MauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2492 posts, RR: 24 Posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 22192 times:
I saw some photo's today from paine field, and what suprised me is that i saw 7+ 787's (mostly painted in ANA livery) on the delivery ramp, but the photo didn't show every plane on the field. I googled a bit, but the only thing that came up is how many 787's are participating in the test-programm.
And besides the RAM and ANA's, are theire more 787's in different airline livery's?
MauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2492 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 21903 times:
Thanks both, so that would make it like around the 20 frames, including the static test frames. I imagine that at the time the 787 gets its commercial aproval around 25/30 (test planes for ANA included) frames are up for delivery? Dunno what the current production rate is, but i would imagine something like that.
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 33965 posts, RR: 85
Reply 4, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 21388 times:
Quoting MauriceB (Reply 3): I imagine that at the time the 787 gets its commercial aproval around 25/30 (test planes for ANA included) frames are up for delivery?
That's the goal Boeing is shooting for. The first three test frames (LN001, LN002 and LN003) will stay with Boeing. The customers for the final three (LN004, LN005, LN006) are unknown, but 787 VIPs makes the most sense.
UAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2392 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 20965 times:
Quoting dynamicsguy (Reply 5): All airframes up to and including LN 21 have left the final assembly line, so that makes 23. LN 7-9 are apparently back on the final assembly line, and LN 22 is in position 1.
Wow I had no idea things were moving along so quickly! I know that this is still far behind schedule but they seem to be getting it together!
Don't forget that Boeing has halted final assembly of LN23 and further for a month, to avoid out of sequence work: (link) If Boeing manages to get LN23 out of FAL by July and can ramp up production to 2,5 frames per month later this year, I wouldn't be surprised to see around 35 customer 787's out of the factory when NH receives their first. Doesn't mean that those 35 will all be ready for delivery yet, engines need to be installed and interiors will need to be fitted.
They can only modify one or two planes at a time, due to lack of space. New builds already have the modification done at the subs, so Boeing is just working through the backlog and they have plenty of time.
ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 22161 posts, RR: 59
Reply 21, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 11624 times:
Quoting Stitch (Reply 18): They can only modify one or two planes at a time, due to lack of space.
I would imagine it's also due to a lack of trained staff and equipment specifically tasked with this. It was a large learning curve getting the first few done, so by now those who have been working on them for a while are going to be much more efficient at doing further repairs.
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
NYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5919 posts, RR: 46
Reply 22, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 11382 times:
Well the SoB mods still have to be done on 5m ore air frames and there are three air frames that are in the mindst of reassembly. Considering that Boeing has a little more than 6 months to get them fixed and reassembled, I think they're ok in terms of the time needed to get this done.