MauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2477 posts, RR: 28 Posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 18951 times:
Hey guy's/girls,
I saw some photo's today from paine field, and what suprised me is that i saw 7+ 787's (mostly painted in ANA livery) on the delivery ramp, but the photo didn't show every plane on the field. I googled a bit, but the only thing that came up is how many 787's are participating in the test-programm.
And besides the RAM and ANA's, are theire more 787's in different airline livery's?
MauriceB From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 2477 posts, RR: 28 Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 18662 times:
Thanks both, so that would make it like around the 20 frames, including the static test frames. I imagine that at the time the 787 gets its commercial aproval around 25/30 (test planes for ANA included) frames are up for delivery? Dunno what the current production rate is, but i would imagine something like that.
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 26940 posts, RR: 83 Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 18147 times:
Quoting MauriceB (Reply 3): I imagine that at the time the 787 gets its commercial aproval around 25/30 (test planes for ANA included) frames are up for delivery?
That's the goal Boeing is shooting for. The first three test frames (LN001, LN002 and LN003) will stay with Boeing. The customers for the final three (LN004, LN005, LN006) are unknown, but 787 VIPs makes the most sense.
dynamicsguy From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 778 posts, RR: 8 Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 17811 times:
Quoting MauriceB (Reply 3): Thanks both, so that would make it like around the 20 frames, including the static test frames.
All airframes up to and including LN 21 have left the final assembly line, so that makes 23. LN 7-9 are apparently back on the final assembly line, and LN 22 is in position 1.
UAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2226 posts, RR: 12 Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 17724 times:
Quoting dynamicsguy (Reply 5): All airframes up to and including LN 21 have left the final assembly line, so that makes 23. LN 7-9 are apparently back on the final assembly line, and LN 22 is in position 1.
Wow I had no idea things were moving along so quickly! I know that this is still far behind schedule but they seem to be getting it together!
davescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2266 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 17424 times:
Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 6): I know that this is still far behind schedule but they seem to be getting it together!
Yeah, it is good to see B start to catch up. I wonder if the cancellations will help with that. Also, from what I remember reading, there are still some glitches in the supply chain.
frigatebird From Netherlands, joined Jun 2008, 1244 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 15701 times:
Quoting dynamicsguy (Reply 5): LN 7-9 are apparently back on the final assembly line
What's the reason for that? Haven't all side of body modifications been completed yet?
Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 6): Wow I had no idea things were moving along so quickly! I know that this is still far behind schedule but they seem to be getting it together!
Don't forget that Boeing has halted final assembly of LN23 and further for a month, to avoid out of sequence work: (link) If Boeing manages to get LN23 out of FAL by July and can ramp up production to 2,5 frames per month later this year, I wouldn't be surprised to see around 35 customer 787's out of the factory when NH receives their first. Doesn't mean that those 35 will all be ready for delivery yet, engines need to be installed and interiors will need to be fitted.
Reggaebird From Jamaica, joined Nov 1999, 1169 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 13372 times:
I took took the Boeing Plant Tour two weeks ago. In addition to more ANA 787's, the line contained the second bird for Royal Air Maroc and the first and second machines for Japan Airlines (JAL).
NYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5214 posts, RR: 49 Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 12670 times:
You can check my blog for the 787 production status. It lists all the 787s that are built or to be built all the way out to airplane 30 and their locations if known.
dukebluedevil From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 119 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 12247 times:
I thought that Royal Jordanian was the Middle East launch customer. Did the QR deal bypass this?
United787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2352 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11735 times:
Quoting NYC777 (Reply 14): You can check my blog for the 787 production status. It lists all the 787s that are built or to be built all the way out to airplane 30 and their locations if known.
Are we forbidden to post a link to your extremely informative blog?
frigatebird From Netherlands, joined Jun 2008, 1244 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11377 times:
Quoting NYC777 (Reply 14): You can check my blog for the 787 production status. It lists all the 787s that are built or to be built all the way out to airplane 30 and their locations if known.
Thank you, that answers my question why LN7/8/9 are back at the FAL... SoB modifications haven't progressed as far as I thought.
Quoting United787 (Reply 16): Are we forbidden to post a link to your extremely informative blog?
According to A.net rules you are not allowed to post a link to your own blog. But you can post a link to somebody else's blog though.
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 26940 posts, RR: 83 Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11353 times:
Quoting frigatebird (Reply 17): SoB modifications haven't progressed as far as I thought.
They can only modify one or two planes at a time, due to lack of space. New builds already have the modification done at the subs, so Boeing is just working through the backlog and they have plenty of time.
ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21041 posts, RR: 60 Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 8383 times:
Quoting Stitch (Reply 18): They can only modify one or two planes at a time, due to lack of space.
I would imagine it's also due to a lack of trained staff and equipment specifically tasked with this. It was a large learning curve getting the first few done, so by now those who have been working on them for a while are going to be much more efficient at doing further repairs.
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
NYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5214 posts, RR: 49 Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 8141 times:
Well the SoB mods still have to be done on 5m ore air frames and there are three air frames that are in the mindst of reassembly. Considering that Boeing has a little more than 6 months to get them fixed and reassembled, I think they're ok in terms of the time needed to get this done.
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