starter):
Dr. Murray who is alleged to have something to do with Michael Jackson's death rose his hand!
Quoting deltaflyertoo (Thread starter):
Can you imagine!? Going unconscious on a plan e only to wake up at the hands of him!?

Prescribing addictive painkillers to someone who obviously has an addiction has nothing to do with putting an IV in someone.

Quoting LVTMB (Reply 1):
Can he still practice?

Irrelevant; in fact, as a trained and able-bodied person, he could potentially be held liable if he indeed failed to do anything.



On a side note, this is otherwise a non-issue. This was probably one of 3 or 4 medical incidents aboard a PHX-bound US plane that day, although diversions are somewhat rare.



"PHX is Phoenix, PDX is the other city" -777Way
User currently offlinebok269 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 2104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5610 times:

Quoting wjcandee (Reply 2):
I'm pretty sure that I would be happy to have him around if I had a heart attack.

I have no doubt his training and education would be useful, but when MJ died he was attempting to perform (or supervised the performance of) CPR on a bed.    In a heart attack I'd take my chances with someone else.



"Reality is wrong, dreams are for real." -Tupac
User currently offlineHighflier92660 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 697 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3371 times:

...and that's the whole "trute" and nothing but the "trute."  

User currently offlinearffguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2258 times:

Quoting bok269 (Reply 4):
In a heart attack I'd take my chances with someone else.

The success rate for CPR is not great. TV shows make it look more successful than it really is. Usually by the time you need CPR, you're screwed.



Time to spare, go by air.
User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20342 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2072 times:

I live in terror of the day I get asked to assist and it's an 82yo lady. I'm a pediatrician. I haven't touched a patient over the age of 25 in five years now.

I have two stories. On the first one, I was boarding an AA 757 from JFK to SFO. In the first row of Y there was a very old lady with an oxygen cannula on and she looked to be completely out of it. I remember having a look at her and silently cursing whichever physician had cleared her to fly because now *I* was going to be responsible for her inevitable medical crisis she was going to have.

Sure enough, we were about 1.5 hours from SFO when "*ding!* Ladies and gentleman, if there is a doctor aboard, would you please identify yourself by activating your flight attendant call light?" Oh crap, here we go... So while I'm waiting for the F/A to get me, I'm mentally dusting the cobwebs off of what I know about geriatric emergencies and she takes me to the patient and it's... a 9mo boy who has developed vomiting and diarrhea and is looking a bit dehydrated. I was *SO* relieved because I knew exactly what to do.

A pad of paper, a calculator showed me how to convert sugar packets to teaspoons and we made a makeshift oral rehydration solution from sugar and salt. Got a syringe from the med kit and gave the baby 5cc's every 5 minutes for the remainder of the flight. He did so well that by the time we started our approach, I told the parents that he didn't really even need to go to the emergency room, gave them some instructions on home care for acute viral gastroenteritis, and wished them luck. Got a nice letter from AA and a bunch of AAdvantage miles.

I did get called in Spain on the AVE for an elderly lady who was non-verbal and severely demented at baseline now with acutely decreased level of consciousness. Here I am, American physician, pediatrician, thinking "well, THIS is as sub-ideal as it gets..." We were 30 miniutes away from Madrid Atocha station with really nowhere to stop along the way. I was not happy about any of this.

Fortunately, there were about 8 other doctors on the train who were Spanish and who had more appropriate training for the situation than I did (including two neurologists and two internists). So I stood back, made sure the conductor had called ahead to have an ambulance waiting for us when we arrived at the station (20 minutes away) and then politely told the other docs that I would be in car #7 in the unlikely event they needed my help...and excused myself.


User currently offlinebok269 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 2104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1896 times:

Quoting arffguy (Reply 6):

Quoting bok269 (Reply 4):
In a heart attack I'd take my chances with someone else.

The success rate for CPR is not great. TV shows make it look more successful than it really is. Usually by the time you need CPR, you're screwed.

I'm very much aware. That low success rate goes to zero if the CPR is ineffective, such is the case when it is done on a soft surface such as a bed. Good CPR started early increases the odds that later defibrillation (assuming that it's a shockable rhythm) will be successful.



"Reality is wrong, dreams are for real." -Tupac
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