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AA Pulling Out Of SJU Altogether?  
User currently offlineaajfksjubklyn From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 904 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 19896 times:

Has anyone else heard this? My partner who works for AA was informed by a pilot at AA that AA was going to call it quit's in San Juan?

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User currently offlinemtnwest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2458 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 19894 times:

About as likely as WN pulling out of HOU.

As for 'pilot information', that is about as reliable as a $.01 condom...  



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User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11563 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 19862 times:

Quoting aajfksjubklyn (Thread starter):
was informed by a pilot

  

Quoting aajfksjubklyn (Thread starter):
AA was going to call it quit's in San Juan?

Highly doubt it.

SJU still serves a viable, sustainable and unique purpose in the AA network that a) cannot be replicated by any other AA hub, and b) cannot be replicated by any other U.S. airline without its own SJU hub.

Could be wrong, but I doubt we're going to see AA eliminate service - or even the hub in some form - in SJU.


User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7583 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 19854 times:

AA will not call it quits in SJU. That rumor is stupid to put it nicely.


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User currently offlineFlyHossD From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 874 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 19851 times:

Quoting aajfksjubklyn (Thread starter):
Has anyone else heard this? My partner who works for AA was informed by a pilot at AA that AA was going to call it quit's in San Juan?

Highly, highly unlikely. There are some airline employees that love spreading bogus rumors, both to see what reaction they'll get and to see how long it takes for the rumor to get back to them.



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User currently offlineaajfksjubklyn From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 904 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 19714 times:

With B6's interline agreement in place, I suspect the rumor could have been somewhat real. Why is everyone so highly certain they wouldn't though? Hopefully someone on here could confirm. It was truly be sad if this was the case. None the less the AA part of the terminal is pretty depressing since the pullbacks last summer. Its no where near what it was.

User currently offlinessides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 19549 times:

Are you kidding? SJU is a cash cow for AA. The only way AA will be pulling out of SJU is if they liquidate.


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User currently offlineCoachClass From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 19548 times:

A few years ago they ended their 2 or 3 daily flights FLL-SJU. Maybe they'll cede most flights to SJU and operate the AA Eagle for connections. I get the feeling watching AA that the balloon is losing air. There's no excitement, no fizz anymore. No real expansion.

User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13562 posts, RR: 61
Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 19519 times:
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Quoting aajfksjubklyn (Reply 5):
With B6's interline agreement in place, I suspect the rumor could have been somewhat real.

I don't. Why eliminate the SJU operation entirely (one you've built up over the past 20 years) when you can simply 'right-size' your capacity there?

Quoting aajfksjubklyn (Reply 5):
Why is everyone so highly certain they wouldn't though?

Because it's still a good operation for AA, even though it isn't what it used to be. Keep in mind, airlines have tried (and failed) to create at SJU what AA has. They won't simply abandon it to a competitor or group of competitors.



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User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8344 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 19493 times:
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San Juan may no longer be a "hub". AA has a long history in San Juan, they acquired it when they merged with TransCraibean in 1970 or 1971. The Jetblue agreement contains any threat JB can be in teh Caribean, the caribean is important to AA's Miami hub and JFK operations. AA has lots of flights to San Juan important to its Tourism from many non-hub mainland cities and its DFW hub. Highly unlikely to happen.

User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11563 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 19463 times:

Quoting aajfksjubklyn (Reply 5):
With B6's interline agreement in place, I suspect the rumor could have been somewhat real.

What does JetBlue have to do with San Juan?

JetBlue doesn't and can't ever do with or in the place of San Juan what AA currently does there. You can't ever profitably fly an A320 from San Juan to Dominica, for example.

Quoting aajfksjubklyn (Reply 5):
Why is everyone so highly certain they wouldn't though?

Not necessarily "highly certain," but at least "highly doubtful" for the reasons already mentioned. San Juan serves a valuable place in the AA network that cannot be replicated anywhere else. And, in the scheme of things, San Juan is the absolute least of AA's challenges right now.

Quoting CoachClass (Reply 7):
A few years ago they ended their 2 or 3 daily flights FLL-SJU.

Cutting Fort Lauderdale is a lot different than closing the entire hub. Fort Lauderale, like Orlando, was a route where yields had fallen through the floor because of a glut of low-fare competition, and since AA already has tons of capacity from South Florida to San Juan via Miami, it was no longer necessary to waste the resources fighting at Fort Lauderdale.

However, that in no way portends, in my mind, cutting San Juan completely.

When they cancel JFK-San Juan, then we'll talk.

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 8):
Because it's still a good operation for AA, even though it isn't what it used to be.

  


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17450 posts, RR: 46
Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 19327 times:

Quoting ssides (Reply 6):
SJU is a cash cow for AA

I don't know if I'd go that far. In fact I'd be surprised if it's profitable. I bet AA does great beyond SJU, and then loses it all and then some on US-SJU.

[Edited 2010-05-24 10:07:11]


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User currently onlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3474 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 19212 times:

Quoting ssides (Reply 6):
Are you kidding? SJU is a cash cow for AA. The only way AA will be pulling out of SJU is if they liquidate.

It it were a cash cow AA wouldn't be flying their smallest schedule there in over a decade.

Jeremy


User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8344 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 19127 times:
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Quoting commavia (Reply 10):
What does JetBlue have to do with San Juan?

From JFK and BOS, Lots.


User currently offlinebiggsfo From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2920 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 19123 times:

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 12):
It it were a cash cow AA wouldn't be flying their smallest schedule there in over a decade.

Just the opposite. Right sizing their operation makes it more profitable and minimizes risk.


User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11563 posts, RR: 62
Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 18994 times:

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 13):
From JFK and BOS, Lots.

Right, and that means ... what? What does JetBlue flying BOS/JFK-SJU have to do with AA closing their hub there? AA couldn't hand those two core markets over to JetBlue and still maintain a regional network out of SJU.


User currently offlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8326 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 18992 times:

What exactly are we talking about here? SJU is NOT a AA mainline hub. It's a fucus city. It's not that far fetched to see more mainline service "right sized" or transfered to Eagle. MIA is as good a Caribbean hub as SJU is and with the terminal expansion at MIA there's no reason why more Caribbean routes can't be consolidated at MIA. Whether that will actually happen or not is debatable but I certainly don't see it as unlikely as some people here make it seem.

[Edited 2010-05-24 10:47:13]

User currently offlineaa1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3433 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 18967 times:

Quoting commavia (Reply 2):
b) cannot be replicated by any other U.S. airline without its own SJU hub.

I think a hub in the Dominican Republic could match if not beat SJU in terms of size, profitability and other metrics. Give it 5 years!

AA1818



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User currently offlineaajfksjubklyn From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 904 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 18930 times:

Quoting ssides (Reply 6):
SJU is a cash cow for AA.

A cash cow? If it were they would not have cut all the flights they did nearly 2 years ago (apprx 40% of their operation in SJU). I was asking by way of this post if anyone had any concrete information.

SJU is no way a cash cow for AA. Their operation there is a skelaton of what once way, just as the island is becoming...People are not going to Puerto Rico, and when they do, all you hear are nightmares or people unhappy about that experience.


User currently onlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12472 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 18733 times:

Quoting airbazar (Reply 16):
SJU is NOT a AA mainline hub. It's a fucus city.

Is that a Freudian slip?  



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User currently offlinePRAirbus From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2005, 1137 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 18711 times:

I could see AA further reducing SJU and maintaining service to only its hubs or core cities like: SJU-MIA, SJU-JFK, SJU-DFW, SJU-ORD, SJU-LAX; other markets could be "handed over" to jetBlue like BOS. AE would maintain its services from SJU-Caribbean and feed AA flights. That's in case AA and B6 do not merge. What's the obsession with these rumors??? AA could keep right-sizing SJU since its role as a hub is no longer there but maintain it as a focus city. SJU still needs access to daily connections to Europe, Deep South America, etc that other carriers serving SJU cannot offer. IB doesn't fly daily to SJU for example; business people want direct access every day if there's not a nonstop daily. B6 doesn't fly to MIA, AA will not cancel SJU-MIA...I highly doubt this rumor to be true. I could see AA moving to a smaller terminal in SJU or even combining its operations w/B6 (same terminal) in SJU; that would make good sense. Rumor is Crandall was in SJU last week doing some B6 related business...apparently that's when this rumor started. I guess it is blown out of proportion... :O

User currently offlinePRAirbus From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2005, 1137 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 18681 times:

After this summer, CO is drastically reducing service in SJU as well. At least for low season; AUG-NOV. They will operate only 1 SJU-EWR and 1 SJU-IAH (both 738s). Wonder why the reduction and downsizing of equipment. CO has operated up to 5 SJU-EWR and 2 SJU-IAH on 737/757/764s...I think it is a reflection of the economy in Puerto Rico. Hopefully the schedules will go back to normal for Xmas season. Not surprising AA would cut even more. AA has also downsized SDQ.

User currently offlinerealsim From Spain, joined Apr 2010, 645 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 18520 times:

Quoting aajfksjubklyn (Reply 18):
A cash cow? If it were they would not have cut all the flights they did nearly 2 years ago (apprx 40% of their operation in SJU). I was asking by way of this post if anyone had any concrete information.

Although yields are probably low, AA mailine domestic flights from SJU had an average load factor of 86,74% in 2009. With this huge amount of people flying AA (more than 2 million in 2009), I doubt that AA is going to reduce their current routes and frequencies. However, it is true that AA has lost almost a 20% of domestic market share in SJU in only 3 years, in favour of B6.


User currently offlinechepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6216 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 18311 times:

I doubt SJU is a cash cow for AA, however, I doubt we will see AA leave the SJU market. Do you think AA is going to leave the market and let all the other major US carriers (CO,DL, UAL, US) claim vistory over a market which a couple of years ago AA owned. I doubt that, even if it's for prides sake. I can possibly see SJU-MIA/JFK/SDQ only but a complete withdrawal from the market, I think that is unrealistic. Puerto Rico still has alot of AAdavntage members and some people who will not fly on B6, FL and NK and prefer to fly on AA. If they do leave the market entirely it means the Puerto Rican goverment has some homework to do and is a testament of the crummy job they are doing.

Regards,

Chepos

[Edited 2010-05-24 11:52:07]

[Edited 2010-05-24 11:52:34]


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User currently offlinethrufru From Marshall Islands, joined Feb 2009, 224 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 18125 times:

Quoting aa1818 (Reply 17):
I think a hub in the Dominican Republic could match if not beat SJU in terms of size, profitability and other metrics. Give it 5 years!

I'm going to disagree with you there. US carriers creating hubs in foreign countries raises a whole host of issues, the least of which is the issue regarding ICE. Why would any US airline do that when they could more easily operate out of FLL, MIA, or SJU?


25 TOMMY767 : I could see AA eventually dropping BDL/TPA/IAD/PHL/BWI-SJU mainline if these flights are non profitable. AA could then keep the feeder AE service at S
26 LAXdude1023 : There is no way that AA would ever stop flying MIA/JFK/DFW/ORD-SJU under any circumstance.
27 Cubsrule : They likely would have trimmed them (or, in some cases, trimmed them permanently) with the last major round of cuts if they were not performing accep
28 chepos : DFW/ORD can be dropped in a heartbeat, why not? You would just channel the traffic through MIA and I did mentioned MIA/JFK as destinations they would
29 LAXdude1023 : Why would they drop DFW/ORD-SJU? That would be dumb. The local market with minimal connections from DFW is enough to sustain at least one 738 flight
30 Post contains images bohica : First there was a thread about WN being asked to establish a hub in SJU. Now we have a thread about AA pulling out of SJU completely. Does anybody in
31 MaverickM11 : Those are probably some of the stronger SJU-mainland flights since they have relatively little competition, particularly from LCCs.
32 aajfksjubklyn : Well after SJU gave B6 free slots and reduced rates for other slots, AA has and continues to be undermined at SJU. If AA does remove itself from SJU a
33 Post contains images Cubsrule : SJU is not slot controlled.
34 Post contains images airbazar : SJU is a low yielding market composed mostly of VFR traffic and all other majors are not interested in it and have been reducing their presence there
35 aajfksjubklyn : Sorry..I should have said landing fees etc.
36 burnsie28 : If it was such a cash cow why would AA have cut it so much?
37 TOMMY767 : Something with the PR economy suffering over the past few years. In 2008, AA had some pretty extensive cuts to SJU, also with LGA and RDU because of
38 biggsfo : Just won't happen. You seem to want to find someone to corroborate this rumor and you won't. SJU is a key market for AA - the Eagle operation in part
39 LAXdude1023 : I agree with biggsfo. You seem to be looking for someone to tell you that AA will leave SJU as if you want it to happen. You arent going to find anyo
40 DC8FanJet : And low cost carriers like JetBlue & Southwest are more able to profit on this type of traffic as compared to AA.
41 FlyWhisperjets : Did'nt AA become big in SJU after Eastern left the scene.....I know they moved into EA's position in MIA....In the 60's AA never flew to florida.....
42 commavia : Nope. AA's hub in SJU predates MIA by five years - the hub opened in 1986, and operated independent of MIA for years. It had nothing at all to do wit
43 FlyWhisperjets : If you would have read what I said...The 60's.....I was a FA for EA....AA and MIA didnt exist....No silver birds in FLA...only Silver Falcons...
44 chepos : I was working at the SJU station the last week of April and the rumor floating regarding AA was that they were going to replace ramp handling on the m
45 Post contains images FlyWhisperjets : It sure is strange...especially when it will never happen....and I would'nt go as far as to say the whole world wants Southwest...when it comes to th
46 FlyWhisperjets : That is very sad....This world economy really is getting out of control...I hope AA offers relocation packages for those employees....but if you have
47 LAXdude1023 : And this is how rumors gain momentum.
48 PRAirbus : Doubt SWA opening SJU...I hope B6 expands SJU more before SWA sets foot there...jetBlue is a better option; wider planes, IFE, tasty snacks...hip! SWA
49 Post contains images wn700driver : Quite correct. Where I work is much smaller than a major, but we all still have a great time playing the old "Let's see how long I can keep a straigh
50 787KQ : In year's past, SJU was truly a Caribbean hub. It seems AA has in many instances decided to bypass it preferring to use MIA. There are now few mainlin
51 AirNovaBAe146 : That is a little too much rumor. Most major airline employee groups have contracts that stipulate that mainline employees must handle mainline aircra
52 einsteinboricua : The hub is no longer there. One of AA's latest press releases confirmed that SJU is not a hub anymore. All the more reason for them to pull out and s
53 EA CO AS : Yes. AA had a good operation at SJU, in the very late 80s but it really blossomed once EA folded. No, EA was the dominant carrier in the JFK-SJU mark
54 chepos : That is not true, US Airways for example- eliminated all ramp positions at mainline stations such as OMA and ANC just to name two stations (I believe
55 einsteinboricua : I wouldn't be surprised if GMD took over all ground operations. Heck, they already work for many airlines.
56 commavia : It is a hub in the traditional sense of the word, if not for marketing purposes - it handles lots of connections between lots of cities, and has time
57 787KQ : A hub with few spokes is likely to be unprofitable. De-hub it and watch it die, except for O&D. Anyone have statistics?
58 EA CO AS : November, 1986 - several months after EA nearly filed for Chapter 11 and was subsequently sold to Texas Air Corporation. AA was being opportunistic a
59 Post contains images Prinair : AA pulling out of SJU is as real as Prinair resuming flights.....
60 commavia : Not necessarily. If we were talking about some small U.S. domestic hub with huge metro hubs nearby, the above applies. But not necessarily to SJU. Mu
61 aviateur : As a pilot, I am afraid I have to sympathize. And thus, as a pilot, allow me to offer my own rumors/predictions in keeping with the idea of AA pullin
62 EA CO AS : What intra-Caribbean flights was AA operating that EA did not? EA's SJU hub offered plenty of intra-Caribbean flying.
63 commavia : As of April 1987 - out of peak season for the Caribbean, mind you - AA/Eagle had flights from SJU to Antigua, Aruba, Mayaguez, Pointe-a-Pitre, Ponce,
64 jfklganyc : "AA was the dominant airline on JFK-SJU for decades - going back to the 1971 Trans Caribbean merger and all the way through JetBlue's expansion in the
65 mah4546 : AA is never leaving SJU. There, I said it. AA is not shrinking at all. The mainline fleet will actually grow, since AA is no longer replacing 738s wi
66 jfklganyc : "AA is not shrinking at all. The mainline fleet will actually grow, since AA is no longer replacing 738s with S80s 1:1, along with 23 new planes for E
67 Post contains images Jacobin777 : I guess its along the same comments of "is AA going to quit Chicago?" as well.. ...
68 TOMMY767 : Don't forget about downsizing RDU. AA sized up to a pretty good focus city through 2008. Also technically AUS and FLL were failed Mid-2000s focus cit
69 United787 : Does SJU compete too much with MIA? It seems like AA could do everything that SJU does, out of MIA instead... I think SJU could be better served by an
70 SYfan100 : Don't forget though SanJuan has picked up a ton of seasonal Airline traffic I would take a guess that is Nonstop and not threw Miami or Dallas to othe
71 8b775zq : SJU service was reduced due to the fact that AA now flies directly to most caribbean islands directly from MIA and JFK mainly. The other cities can co
72 413X3 : They have a large 737 fleet, so I would call that a replacement for something... I believe SJU is a large hub but mainly for cargo. Isn't that the re
73 mah4546 : Shrinking, in your own words, implies in the present. AA is presently not shrinking, but rather adding capacity very, very slowly at only around 1% c
74 hiflyer : BNA SJC STL already why not SJU? The Carib market is more a one class tourist destination anyway.
75 einsteinboricua : More like downsized. They still operate a handful of flights. Didn't they return them/lease them to DL?
76 jfklganyc : "Didn't they return them/lease them to DL?" Sure Did. Delta in turn used them at JFK to blow right past AA and formally cement themselves as the carri
77 Post contains images airbazar : There's more to making an airport a hub than scheduling flights in banks. Besides, SJU is an Eagle hub, not a mainline hub. You'd be hard pressed to
78 commavia : Like what? An airline hub - in the purest sense of the word - is a connecting complex, or series of connecting complexes, where flights arrive and de
79 WA707atMSP : I've been to Puerto Rico twice, and I had a wonderful time on both trips. I found all of the Puerto Ricans I came in contact with to be friendly, and
80 Post contains images aajfksjubklyn : Good to hear this from you!
81 aajfksjubklyn : I own a second home there, I was not referring to the people in any way shape or form. I was referring to the cleanliness of the tourist areas and th
82 hiflyer : Further note....the retirement of the A300 from AA impacted the SJU and the adjacent markets far more than B6 or NK or anyone else coming in. 1 While
83 biggsfo : The OP is implying that AA could possibly leave San Juan altogether. I wouldn't argue that more reductions could happen, but as for AA leaving San Ju
84 airbazar : No, that describes Eagles's operations at SJU. You need crew, you need maintenance, you need handling, etc, etc, etc... In a non-hubs it's a lot chea
85 commavia : Right, and since AA mainline and Eagle are owned by the same company, and share the same money, it is the same thing. I don't see the need to make th
86 chepos : I doubt we will see LHR/LGW - SJU on BA, the market is not really there even with a AA/BA/IB ATI. MAD exist because of cultural ties with Spain and th
87 Post contains images PRAirbus : SJU/LGW/LHR has been tried in the past; BC DC10s, BA 747/D10/L10 and simply there's is "no market". PR has no ties with Britain and the absence of all
88 Prinair : BR (British Caledonian) serviced SJU as a stop on their twice weekly LGW-SJU-CCS route. I believe they later extended the route to BOG. I have to chec
89 Post contains images airbazar : Then we'll agree to disagree For me American Eagle is not the same airline as American Airlines even if both have the same parent company. It's like
90 commavia : Well, for me, since AA and Eagle are not only owned by the same company - but always marketed together with both brands used jointly and promoted - i
91 Post contains images realsim : It is better to increase the number of weekly freq. between MAD and SJU (currently 3/wk), than starting a new non-stop link between LON and SJU, beca
92 airbazar : If Delta calls it a hub then it is a hub. If Delta doesn't call it a hub then it's not a hub. AA doesn't call SJU a hub, it calls it a Focus City. AA
93 Cubsrule : Maybe not - but why does it matter? What AA and OW call it doesn't affect my ability to fly BDL-SJU-SDQ or my ability not to fly PHL-SJU-AUA or STL-S
94 commavia : Okay well, I guess, indeed, therein lies the difference. I'm not going by the marketing. To me, a hub means lots of flights with lots of connecting p
95 einsteinboricua : I'd have to disagree, especially when the only network AA has here is with American Eagle servicing the smaller Caribbean islands. You can do that fr
96 Prinair : They operated passenger flights although most of them were charters. KLM did serve the island (back in the late 90s) for a while also using the MD11.
97 biggsfo : My point wasn't the value of San Juan as a "hub" to AAs network, but rather it is a significant destination that is important to AA's overall Latin A
98 commavia : False. You couldn't profitably serve Tortola, Anguilla, Dominica, Pointe-a-Pitre, Fort-de-France, St. Lucia-Castries, etc. either profitably or at al
99 biggsfo : Agreed. And it is not outside the realm of possibilities that AA returns to this market once they have a more competitive cost structure. Of course w
100 Post contains images airbazar : That's fine just don't buy a F ticket 'cause you won't see one on an Eagle plane By your definition any city served by AA/Eagle is a hub because you
101 Post contains images airbazar : That's correct. Those would be very long routes in a prop plane and you'd better hope they float However I think the time will come for longer range
102 Cubsrule : But I can't buy an F ticket on STL-ORD-BDL or STL-DFW-HOU either. Does that mean that ORD and DFW are not AA hubs?
103 surfandsnow : AA may have made some pretty drastic cuts when the economy tanked, but remember that a lot of that capacity (both mainline and Eagle) was quickly res
104 DFWEagle : It is absurd to try and classify SJU as exclusively an Eagle hub. The hub is structured in such a way that both carriers are required and both are es
105 Prinair : At this poing on this thread..... What the hell does it matter if SJU is a mainline or eagle hub? What a waste of energy and time.....
106 Post contains images commavia : Well, that's sort of a moot point, though, since many of the markets we're talking about here will never have the infrastructure required to support
107 contrails15 : Without getting into too many details due to me being employed by Jetblue, we tapped into AA mail and cargo for the JFK-SJU route, can't say for BOS-
108 jfklganyc : A buddy at Eagle told me there will be a major reduction in Eagle flying announced by AA. A bunch of ATRs will be moved to DFW and MIA. Another blow t
109 surfandsnow : Who, LIAT? Don't expect B6, FL, NK, or WN to magically fill the void left behind by Eagle if indeed more is cut. None of those airlines would be inte
110 angelmonsteral : If this happens i dont know what the puertorrican travelers are going to do.AA is the airline that most helps puertorricans they got 25 flights per da
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