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DL N709DN, N710DN Insect Spraying?  
User currently onlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6500 posts, RR: 55
Posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4912 times:

Hi !

Any idea when the two latest DL 77Ls will get their cabins sprayed so they can be used on the Sydney flight ? I would think it wouldn't be that complicated and would DL more flexability with the 77L fleet.

Thanks!

The777Man


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User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2584 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4570 times:

Hopefully not ferries TATL to LHR for spraying.

User currently offlineaviationbuff08 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 346 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4178 times:

Well My guess is they would do an equipment swap with the 764 that does the ATL-LHR since the 77L has lie flat seats. Though since they use the 77L ATL-FRA, they could send and extra aircraft and then ferry one FRA-LHR.

Another question is how do they keep them current since I believe that each aircraft needs to be resprayed about every 6 months, and the ground time in SYD for the Aircraft is around 3 hours. Which is not enough time to spray them.


User currently onlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6500 posts, RR: 55
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4139 times:

Quoting aviationbuff08 (Reply 2):
the ground time in SYD for the Aircraft is around 3 hours

I think the ground time in SYD has been increased to about 6h so that may be enough time to do the spraying.

The777Man



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User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2584 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3993 times:

On day 1 only, the flight leaves SYD later, giving it a 6:00 ground time if the inbound is on time.

User currently offlinedeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9289 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3949 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 1):
Hopefully not ferries TATL to LHR for spraying.

Still have yet to figure out why you care so much?

Quoting aviationbuff08 (Reply 2):
Well My guess is they would do an equipment swap with the 764 that does the ATL-LHR since the 77L has lie flat seats. Though since they use the 77L ATL-FRA, they could send and extra aircraft and then ferry one FRA-LHR.

Can it be done in FRA?



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User currently onlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6500 posts, RR: 55
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3131 times:

It seems that N709DN is heading to SYD as I write this as DL9761. DL 17 also left tonight so what's the reason for two flights LAX-SYD on 20May ? Did a flight cancel SYD-LAX in the last few days ? I guess N709DN will get sprayed in SYD ?

Thanks !

The777Man



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User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7453 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2865 times:

Maybe that is why DL is using a 77L ATL-FRA ? Kind of over-kill of an -LR.


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User currently offlinetimf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 969 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2780 times:
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Quoting The777Man (Reply 6):
It seems that N709DN is heading to SYD as I write this as DL9761. DL 17 also left tonight so what's the reason for two flights LAX-SYD on 20May ? Did a flight cancel SYD-LAX in the last few days ? I guess N709DN will get sprayed in SYD ?

It is probably for spraying. They did a similar thing a few months ago. This enables them to keep a 77L on the ground for an extra 24 hours for spraying. Over the course of a week, they will rotate several aircraft through SYD and each will spend the night rather than immediately turning back to LAX like they usually do. Once this is complete, there will be a day with two SYD-LAX flights.


User currently onlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6500 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2674 times:

Quoting timf (Reply 8):
t is probably for spraying. They did a similar thing a few months ago. This enables them to keep a 77L on the ground for an extra 24 hours for spraying. Over the course of a week, they will rotate several aircraft through SYD and each will spend the night rather than immediately turning back to LAX like they usually do. Once this is complete, there will be a day with two SYD-LAX flights.

Thanks for the info!

Any idea when N710DN will be sent down there ?

The777Man



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User currently offlineJackbr From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 665 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2334 times:

Why is the spraying necessary on DL flights into SYD?

As far as I know, other than perhaps the FA's spraying the cabin during descent like they do on Hawaiian Airlines, no UA flights are sprayed in Australia?


User currently onlinekiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8544 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2334 times:
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Quoting Jackbr (Reply 10):
As far as I know, other than perhaps the FA's spraying the cabin during descent like they do on Hawaiian Airlines, no UA flights are sprayed in Australia?

I assume that is because the UA aircraft are treated during routine maintenance just like NZ and QF aircraft so that spraying in flight is no longer necessary .



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User currently offlineCV880 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1124 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2095 times:

Quoting The777Man (Reply 6):
It seems that N709DN is heading to SYD as I write this as DL9761. DL 17 also left tonight so what's the reason for two flights LAX-SYD on 20May ? Did a flight cancel SYD-LAX in the last few days ? I guess N709DN will get sprayed in SYD ?

It may be for spraying but the employee website says that it was filled with 81,000lbs of revenue cargo.


User currently onlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6500 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1983 times:

Quoting CV880 (Reply 12):
It may be for spraying but the employee website says that it was filled with 81,000lbs of revenue cargo.

I guess they filled it up with cargo since they were sending the aircraft to SYD for spraying anyways ? I did see a DL 77L taxi in to ICC which where DL's cargo terminal is at LAX. A bit odd for a DL aircraft to taxi in there but now that makes sense. So DL9761/20May did not have any passengers LAX-SYD ?

The777Man



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User currently offlineBlueFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3933 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1853 times:
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Quoting Jackbr (Reply 10):
Why is the spraying necessary on DL flights into SYD?

There are several methods of meeting AQIS' aircraft disinsection requirements. The one chosen by DL requires a residual application every eight weeks, for which there is a limited number of AQIS-accepted vendors around the world, none of them being in the US. If memory serves me well, the closest one from ATL is actually at LHR. So relatively speaking, sending a plane without passengers to SYD to get it done there isn't that much further.

I believe UA chose the pre-embarkation disinsection method, which doesn't require a lengthy residual application, but must be done, as the name implies, before every flight.



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User currently onlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6500 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 1556 times:

DL 9760 flew SYD-LAX-ATL yesterday so I assume that was flown by N709DN ?

The777Man



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