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How Many 787 Built To Date?  
User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2491 posts, RR: 25
Posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 20886 times:

Hey guy's/girls,

I saw some photo's today from paine field, and what suprised me is that i saw 7+ 787's (mostly painted in ANA livery) on the delivery ramp, but the photo didn't show every plane on the field. I googled a bit, but the only thing that came up is how many 787's are participating in the test-programm.

And besides the RAM and ANA's, are theire more 787's in different airline livery's?

Thanks in advance

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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31436 posts, RR: 85
Reply 1, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 20698 times:
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In addition to the six test frames, there should be a dozen customer frames. Next livery we should see will be LA.

User currently offline787atPAE From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 143 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 20644 times:

Don't forget the two frames that will never fly (the static and fatigue test frames).

User currently offlineMauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2491 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 20597 times:

Thanks both, so that would make it like around the 20 frames, including the static test frames. I imagine that at the time the 787 gets its commercial aproval around 25/30 (test planes for ANA included) frames are up for delivery? Dunno what the current production rate is, but i would imagine something like that.

User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31436 posts, RR: 85
Reply 4, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 20082 times:
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Quoting MauriceB (Reply 3):
I imagine that at the time the 787 gets its commercial aproval around 25/30 (test planes for ANA included) frames are up for delivery?

That's the goal Boeing is shooting for. The first three test frames (LN001, LN002 and LN003) will stay with Boeing. The customers for the final three (LN004, LN005, LN006) are unknown, but 787 VIPs makes the most sense.


User currently offlinedynamicsguy From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 887 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 19746 times:

Quoting MauriceB (Reply 3):
Thanks both, so that would make it like around the 20 frames, including the static test frames.

All airframes up to and including LN 21 have left the final assembly line, so that makes 23. LN 7-9 are apparently back on the final assembly line, and LN 22 is in position 1.


User currently offlineUAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2392 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 19659 times:

Quoting dynamicsguy (Reply 5):
All airframes up to and including LN 21 have left the final assembly line, so that makes 23. LN 7-9 are apparently back on the final assembly line, and LN 22 is in position 1.

Wow I had no idea things were moving along so quickly! I know that this is still far behind schedule but they seem to be getting it together!



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User currently offlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1161 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 19614 times:

Who will be the first Middle Eastern airline to receive the 787 ?? and when ?

User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31436 posts, RR: 85
Reply 8, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 19393 times:
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Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 7):
Who will be the first Middle Eastern airline to receive the 787 ?? and when ?

QR in 2011.


User currently offlinedavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 19359 times:

Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 6):
I know that this is still far behind schedule but they seem to be getting it together!

Yeah, it is good to see B start to catch up. I wonder if the cancellations will help with that. Also, from what I remember reading, there are still some glitches in the supply chain.

Dave



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User currently onlinerj777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1886 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 19233 times:

Man, I bet the paint hangars are going to be working overtime!

User currently offlinefrigatebird From Netherlands, joined Jun 2008, 1715 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 17636 times:

Quoting dynamicsguy (Reply 5):
LN 7-9 are apparently back on the final assembly line

What's the reason for that? Haven't all side of body modifications been completed yet?  
Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 6):
Wow I had no idea things were moving along so quickly! I know that this is still far behind schedule but they seem to be getting it together!
Quoting dynamicsguy (Reply 5):
LN 22 is in position 1.

Don't forget that Boeing has halted final assembly of LN23 and further for a month, to avoid out of sequence work: (link) If Boeing manages to get LN23 out of FAL by July and can ramp up production to 2,5 frames per month later this year, I wouldn't be surprised to see around 35 customer 787's out of the factory when NH receives their first. Doesn't mean that those 35 will all be ready for delivery yet, engines need to be installed and interiors will need to be fitted.



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User currently offlinejfr From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 17533 times:

How about somebody sharing the photo's we're discussing?

User currently offlineReggaebird From Jamaica, joined Nov 1999, 1176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 15307 times:

I took took the Boeing Plant Tour two weeks ago. In addition to more ANA 787's, the line contained the second bird for Royal Air Maroc and the first and second machines for Japan Airlines (JAL).

Reggaebird


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5803 posts, RR: 47
Reply 14, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 14605 times:

You can check my blog for the 787 production status. It lists all the 787s that are built or to be built all the way out to airplane 30 and their locations if known.


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User currently offlinedukebluedevil From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 119 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 14182 times:

I thought that Royal Jordanian was the Middle East launch customer. Did the QR deal bypass this?

http://www.ainonline.com/airshow-con...story_pointer]=1&tx_ttnews[mode]=1


User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2780 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks ago) and read 13670 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 14):
You can check my blog for the 787 production status. It lists all the 787s that are built or to be built all the way out to airplane 30 and their locations if known.

Are we forbidden to post a link to your extremely informative blog?

http://nyc787.blogspot.com/2010/02/keep-line-moving.html


User currently offlinefrigatebird From Netherlands, joined Jun 2008, 1715 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks ago) and read 13312 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 14):
You can check my blog for the 787 production status. It lists all the 787s that are built or to be built all the way out to airplane 30 and their locations if known.

Thank you, that answers my question why LN7/8/9 are back at the FAL... SoB modifications haven't progressed as far as I thought.



Quoting United787 (Reply 16):
Are we forbidden to post a link to your extremely informative blog?

According to A.net rules you are not allowed to post a link to your own blog. But you can post a link to somebody else's blog though.



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31436 posts, RR: 85
Reply 18, posted (4 years 7 months 2 weeks ago) and read 13288 times:
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Quoting frigatebird (Reply 17):
SoB modifications haven't progressed as far as I thought.

They can only modify one or two planes at a time, due to lack of space. New builds already have the modification done at the subs, so Boeing is just working through the backlog and they have plenty of time.


User currently offlinebkircher From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 10843 times:

"In addition to the six test frames, there should be a dozen customer frames. Next livery we should see will be LA"

What is that supposed to look like?? I hope they will paint a few more dreamliner schemes, cause it looks awsome!


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31436 posts, RR: 85
Reply 20, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 10519 times:
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Quoting bkircher (Reply 19):
What is that supposed to look like?

Probably bloody brilliant considering how magnificent LA's livery is.

Here is a picture from Boeing Media on the order (787 and 777 Freighter):



User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21589 posts, RR: 59
Reply 21, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 10318 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 18):
They can only modify one or two planes at a time, due to lack of space.

I would imagine it's also due to a lack of trained staff and equipment specifically tasked with this. It was a large learning curve getting the first few done, so by now those who have been working on them for a while are going to be much more efficient at doing further repairs.



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5803 posts, RR: 47
Reply 22, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 10076 times:

Well the SoB mods still have to be done on 5m ore air frames and there are three air frames that are in the mindst of reassembly. Considering that Boeing has a little more than 6 months to get them fixed and reassembled, I think they're ok in terms of the time needed to get this done.


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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 6095 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 9873 times:

Why are 787 engines being kept white instead of the normal grey.

User currently offlineflybyguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1801 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (4 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8900 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 1):
Next livery we should see will be LA.

Actually I think the next full livery to make an appearance at PAE is JL.

Quoting dukebluedevil (Reply 15):
I thought that Royal Jordanian was the Middle East launch customer. Did the QR deal bypass this?

Apparently QR wanted the planes more than Jordanian... from what I've read it looks like RJ will get their planes late next year.



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