enilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 6136 posts, RR: 13 Posted (3 years 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6757 times:
This compares what is for sale THIS WEEK for the stated period versus what was for sale LAST WEEK...It does NOT compare to last year or now.
How to read:
ABE-MDT 3>2 APR means a reduction in one roundtrip from 3 to 2 for April only
ABE-MDT 3.8>2.7 APR-JUN This is the raw format of the data which sometimes I'm too lazy to retype. It means that over a month they were averaging a little less than 4 trips per day and now it's a little less than 3 per day. So, basically they cancelled 8 flights per week or so. Airlines are doing A LOT of non-daily ops now, so these fractions are pervasive.
ABE-MDT 4>6 MAY- means an increase from 4 to 6 roundtrips starting in May and continuing
ABE-MDT 4>6 MAY-JUN, 5>6 JUL means the change is only for the stated period May to June and then a different change for July in the same route
Please take it easy on any typos, there was a lot to type...
It's entirely possible I missed this, but are DEC, BRL, and IRK losing air service? IIRC, BRL is an EAS city, DEC has State of Illinois subsidies, and IRK has local subsidies.
FL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1499 posts, RR: 12 Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6551 times:
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 1): Did AA load the LAX-DEN change being discussed in the other thread (2>4)?
There's no change to report because AA made LAX-DEN four daily a while ago by adding two ERDs that start June 10th. The only change on LAX-DEN in August is the plane type, there's no frequency change.
FutureUScapt From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 761 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6536 times:
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 1): Did AA load the LAX-DEN change being discussed in the other thread (2>4)?
Yep; Enilria covers frequency changes in his weekly OAG reports hence the omission of any change of gauge (from mainline to regional or vice versa) where frequency is not affected.
But just to add: ELP-ORD will become all Eagle beginning with the fall schedule change and DFW-CMH and MSY-ORD will become all mainline (no change of frequency for any of the above routes).
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21244 posts, RR: 19 Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6434 times:
Quoting FL787 (Reply 2): There's no change to report because AA made LAX-DEN four daily a while ago by adding two ERDs that start June 10th. The only change on LAX-DEN in August is the plane type, there's no frequency change.
That makes perfect sense; thanks. I missed the add in June.
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flyusairways From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 176 posts, RR: 3 Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6082 times:
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 1): It's entirely possible I missed this, but are DEC, BRL, and IRK losing air service? IIRC, BRL is an EAS city, DEC has State of Illinois subsidies, and IRK has local subsidies.
This article from the Herald-Review may have shed some light on this:
"By the end of this week, travelers should be able to book flights with Air Choice One through online travel agencies Expedia and Kayak, and other providers, such as Orbitz, shouldn’t be too far behind, Novotny said."
I'm assuming 3E dropped the flights from the schedule temporarily to prepare for this switch-over.
All nonstop flights are direct, but not all direct flights are nonstop!
To note, the first time this was loaded AeroMexico did not have DOT approval. It was received last week. It was loaded as a daily MD87, a plane not even in AM's fleet anymore. It is now loaded as a daily ERJ-145.
SJU-SDQ from 7 daily to 4 daily!! Anyone knows the reason about this reduction?
With these changes, 6-7 daily flights are removed, so unless new flights or destinations are announced soon, that surely means that one aircraft will be transfered from SJU to either MIA or DFW.
mah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31118 posts, RR: 73 Reply 13, posted (3 years 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2502 times:
Quoting realsim (Reply 9): SJU-SDQ from 7 daily to 4 daily!! Anyone knows the reason about this reduction? Wow!
With these changes, 6-7 daily flights are removed, so unless new flights or destinations are announced soon, that surely means that one aircraft will be transfered from SJU to either MIA or DFW.
enilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 6136 posts, RR: 13 Reply 14, posted (3 years 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2231 times:
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 1): It's entirely possible I missed this, but are DEC, BRL, and IRK losing air service? IIRC, BRL is an EAS city, DEC has State of Illinois subsidies, and IRK has local subsidies.
Quoting flyusairways (Reply 6): I'm assuming 3E dropped the flights from the schedule temporarily to prepare for this switch-over.
It looked odd because they actually added some day-of-week frequency prior to the cut, but it's what they filed. So who knows what they are up to...
Quoting mah4546 (Reply 7): To note, the first time this was loaded AeroMexico did not have DOT approval. It was received last week. It was loaded as a daily MD87, a plane not even in AM's fleet anymore. It is now loaded as a daily ERJ-145.
Speaking of not knowing what they are up to...so they loaded a schedule without legal approval with an aircraft type not in their fleet? They need to wipe out their scheduling department and hire people some sort of skill.
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 1): Did AA load the LAX-DEN change being discussed in the other thread (2>4)?
I believe they did, but I didn't retrieve that data.
Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 8): It seems rather soon (after the announcement) and far out to make changes already, wonder if thats a mistake...
I doubt it's a mistake because they loaded it in both directions and changed the block times. I agree it's pretty soon. One can only assume the MCO bookings were almost zero compared to FLL.
mah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31118 posts, RR: 73 Reply 15, posted (3 years 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2203 times:
Quoting enilria (Reply 14): Quoting mah4546 (Reply 7):
To note, the first time this was loaded AeroMexico did not have DOT approval. It was received last week. It was loaded as a daily MD87, a plane not even in AM's fleet anymore. It is now loaded as a daily ERJ-145.
Speaking of not knowing what they are up to...so they loaded a schedule without legal approval with an aircraft type not in their fleet? They need to wipe out their scheduling department and hire people some sort of skill.
Selling without approval would the bigger problem. Loading schedules doesn't matter. AM never put the flight up for sale.
Even then, airlines can sell tickets subject to government approval. U.S. carriers do it all the time depending on the country. Dominican Republic approves everything, but takes forever, so ticket sales always start before DR approval. Nothing illegal there, as long as the passengers are made aware that it is still subject to approval.
RL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4537 posts, RR: 13 Reply 16, posted (3 years 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2188 times:
Quoting enilria (Reply 14): I doubt it's a mistake because they loaded it in both directions and changed the block times. I agree it's pretty soon. One can only assume the MCO bookings were almost zero compared to FLL.
What are the new times?
The original plan had 2 aircraft
1 - BDL-FLL-BDL-MCO-FLL
2 - BDL-MCO-BDL-FLL-BDL
so they cant exactly switch it over because the times would near overlap
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