Capt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1604 times:
Flight to Providenciales routes via Nassau with a three-class B767:
"British Airways launches the first and only scheduled service from the UK to the Turks and Caicos.
The Boeing 767 service will fly on Sundays to and from Providenciales, the islands’ main resort, via Nassau. It will be operated with a three cabin configuration, offering First,
Club World and World Traveller.
Price for return flights start from £507.00 including all taxes fees and charges.
The 40 islands, of which only eight are inhabited are located in the North Atlantic Ocean 575 miles southeast of Miami. The main islands consist of two groups - the Turks group, which includes the capital Grand Turk and Salt Cay; and the Caicos group, which includes West Caicos and Providenciales.
The islands are well known for their beautiful deserted beaches, marine life and watersports. Accommodation ranges from five star resorts, all-inclusive resorts, private villas to small inns.
The islands are amongst the fastest growing tourist destinations in the Caribbean, with visitor arrivals last year up 27 per cent. It is particularly popular for honeymoons and luxury holidays, in addition there is demand from business passengers as the islands are a centre for financial services.
More information on the Turks and Caicos islands, can be found on the Official Website of the Turks and Caicos Tourist Board : www.interknowledge.com/turks-caicos"
TWAneedsNOhelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1543 times:
The Turks & Caicos are islands are not the Caymans. The Cayman Islands are far south of the T&C's and politically completely different. The Cayman Islands are an independent country tied to the UK commonwealth (much like the Bahamas) whereas the Turks & Caicos Islands are still a British Protectorate.
Capt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1529 times:
I too, am slightly surprised at BA's decision to take this route up; I sincerely hope this is not another "boom & bust" destination, as the others now being axed, were; one also wonders whether the route is viable, given it is only being flown once a week.
Considering BA have vowed to chase premium customers & their credit cards, it would seem that the difference between flying to these destinations, and axing them later, is a pretty close-cut affair-any reduction in the number of premium travellers on these flights (whether seasonal or otherwise) will quickly hurt BA where it matters; perhaps PLS will turn out to be another Barbados, in terms of pax yields.
The flights are indeed from LGW; the flight number outbound is BA2253, departing at 1010, arriving PLS at 1730.
Rtn is BA2252, departing PLS at 1910, arriving at Gatwick at 1110, the morning after.
BA had realised what a huge mistake it was to charter a/c with such tightly-packed configurations-they were not commensurate with the standard BA product-and were an embarrassment to operate, in that sense; they are now slowly being withdrawn (or reconfigured).
Let's see how long it takes before they change their mind again!
PanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 9 Reply 5, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1524 times:
I was there in late May on a Delta 738 (they just started their service down there. A 767 is going to really strain their airport, get ready for a loooong wait. A 777 would just be almost impossible for that airport to handle.
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BY291A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1518 times:
Living near MAN, I cannot believe that this route would make more than MAN-LAX or MAN-SFO. Come on BA, get real, I know you have some sort of aversion to Manchester, but if you give it a go it might just work...
Crosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2592 posts, RR: 59 Reply 9, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1494 times:
This route does seem a very strange choice for British Airways, especially when they claim to be focusing on yield, why would they want to start a route for tourists?
BA are flying to Providenciales because there is no competition. There are very few options open for people to get to Providenciales from the UK - BA can set the fares at the highest level the market will support. The route and will probably make a very healthy profit, especially since it is operated as a plane share with a Nassau service, which will provide the bulk of the passenger numbers.
And yes CP,
The "charter" 777s are being reconfigured with the new 4 class cabins and destinations like Cancun that cannot support a full 4-Class operation are being dropped.
Capt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1479 times:
Thank you for your info xwind; I beleive you are right, as regards the stopover in Nassau, as well as the lack of competition-reading the press release, BA also appear to beleive they will generate high yields i.e.
"It is particularly popular for honeymoons and luxury holidays, in addition there is demand from business passengers as the islands are a centre for financial services."
Airpearl From Malaysia, joined May 2001, 936 posts, RR: 28 Reply 11, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1455 times:
With this route, BA would seem to me to have some strange and conflicting priorities. Here in KUL, they have just terminated their service after 50 years of operations, where there has been a strong following in both First and Club classes, citing unprofitability... and on the other hand, they fly a once weekly 767 to the Turks and Caicos.
What next.... Easter Island?
Aussie_ From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 1766 posts, RR: 5 Reply 12, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1447 times:
At least Easter Island can handle a 767-300!!!
A little off topic but...
I flew Lan Chile there in Jan (not much choice on the airline!!) on my way from Australia-Santiago. I highly recommend it and though AirPearl's comment was probably meant in jest, one day someone intelligent will fly planes from there to Japan or the USA and make quite a bit (charter rather than multi-class configuration though).
I was stunned to see how a Tahiti-Easter Island flight could be packed out, all with tourists wanting to see the Island, and many of whom had undertaken long trips with complex itineraries at high cost to get there...
Maybe BA is just cashing in on a similar sort of opportunity.
Capt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1442 times:
Having studied Spanish academically a few years ago (it is a native tongue of mine), I had always wanted to visit Easter Island-we had various posters up in our classroom, of those magnificent omnipotent-looking faces carved in rock-staring out towards the distance; did they look impressive?
Trintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3211 posts, RR: 4 Reply 14, posted (12 years 6 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1419 times:
BA knows what is doing, I think. The Turks & Caicos is known as an upper-end tourist resort catering to the wealthy visitors, both for leisure and for business. With adequate promotion the route should do very well. The comparison with Barbados, with its large upper-end market too, is thus appropriate.
BTW, the Cayman Islands are not independent, TWA. They are a British Overseas Territory just like the Turks and Caicos and Bermuda. The Bahamas, on the other hand, is fully independent but retains the Queen as Head of State (ie it is not a republic).