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Symbol For Please Turn Off Electronic Devices Sign  
User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6633 posts, RR: 2
Posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 5618 times:

A long time ago, the No Smoking/Fasten Seat Belt signs on most aircraft were text-based signs. Since the early 1980s, the new trend has been for symbol-based signs which we are all familiar with nowadays. The lavatory signs also soon began to use symbols, such as the Airbus-style red/green signs and the Boeing-style "red X" signs.

However, some airlines (such as US Airways) have began to introduce "Please Turn Off Electronic Devices" signs. However, these signs are text-based, much like the No Smoking and Fasten Seat Belt signs on older aircraft. After all, the problem with text-based signs is that not everyone understands English. Perhaps an idea for a symbol-based version of such signs would be a laptop pictogram crossed out either with a red "X" or a no symbol (red crossed circle).

Does anyone have an idea for a symbol-based versions of such signs?


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User currently offlineeisenbach From Austria, joined Mar 2001, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5586 times:

I flew some weeks ago with Royal Jordanian (VIE - AMM - BEY). They had on a new A319 a turn off electrical devices sign (between the non smoking sign and the seat belt sign). I have no picture but I think there was a cell phone symbol and another symbol??? The pilot also anounced that the use of cell phones is allowed during cruise - fortunatly nobody used this "offer"  

About the sign - I needed about five minutes to figure out what kind of sign this was - so maybe not the best example  

maalesh

[Edited 2010-05-17 16:06:29]


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User currently offlinejreuschl From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 550 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5586 times:

Maybe an outline of an item with buttons with headphones attached?

Or an Apple logo?  


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25860 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5515 times:

Any symbol would probably be too small to be easily identified. I was on two KL Embraer 190s a week ago and noted they had the "Turn off electrical devices" lighted sign (in English only like all notices on KL aircraft) in the overhead consoles where the No Smoking signs would have been previously.

User currently onlineYflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1083 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5432 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
Perhaps an idea for a symbol-based version of such signs would be a laptop pictogram crossed out either with a red "X" or a no symbol (red crossed circle).

The problem with that is that is could be interpreted as just "don't use your laptop" rather than the intended meaning of "turn off all electronic devices." A better symbol might be something that shows several different electronic devices, like a laptop, cell phone, and mp3 player, with a red X or circle with a line through it over all of them. But I had the same thought as Viscount724 -- if you tried to cram all that into one symbol it would become way too small to identify easily.


User currently offlineUltimateDelta From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2164 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5333 times:

Maybe they could use a lightning bolt design with the X over it- it implies electricity and would be easy to see.


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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5319 times:

How about the Power button symbology-a vertical stripe through the top of a circle? That one is pretty universal...  


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User currently offlineelbandgeek From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 759 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5306 times:

Quoting jreuschl (Reply 2):
Maybe an outline of an item with buttons with headphones attached?

Or an Apple logo?

Good, then they won't care when I use my zune during takeoff.  


User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5291 times:

Quoting elbandgeek (Reply 7):
Good, then they won't care when I use my zune during takeoff.

Good God, someone actually bought one of those?   



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User currently offlineelbandgeek From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 759 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 5274 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 8):
Good God, someone actually bought one of those?

and what exactly is wrong with them? aside from not being made by apple. it's not like they haven't vastly improved the design since the first model almost 4 years ago, which to be fair, wasn't that pleasant a sight.

(and that's as far as I'll take this to avoid threadjacking)


User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6633 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4895 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 6):
How about the Power button symbology-a vertical stripe through the top of a circle? That one is pretty universal

Perhaps expanding on that idea would be to have the sign light up in red when electronic devices should be turned off, and green when it is safe to have electronic devices turned on. This is similar to the Airbus lavatory signs where red means the lavatory is occupied and green means the lavatory is vacant. However, this could possibly be an issue for people with red-green colorblindness.



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User currently offlinecontrails From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1834 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4442 times:

Nice idea, but pax don't pay attention to the fasten seat belt sign and they don't pay attention to the crew announcements, why would they pay attention to this sign?


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User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2903 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4079 times:
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Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
After all, the problem with text-based signs is that not everyone understands English.

True, which makes the old-fashioned announcements more effective in some ways than trying to solve the problem through technology. In the US, it's not that big of a deal (yet). Elsewhere, the no devices admonition can be delivered over the PA in any language you'd like. No icon required.

On that note, If we're adding symbols for appropriate vs. inappropriate behavior and when it's OK to do certain things onboard, I'd vote for two new lights overhead: a "No morons" sign, followed by a "Yes, this means you" sign. I wonder what these icons would look like?  


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