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DIA Closed Rnwy  
User currently offlineJPuentes From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 48 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5813 times:

Hi everyone,

On my way out from work I saw that the runway running next to pena at DEN is closed.
Does anyone know whats up?


THNX!
SRY if its been disscused,couldnt find info...


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User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 3193 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5745 times:

Yea, rwy 8/26 is NOTAM'd closed. Doesn't say why though, as far as I can tell.


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User currently offlineBlueF9A320 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5667 times:

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 1):
Yea, rwy 8/26 is NOTAM'd closed. Doesn't say why though, as far as I can tell.

Isn't 8/26 the northern E/W runway? The one parallel to Peña is 7/25.



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User currently offlineBrick From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1579 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5264 times:

I knew something was up on Friday when I arrived DEN. I saw for the first time in almost 10 years of living in Denver runways 34L and 34R being used for departures!

Runway 8/26 is the E/W on the northeast corner of the field. Runway 7/25 is the E/W runway on the southwest corner of the field that parallels the rental car road.



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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5205 times:

Quoting Brick (Reply 3):
I saw for the first time in almost 10 years of living in Denver runways 34L and 34R being used for departures!

34R and 34L are used for departures quite often. I've been on flights that took off from them several times.



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24878 posts, RR: 46
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5176 times:

07/25 is closed for 5-weeks. Must be doing some rehabilitation work.

Quote:

05/257 (A2838/10) - RWY 7/25 CLSD. 10 MAY 13:00 2010 UNTIL 23 JUN 23:59 2010. CREATED: 10 MAY 12:14
2010



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User currently offlinemtnwest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2432 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 5033 times:
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I noticed that 7/25 was closed last week ehwn I was there, as we taxiied up to 16R for dep! I tohught hoe inefficient as I watched many deps on 16s and arr (mine was one) on 17 side. Seemed odd floating over 8 and seemingly past terminal area and land to the South on the East side. Seems Dep on 17s arr on 16s would have made more sense. Oh well. No one asked me lol.  


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User currently offlineTranspac787 From United States of America, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 3193 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4732 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 5):
07/25 is closed for 5-weeks. Must be doing some rehabilitation work.

Yikes.

God help us all if we get 30+ knot west winds.      



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User currently offlineCBPhoto From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1551 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4391 times:

Quoting Brick (Reply 3):
I saw for the first time in almost 10 years of living in Denver runways 34L and 34R being used for departures!

Guessing you meant 35L and 35R? I saw that for the first time a few weeks ago due to the strong northwest winds. 34L/R are commonly used for departures and arrivals!

Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 7):
God help us all if we get 30+ knot west winds.

That's what happened a few weeks ago! Westerly winds gusting to 40kts, 25 was the only departing runway and they were simultaneously arriving on 25, and it was during the 1030AM push! We were number 60 in line for departure, and on the ground almost and hour and a half! They really need to get moving on the new East/West parallels!



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User currently offlineCBPhoto From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1551 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4391 times:

I should also point out that 8/26 was closed for a few weeks in April as well, guessing for the same line of repair work 7/25 is closed for!


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User currently offlineBrick From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1579 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2902 times:

Quoting CBPhoto (Reply 8):
Guessing you meant 35L and 35R?

No, I mean 34L/34R. I have never seen departures off of either of these runways in the 10 years I've hung around DIA (and I've hung around DIA a lot).

That means there are only two departures I've never seen at DIA...runway 7 and 26. I've never seen an arrival on runway 8, but I've been on a flight that has arrived on all of the other possible runway headings.



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User currently offlineJPuentes From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2804 times:

well talked to someone at the airport today and she says she has no clue, It looks like construction on the west end..
Yeah I have seen all the runways being used for take off and landing even 7 for landings, only seen a couple though.



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User currently onlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12903 posts, RR: 100
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2595 times:
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Horrid, this will produce worse delays than JFK.

Oh wait... there are five other runways.  

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Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 7):
God help us all if we get 30+ knot west winds.

I think there is some chance of that, but overall, low risk for DEN having horrid delays (due to the multitude of other runways) in dry weather...

I was shocked to find some Airlines in wet conditions (with low visibility) will drop the allowed 10 kts of crosswind.

http://www.nlr.nl/id~5114/lang~en.pdf

My (admittedly limited) experience with cross winds is that they rarely go 90 degrees to the runway. Does anyone have a link to the statistical chance of 30+ knot component of wind in the east or west direction during the next five weeks?

The impact will be greatest on the turboprops. ATR-72 at 30 knots cross-wind.

It looks like the 737 with winglets is 34kts vs. 40 knots for without winglets (unless I missed further flight testing to increase the cross-wing certification):
http://www.b737.org.uk/winglets.htm

I was also surprised to see the A320 is limited to a 29kts takeoff (33kts landing) cross wind. So 30kts will have an impact.

However, the true limit will be in wet weather with limited visibility. I do not know UA's/F9's/WN's airline policies. So it will be interesting to see if there are significant delays.

Lightsaber



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User currently offlinecaspian27 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2330 times:

Quoting Brick (Reply 10):
No, I mean 34L/34R. I have never seen departures off of either of these runways in the 10 years I've hung around DIA (and I've hung around DIA a lot).

I am based out of DEN. These are probably THE most common departure runways at DEN. With 8 and 25 being a close second...

Lightsaber,

On the CRJ max demonstrated crosswind for takeoff and landing is 27 kts. But this isn't limiting, meaning we can go with highers crosswinds. Unsure about the mainline guys policies...

[Edited 2010-05-17 14:03:48]


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User currently offlineCBPhoto From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1551 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2288 times:

Quoting Brick (Reply 10):
No, I mean 34L/34R. I have never seen departures off of either of these runways in the 10 years I've hung around DIA (and I've hung around DIA a lot).

Yeah, I am based and fly out of DEN, and I can tell you 34L/R is the most common departure rwy! I can't count how many times I have taken off on the 34s!



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User currently onlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12903 posts, RR: 100
Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2092 times:
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Quoting caspian27 (Reply 13):
On the CRJ max demonstrated crosswind for takeoff and landing is 27 kts. But this isn't limiting, meaning we can go with highers crosswinds. Unsure about the mainline guys policies...

Thank you. I'm just trying to understand the 'risk' for the 5 weeks the runway is down.

Lightsaber



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User currently offlinemcg From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 792 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1911 times:

Why is 8/26 closed? What work is being done?

Thanks


User currently offlinecaspian27 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1771 times:

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 15):
Thank you. I'm just trying to understand the 'risk' for the 5 weeks the runway is down.

I don't think there is much risk. From a pilot perspective (at least mine). I much prefer taking off with a strong crosswind to landing with a strong crosswind. As for landing, 26 is normally used for landing west and we may just see more landings on 8 if the winds warrant it.



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User currently offlineJPuentes From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1515 times:

here is the answer


-Last week, the airport closed Runway 7/25 for concrete panel replacement and other maintenance. The closure is planned to last for no more than 45 days. Although this will reduce the number of available runways at DIA to five from six, the airport will continue to operate normally and they do not anticipate a significant impact to flight operations as a result of the closure.-
http://www.thedenverdailynews.com/article.php?aID=8474

skip all the pot stuff and there it will be,
Apparently they are going to close 16R/14L for a week also.



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