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New Ash Cloud In Europe #2

SA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 2916 posts, RR: 20
Posted (3 years 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5561 times:

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This is a continuation thread from part 1, which can be found here: New Ash Cloud Heading To Europe, Nearing Africa

Please feel free to discuss the topic here.

Rgds

SA7700

When you are doing stuff that nobody has done before, there is no manual – Kevin McCloud

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EHAM From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5469 times:

Amsterdam (AMS) re-opened and receiving regular arrivals and all diverted flights from this morning.

Also first departures are out from runway 24.

Concordski From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5063 times:

I was worried a few days ago looking at the Met Office forecast as I have a flight to Barcelona today. However it seems the ash cloud wasn't that disruptive "except at perhaps MAN" and all major airports that shut down are already open.

Some aircraft had to return to their origins though. Delta 238 ATL-AMS had to turn back 1.5 hours into it's flight yesterday as they were informed that AMS would be closed when they were scheduled to land.

[Edited 2010-05-17 08:00:05]

hailstone From Germany, joined Nov 2000, 394 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5029 times:

it's like a Hollywood remake

The Return of the Cloud.................

Breiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1808 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4976 times:

Quoting hailstone (Reply 3):
The Return of the Cloud.................

That's a good one

, although being due to fly MRS-AMS-SVG on Wednesday, I'm not entirely amused.

vv701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 6618 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4468 times:

The only British airports still closed this afternoon (17 May) are KRK (Kirkwall) in the Orkney Islands and LSI (Sumburgh) in the Shetland Isles together with the minor airports in both groups of these northerly islands.

hausauflennon From Barbados, joined Jul 2009, 86 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 days ago) and read 4267 times:

Last evening, May 16th, both BA services to LGW and the VS to LGW were delayed significantly, with the BA 2154 and VS 30 departing BGI @ 21:30 and 21:25 respectively. The final BA departed at 23:30.

Virgin's VS 77/78 service (MAN-BGI-MAN) was cancelled altogether yesterday evening.

Thankfully the earlier flights departed, as it is 20/20 Cricket season in Barbados and the hotels are filled to the brim with cricket supporters from all over the world right now. Had those three UK-bound flights been cancelled hundreds of BA and VS passengers would've been stranded in Grantley Adams International Airport due to there being no hotel rooms to accomodate them.

It would've been chaos in short.

yodobashi From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2007, 214 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3346 times:

Just saw this:

New rules to allow planes to fly at higher ash densities for a limited time will be introduced at noon on Tuesday, the Civil Aviation Authority has said.

Everyone seems desperate not to be the one to blame if ever something does goes wrong (god forbid) so now the manufacturers will be the subject of finger pointing ....

"The World is a book, and those who do not travel read only a page"

Aeolus From Mexico, joined Aug 2007, 370 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3334 times:

Do you think it'd be safe to fly MEX-FRA? I'm booked in that flight and on to VRN... will I be affected?

-Aeolus

Flying under the clouds above!

adam42185 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 395 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3279 times:

Quoting yodobashi (Reply 7):
New rules to allow planes to fly at higher ash densities for a limited time will be introduced at noon on Tuesday, the Civil Aviation Authority has said.

This just seems like a really bad idea. I hope we don't see the next Speedbird 9, Especially if the outcome is worse than the first time.

[Edited 2010-05-17 22:27:32]

PipoA380 From Switzerland, joined May 2005, 1591 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (3 years 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2671 times:

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Let's see how this moves on... Flying to LCY on saturday and back on monday, just hopes is doesn't affect the flight to go, or the flight to come back either!

Philippe

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Burkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4248 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (3 years 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2638 times:

Quoting Aeolus (Reply 8):

When? The next days look safe.

Look at http://db.eurad.uni-koeln.de/promote/RLAQS/volcano.php and you have the forecast for the next days.

[Edited 2010-05-18 01:00:20]

dispatchguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1185 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (3 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2382 times:

Quoting adam42185 (Reply 9):
This just seems like a really bad idea.

Well note in the article it says that you can operate at the higher levels only with approval from your airframe and engine manufacturer - not just a carte blanche go for it.

That means that your maintenance program would need to be revised per the manufacturers guidance to accommodate the higher ash concentrations. So at a minimum my guess is that you would probably have to have a repetitive engine borescope done after every flight through a known area of the ash.

THAT can become a pain in an of itself, unless you have qualified borescope equipment and personnel stationed everywhere you fly...

Nobody screws you better than an airline job!

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