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User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3432 posts, RR: 26
Posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 6394 times:
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This is a continuation thread from part 1, which can be found here: New Ash Cloud Heading To Europe, Nearing Africa

Please feel free to discuss the topic here.


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User currently offlineEHAM From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 6302 times:

Amsterdam (AMS) re-opened and receiving regular arrivals and all diverted flights from this morning.

Also first departures are out from runway 24.


User currently offlineConcordski From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 5896 times:

I was worried a few days ago looking at the Met Office forecast as I have a flight to Barcelona today. However it seems the ash cloud wasn't that disruptive "except at perhaps MAN" and all major airports that shut down are already open.

Some aircraft had to return to their origins though. Delta 238 ATL-AMS had to turn back 1.5 hours into it's flight yesterday as they were informed that AMS would be closed when they were scheduled to land.

[Edited 2010-05-17 08:00:05]

User currently offlinehailstone From Germany, joined Nov 2000, 408 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 5862 times:

it's like a Hollywood remake

The Return of the Cloud.................


User currently offlineBreiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1892 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 5809 times:

Quoting hailstone (Reply 3):
The Return of the Cloud.................

That's a good one  , although being due to fly MRS-AMS-SVG on Wednesday, I'm not entirely amused.


User currently offlinevv701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7257 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 5301 times:

The only British airports still closed this afternoon (17 May) are KRK (Kirkwall) in the Orkney Islands and LSI (Sumburgh) in the Shetland Isles together with the minor airports in both groups of these northerly islands.

User currently offlinehausauflennon From Barbados, joined Jul 2009, 86 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 5100 times:

Last evening, May 16th, both BA services to LGW and the VS to LGW were delayed significantly, with the BA 2154 and VS 30 departing BGI @ 21:30 and 21:25 respectively. The final BA departed at 23:30.

Virgin's VS 77/78 service (MAN-BGI-MAN) was cancelled altogether yesterday evening.

Thankfully the earlier flights departed, as it is 20/20 Cricket season in Barbados and the hotels are filled to the brim with cricket supporters from all over the world right now. Had those three UK-bound flights been cancelled hundreds of BA and VS passengers would've been stranded in Grantley Adams International Airport due to there being no hotel rooms to accomodate them.

It would've been chaos in short.


User currently offlineyodobashi From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2007, 227 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4179 times:

Just saw this:

New rules to allow planes to fly at higher ash densities for a limited time will be introduced at noon on Tuesday, the Civil Aviation Authority has said.

Everyone seems desperate not to be the one to blame if ever something does goes wrong (god forbid) so now the manufacturers will be the subject of finger pointing ....



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User currently offlineAeolus From Mexico, joined Aug 2007, 372 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4167 times:

Do you think it'd be safe to fly MEX-FRA? I'm booked in that flight and on to VRN... will I be affected?

-Aeolus



Flying under the clouds above!
User currently offlineadam42185 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 408 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 4112 times:

Quoting yodobashi (Reply 7):
New rules to allow planes to fly at higher ash densities for a limited time will be introduced at noon on Tuesday, the Civil Aviation Authority has said.

This just seems like a really bad idea. I hope we don't see the next Speedbird 9, Especially if the outcome is worse than the first time.

[Edited 2010-05-17 22:27:32]

User currently offlinePipoA380 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1594 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week ago) and read 3504 times:
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Let's see how this moves on... Flying to LCY on saturday and back on monday, just hopes is doesn't affect the flight to go, or the flight to come back either!  

Philippe



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User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4360 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (3 years 11 months 1 week ago) and read 3471 times:

Quoting Aeolus (Reply 8):

When? The next days look safe.

Look at http://db.eurad.uni-koeln.de/promote/RLAQS/volcano.php and you have the forecast for the next days.

[Edited 2010-05-18 01:00:20]

User currently offlinedispatchguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1248 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (3 years 11 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3215 times:

Quoting adam42185 (Reply 9):
This just seems like a really bad idea.

Well note in the article it says that you can operate at the higher levels only with approval from your airframe and engine manufacturer - not just a carte blanche go for it.

That means that your maintenance program would need to be revised per the manufacturers guidance to accommodate the higher ash concentrations. So at a minimum my guess is that you would probably have to have a repetitive engine borescope done after every flight through a known area of the ash.

THAT can become a pain in an of itself, unless you have qualified borescope equipment and personnel stationed everywhere you fly...



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