AVLAirlineFreq From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 1168 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6288 times:
As stage lengths on regional jets get longer and their frequency increases on routes that were previously the domain of mainline equipment (I was twice on an ERJ this week for a 2+ hour flight), is there any chance we'll see WiFi on regional jets in the future?
I appreciate that the per-flight economics may not currently work with an average customer base of 50 passengers per flight (and given the typical short stage length of an RJ flight, many of those same passengers may not be willing to ante up). Is there any chance that the economics would ever work? Are there any technical reasons why WiFi wouldn't be feasible on a CRJ or ERJ?
AirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3723 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6279 times:
I'd rather see comfort on a RJ before WiFi. I think FL said it cost them $100,000 per plane to equip it with WifFi. With the way regional operators swap fleets around I cannot see them making an investment like that in their fleets.
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FRNT787 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1338 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6154 times:
Frontier Airlines will have it on all E170 and E190 aircraft. As to comfort the E170 and E190 have seats very similar to the A320s and the same legroom to boot. The E145s and CRJs are a different story though.
Depending on your definition of Regional Jet though, you will start seeing it this year with Frontier.
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The seats may not be the F9 green leather, however they are as FRNT787 stated they are as comfortable as any mainliner I have been on. And I have been on many of them. The E-170/190's that are now in the F9 fleet were set up to the YX standards and they are very nice seats.
I miss the 60's & 70's when you felt like a guest on the plane not cattle like today
elbandgeek From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 761 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5759 times:
I see no reason why the CR7/9s and EJets won't get it eventually considering they fly alot of routes longer than some mainline. If AC can put PTVs on them, I don't see why wifi couldn't work. I could imagine (for example) DL trialing it with CP OH and XJ and seeing how it goes and then later on figure out installing it on the contracted flying.
hatbutton From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1510 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (5 years 1 month 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5451 times:
Quoting AirTran737 (Reply 1): I think FL said it cost them $100,000 per plane to equip it with WifFi.
Is it really that much? I seem to remember AS saying we went with Gogo because once you had the deal with them, it cost almost nothing to install the system on the plane. There are a couple small antennas on the bottom of the aircraft and a few other things. Wouldn't think it'd cost $100k.
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7945 posts, RR: 27
Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3559 times:
50 seaters - most likely not.
- Less passengers to spread costs / less market potential
- Shorter stage length of flights (yes there are a number of 2+ hour flights on RJs but that vast majority are still on flights where the actual usable time above 10,000 ft is less than 30 minute
- Cabin ergonomics make it difficult to even use a laptop and/or view the screen on the 50 seat RJs
2-Class RJ's - maybe
- Likely the 2-class RJs that fly longer stage lengths may see wifi
- Depending on who owns the airframes and who is going to pay for the installation
airbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 9160 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3515 times:
Quoting hatbutton (Reply 9): Is it really that much? I seem to remember AS saying we went with Gogo because once you had the deal with them, it cost almost nothing to install the system on the plane. There are a couple small antennas on the bottom of the aircraft and a few other things. Wouldn't think it'd cost $100k.
The hardware may be cheap but the labor isn't. It's like when you take your car to the garage to replace a $30 water pump and in the end you're presented with a $600 bill )