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Delta Applies For MSP-MEX  
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25397 posts, RR: 49
Posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 9461 times:

Delta applied with the DOT to commence daily year-round service between Minneapolis/St. Paul, and Mexico City, Mexico.
Carrier proposes utilizing A319 equipment commencing service on or around December 1st 2010.

OST-2010-TBA


From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
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User currently offlinesurfandsnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2866 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 9430 times:

Interesting. A quick check of wikipedia shows that DL currently serves MEX from hubs at SLC, ATL, JFK, and DTW. It's a little strange that NW only served MEX from DTW - where were the connections to MEM and MSP?


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User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3483 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 9218 times:

Good to see DL is committed to increasing international service from MSP. FRA please DL? With the huge amount of connectivity at MSP, MSP-MEX on a 319 should do well.

Jeremy


User currently offlineolli From Mexico, joined Mar 2001, 341 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 9124 times:

Wow, good to hear, it was about time!

I go at least 4 times a year to MSP and i am tired of connecting.

Best Regards,


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7582 posts, RR: 42
Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 9124 times:

Good to hear! Nice to see DL increase flights to Mexico.

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 2):
With the huge amount of connectivity at MSP, MSP-MEX on a 319 should do well.

I agree.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineLH417AF025 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 276 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 8814 times:

this is awesome!

now lets see DL start granting skymiles credit for "W" class fares and I will be a happy man.


User currently offlineKaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 6, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 8750 times:
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Quoting EddieDude (Reply 4):
Good to hear! Nice to see DL increase flights to Mexico.

About damn time!  



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User currently offlinedavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 8749 times:

I think it great that DL is expanding MSP. Hopefully a sign of good things to come!

Dave



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User currently offlineaf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2688 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 8432 times:

Finally! If AM won't actually start this route then DL is the perfect candidate. For those who don't know, AM applied for MEX-MSP in Spring 2007 and AM is known for applying for many route authorities but not actually starting these routes. Glad to see DL is committed to expanding MSP even in the international market.


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User currently offlinebiggsfo From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2924 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 8404 times:

Good news indeed- but - is there much of a market?

User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7582 posts, RR: 42
Reply 10, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 8179 times:

Quoting LH417AF025 (Reply 5):
now lets see DL start granting skymiles credit for "W" class fares and I will be a happy man.

I know! Same feeling here!



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7591 posts, RR: 27
Reply 11, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 7909 times:

Quoting surfandsnow (Reply 1):
It's a little strange that NW only served MEX from DTW - where were the connections to MEM and MSP?

DTW - MEX has a lot of Automotive / manufacturing ties, same reason why DTW-MTY is flown.


User currently offlineSNCntry32 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 7556 times:

Quoting biggsfo (Reply 9):
Good news indeed- but - is there much of a market?

General Mills? BestBuy? Target? Cargill? 3M?

One of these 5 companies has to have some sort of ties to Mexico... And thats just the shortlist...



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User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3483 posts, RR: 10
Reply 13, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 7525 times:

Quoting SNCntry32 (Reply 12):


One of these 5 companies has to have some sort of ties to Mexico... And thats just the shortlist...

Add that to the connections through MSP as well as on the MEX end with AM, the route should have plenty of demand.

Jeremy


User currently offlineaf773atmsp From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2688 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 7504 times:

Is there any article or source on this?


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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8902 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 7493 times:

Quoting SNCntry32 (Reply 12):
General Mills? BestBuy? Target? Cargill? 3M?

One of these 5 companies has to have some sort of ties to Mexico... And thats just the shortlist...

Best Buy Mexico has its offices located in Mexico City.


User currently offlinedanild From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 7174 times:

This would be really cool! but I didn't see anything online... does anybody have source?


Danild
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25397 posts, RR: 49
Reply 17, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week ago) and read 7041 times:

Quoting af773atmsp (Reply 14):
Is there any article or source on this?

Check regulations.gov in a day or so.

The OST # was not yet available at the time I posted.



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User currently offlinenetjetsintl From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week ago) and read 6889 times:

i hope the flight does well, good luck to Delta...

Hey guys what happened to DL's MSP-CUN? a couple of months ago, it showed like 4 daily flights, two of those flights were 757-300s. It does not show anything for the nex few months??? is that a seasonal thing??


User currently offlinepremobrimo From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 425 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week ago) and read 6791 times:

The MSP-CUN flight is a daily seasonal flight. It only runs on Saturdays during the summer.


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User currently offlinelaca773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4018 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (4 years 4 months 1 week ago) and read 6693 times:
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Quoting surfandsnow (Reply 1):
Interesting. A quick check of wikipedia shows that DL currently serves MEX from hubs at SLC, ATL, JFK, and DTW. It's a little strange that NW only served MEX from DTW - where were the connections to MEM and MSP?

DL's website is much more reliable than wikipedia.
There's nothing strange about it. NW's MSP & MEM hubs were not able to sustain year round service at the time on this route, in particular MEM-MEX.

I wish DL the best on this route. It sounds like the 319 will be a great a/c for this route and they can always upgauge it as warranted.


User currently offlineSNCntry32 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 4 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6551 times:

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 15):
Best Buy Mexico has its offices located in Mexico City.

Good to Know and I wonder if Target has any sort of pressence down there.

The demand is there to connect Mexicos largest businness hub and a sizable busniss hub in the Midwest.



Long Live Memphis!
User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7582 posts, RR: 42
Reply 22, posted (4 years 4 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6333 times:

Quoting SNCntry32 (Reply 12):
General Mills? BestBuy? Target? Cargill? 3M?

One of these 5 companies has to have some sort of ties to Mexico... And thats just the shortlist...

All but Target have ties to Mexico. Best Buy has recently opened stores in Mexico. 3M is quite big here. Cargill also has Mexico operations. I dunno whether there are a lot of General Mills employees in Mexico (and where in Mexico) but I do know their products are sold here... maybe they even have a local site.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineacidradio From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1874 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (4 years 4 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6155 times:
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Put together all the business ties that Minnesota has to Mexico along with a modest Mexican-American population in Minneapolis and St. Paul (along with other parts of the Upper Midwest) and this route could be a success. Sure MSP has its seasonal flights to Mexican resort cities but this gets people to the real interior and business/industrial/commercial centers of Mexico.


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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7591 posts, RR: 27
Reply 24, posted (4 years 4 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5898 times:

Another reason for this route is that previously when CO was in Skyteam, most of MSP's Mexico traffic flowed over IAH. With the CO codeshare and reciprical FF arrangement it was seamless for the NW flyers in MSP to fly MSP-IAH-xxx(Mexico).

25 Aeolus : How's AM taking this? Wasn't DL code-sharing/going to code-share with AM? -Aeolus
26 EddieDude : Well, the natural thing would be for DL's MSP-MEX service to have AM's code on it, wouldn't it? AM and DL are partners within SkyTeam and have a lot
27 Aeolus : Where was NW flying from DTW or MSP? -Aeolus
28 burnsie28 : They did fly it, I saw AM planes in MSP a few times. Each time I saw them come in however they parked at Humphrey DTW to MEX.
29 laca773 : As previously mentioned, NW served DTW-MEX until the merger when DL took the route over. AM applied to start MEX-MSP and that never went anywhere as
30 usflyer msp : The AM planes at MSP were CUN-MSP charters. After Champion Air closed the Travel Agencies that used Champion chose to move that business to AM for th
31 flydreamliner : Target does have presence in Mexico City. Whereas Target only has stores in the US, they have sourcing offices in over 30 countries, including Mexico
32 EddieDude : Correct. And DL is still using A319s on the DTW-MEX route if I am not mistaken. Ah! Thanks for the information flydreamliner. Guess that makes it 5 o
33 olli : You are not, Eddie. DL runs a daily flight with A319 and DTW-MTY is flown daily with E75. Best Regards,
34 cx340 : Yes indeed. I took the MEX-DTW-MEX flight a couple weeks ago. The loads for MEX-DTW were ok and DTW-MEX was full, every seat taken. I tried to upload
35 MaverickM11 : This one is a little weird; I'd expect a second daily DTWMEX before a first MSPMEX. The local market is decent, but connecting opportunities are circu
36 davescj : This surprised me as well. But, I wonder how much this is going to rely on connecting traffic from the west/Asia flights. Dave
37 Post contains images laca773 : . Perhaps we'll see DL build these MEX routes up to more than they have been. With 73Hs, 320s and the 757s, they can add/decrease capacity as warrant
38 Post contains links af773atmsp : Found the application: http://www.regulations.gov/search/Re...#documentDetail?R=0900006480aeed31
39 flydreamliner : Why? First off, expansion could easily be accomplished on DTW-MEX by up-gauging to an A320 or 738 (or even 752, if it gets that far). Adding MSP-MEX
40 PSU.DTW.SCE : Agreed. The key part of these routes is the timing. A 2nd daily DTW-MEX would most likely not be that effective since the appropriate timing is neces
41 Post contains images EddieDude : It could? Wow, the E75 is a really capable bird!
42 MaverickM11 : Upgauging wouldn't offer a better schedule pattern that would A) improve the schedule for DTW based business and B) allow one stop connectivity to As
43 laca773 : It's quite obvious DL finds DTW to be a better international gateway than MSP. If it had more to gain, NW would have already had a nonstop, year roun
44 SESGDL : If DL had more to gain by offering a second daily DTW-MEX flight then they wouldn't be applying for MSP-MEX. Jeremy
45 biggsfo : Considering the stage length of this flight, DL might want to keep the 319 thus driving the yields higher on a nonstop and route the lower yielding c
46 laca773 : I wouldn't be so quick to assume that would even be possible until The US & Mexico come to an agreement and have open skies into MEX & GDL. M
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