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QF Confirm International Equipment Upgrades  
User currently offlinetayser From Australia, joined Mar 2008, 1130 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 16119 times:

rehashing news that's been reported on here, but it's straight from the horse's mouth this time, with extra tidbits:

http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/dyn.../details?ArticleID=2010/may10/4074

summary:

SYD-SIN-LHR-SIN-SYD daily A380 upon delivery of 7th plane (Q4 2010).
MEL-SIN-LHR-SIN-MEL daily A380 upon delivery of 10th plane (by March 2011)
MEL-LAX-MEL 6x weekly A380 upon delivery of 10th plane (by March 2011)
SYD-JNB-SYD 6x weekly -> daily in September
SYD-MNL-SYD 4x weekly 767 -> 4x weekly A330
6 new European codeshare cities with BA: LHR-FCO-LHR, LHR-MXP-LHR, LHR-TLS-LHR, LHR-BUD-LHR, LHR-WAW-LHR, LHR-PRG-LHR

see link for full media release.

[Edited 2010-05-31 02:45:07]

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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4906 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 15423 times:

Quoting tayser (Thread starter):
6 new European codeshare cities with BA: LHR-FCO-LHR, LHR-MXP-LHR, LHR-TLS-LHR, LHR-BUD-LHR, LHR-WAW-LHR, LHR-PRG-LHR

Sick of codesharing agreements... When will QF operate to destinations such as FCO, MXP with its own metal... I will answer my own question... Never... Unless JQ can help it!

EK413



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User currently onlinejrfspa320 From Australia, joined Sep 2005, 240 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 15288 times:

So will that mean SYD-HNL and PER-NRT will be the only flights left with 767? Are there any plans for their replacement? As they are very long flights for an inferior product.

User currently offlinevulindlela744 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 520 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 13657 times:

Does anyone know if LAX-SYD is a daily A380 yet???

User currently offline777KLM From China, joined Apr 2005, 530 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 12965 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 1):
Unless JQ can help it!

And JQ will...



Next flight: AMS-PEK
User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4635 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 12863 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 1):
Sick of codesharing agreements... When will QF operate to destinations such as FCO, MXP with its own metal... I will answer my own question... Never... Unless JQ can help it!

What, operate an unprofitable route? QF would never do so... so yes, JQ will do it  



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3289 posts, RR: 45
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 12360 times:

Quoting vulindlela744 (Reply 3):
Does anyone know if LAX-SYD is a daily A380 yet???

They advertise QF11 as a daily A380, but it looks like they've downgraded the Saturdays to a 747-400 over the summer. I experienced that on May 15th. The Qantas Source shows the 8th, 18th, 22nd, and 29th of May all being operated by 747-400s.

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineZuluAlpha From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 399 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 10874 times:

Quoting tayser (Thread starter):
SYD-SIN-LHR-SIN-SYD daily A380 upon delivery of 7th plane (Q4 2010).
MEL-SIN-LHR-SIN-MEL daily A380 upon delivery of 10th plane (by March 2011)

Interesting how the announcement goes from the 7th delivery in Q4 2010 to the 10 by March 2011. Does anyone know of the delivery schedule for the plane numbers 8 and 9?

It is going to be a busy little period inbetween.

Quoting 777KLM (Reply 4):
And JQ will...

  


Like all the other previous threads, with Jetstar Asia getting it's own, dedicated fleet of A332's start seeing flights to continental Europe



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User currently offlinetim From Australia, joined Jun 2000, 705 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 9922 times:

It certainly is a horrible Y & J product on the Perth - Japan and Sydney - Hawaii services. 10 hours in a 763 was long gone for most airlines in the mid - late 90's!

Cheers

Tim


User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8531 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 9889 times:
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Looking forward to seeing QF 380's a day @ LHR!

Nice upgrade for MNL too.



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4906 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 9588 times:

Quoting 777KLM (Reply 4):
And JQ will...

Yes they certainly will with ATH and FCO already on the cards...

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 5):
What, operate an unprofitable route? QF would never do so... so yes, JQ will do it

I agree... Hopefully this isn't a take over of the main routes which QF operate...

Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 7):
Like all the other previous threads, with Jetstar Asia getting it's own, dedicated fleet of A332's start seeing flights to continental Europe

When is the dedicated A330 fleet due to arrive?

EK413



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User currently offlinegemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5635 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 9438 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 10):
Quoting 777KLM (Reply 4):
And JQ will...

Yes they certainly will with ATH and FCO already on the cards

At this time JQ IS NOT planning to operate to FCO, ATH, etc! 3K is planning to do so. 3K is Jetstar Asia, a Singaporian airline, which is 49% owned by QF. It will NOT be offering through service from Australia, even via JQ (as per press release)



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User currently offlineeta unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2077 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 9080 times:

Sititng in a worn out QF 763 down the back SYD-HNL is still more pleasurable than sitting in a newish JQ 330. Of course, an HA 763 with new interior is very nice...

User currently offlineMarcoPoloWorld From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 639 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 8838 times:

Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 7):
Interesting how the announcement goes from the 7th delivery in Q4 2010 to the 10 by March 2011. Does anyone know of the delivery schedule for the plane numbers 8 and 9?

Well, I believe the press release details that:

"At present, two return services between Melbourne and London via Singapore each week are operated by the Qantas A380. This will increase to five services a week after Qantas’ eighth A380 is delivered, six services a week after its ninth is delivered and daily services when its tenth A380 arrives. Melbourne-Los Angeles services operated by the A380 will increase to four a week with the delivery of Qantas’ ninth A380 and to six a week after its tenth is delivered. "

Although this deployment of the additional four A380 frames makes sense, it's a bit anticlimactic, as there are no new A380 routes involved, but merely a matter of filling in frequencies. Will be interesting to see what frames #11 and #12 might bring.....


User currently offlineTN486 From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 921 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8497 times:

Quoting MarcoPoloWorld (Reply 13):
Well, I believe the press release details that:
Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 7):
Interesting how the announcement goes from the 7th delivery in Q4 2010 to the 10 by March 2011. Does anyone know of the delivery schedule for the plane numbers 8 and 9?

The Press release does not detail when ac numbers 8 and 9 arrive, other than giving a 6 month period of expected arrival.
I asked the same question in the Australian Thread when the OP of this thread brought the press release to the attention of all and sundry in the Australian Thread. I was hoping a QF insider could shed a little light on the matter.



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User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3325 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8366 times:

Quoting gemuser (Reply 11):
It will NOT be offering through service from Australia, even via JQ (as per press release)

I find this hard to believe, considering that the brand already sell through-flights between 3K and JQ, particularly on PER/SIN/XXX


User currently offlineMarcoPoloWorld From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 639 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 8148 times:

Quoting TN486 (Reply 14):
The Press release does not detail when ac numbers 8 and 9 arrive, other than giving a 6 month period of expected arrival.
I asked the same question in the Australian Thread when the OP of this thread brought the press release to the attention of all and sundry in the Australian Thread. I was hoping a QF insider could shed a little light on the matter.

I guess it doesn't really matter at this point; the general delivery schedule is precise enough at this point.

Also important to note: QF deliberately deferred delivery of these additional birds, two of which have been sitting in TLS collecting dust since last fall.


User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12430 posts, RR: 37
Reply 17, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7669 times:

Quoting MarcoPoloWorld (Reply 16):
Also important to note: QF deliberately deferred delivery of these additional birds, two of which have been sitting in TLS collecting dust since last fall.

Is this due to seating problems?


User currently offlineZuluAlpha From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 399 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 7118 times:

Quoting MarcoPoloWorld (Reply 16):
Also important to note: QF deliberately deferred delivery of these additional birds, two of which have been sitting in TLS collecting dust since last fall

Agreed. A little birdy told me the same thing

Quoting kaitak (Reply 17):
Is this due to seating problems

What are these Seating problems?

Quoting EK413 (Reply 10):
When is the dedicated A330 fleet due to arrive

There was a previous thread, and a previous press release (can't remember if it was from JQ or QF ) that they were planning to start flights to Continental Europe before the end of this year (please correct me if I am wrong).

Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 15):
Quoting gemuser (Reply 11):

I find this hard to believe, considering that the brand already sell through-flights between 3K and JQ, particularly on PER/SIN/XXX

I'm going to be quite particular here. Yes, it 'sells' through flights. but the equipment itself will be a JQ opperated euquipment ex PER (Australian (VH-) registered) and from SIN to XXX will be a 3K opperated equipmentt (Singapore (9V) registered). Kinda like say you fly ex PER on QF71 through to SIN the connex to QF320 (opps by BA through to LHR )

[Edited 2010-06-01 00:26:57]

[Edited 2010-06-01 00:30:37]


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User currently offlinegemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5635 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6786 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 17):
Quoting MarcoPoloWorld (Reply 16):
Also important to note: QF deliberately deferred delivery of these additional birds, two of which have been sitting in TLS collecting dust since last fall.
Is this due to seating problems?

No, basically cash flow or anticipated cash flow problems. Now out of storage.

Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 18):
Quoting MarcoPoloWorld (Reply 16):
Also important to note: QF deliberately deferred delivery of these additional birds, two of which have been sitting in TLS collecting dust since last fall
Agreed. A little birdy told me the same thing

This was MSN 47 (VH-OQG Charles Ulm) & 50 (VH-OQH Reginald Ansett). Both have been removed from storage. MSN 47 flew to Hamburg for cabin outfitting on 27 May and is due for delivery in Q4/2010. MSN 50 is still in TLS and is due to go to Hamburg in June for delivery in Q1/11.

Gemuser



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User currently offlineTN486 From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 921 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6482 times:

Quoting MarcoPoloWorld (Reply 16):
I guess it doesn't really matter at this point; the general delivery schedule is precise enough at this point.

Also important to note: QF deliberately deferred delivery of these additional birds, two of which have been sitting in TLS collecting dust since last fall.

Yes, I agree, I do not want to be seen as being pedantic about the issue, the only reason I was looking for a more precise timetable is because I was aware, as you quite correctly pointed out, that they are the two delayed birds, with as yet, a not too precise expected delivery  



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User currently offlineTN486 From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 921 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6422 times:

Quoting gemuser (Reply 19):
This was MSN 47 (VH-OQG Charles Ulm) & 50 (VH-OQH Reginald Ansett). Both have been removed from storage. MSN 47 flew to Hamburg for cabin outfitting on 27 May and is due for delivery in Q4/2010. MSN 50 is still in TLS and is due to go to Hamburg in June for delivery in Q1/11.

Gemuser, thank you  



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User currently offlineZuluAlpha From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 399 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6422 times:

Quoting gemuser (Reply 19):

Thank you for the info gemuser   



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User currently offlineTN486 From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 921 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (4 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 6138 times:

Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 18):
There was a previous thread, and a previous press release (can't remember if it was from JQ or QF ) that they were planning to start flights to Continental Europe before the end of this year (please correct me if I am wrong).

I suspect this is the press release you are referring to:
www.jetstar.com/au/en/about-us/news.aspx and click on the 12 May link.

Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 7):
Like all the other previous threads, with Jetstar Asia getting it's own, dedicated fleet of A332's start seeing flights to continental Europe

   as per the quoted source above. Interesting to note that they are in quote "discussion with several airports" unquote, it doesnt necessarily say they are European airports.
From my reading of the situation, QF and/or JQ metal to SIN then 3K onward (as others have stated). So where are some the first 789's going to go?? 3K?? (ouch,that hurt  



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4906 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5776 times:

Quoting gemuser (Reply 11):
At this time JQ IS NOT planning to operate to FCO, ATH, etc! 3K is planning to do so. 3K is Jetstar Asia, a Singaporian airline, which is 49% owned by QF. It will NOT be offering through service from Australia, even via JQ (as per press release)

Thanks for clarifying the error but aren't JQ and 3K part of the QantasGroup...?

           

EK413



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25 gemuser : I am pretty sure that 3K cannot "officially" be part of the Qantas Group because it can't be part of the Group accounts. I am totally sure that, bein
26 LAXintl : Its upGAUGE not upgrade. The only thing being upgraded are some frequencies as the Qantas press release mentions.
27 6thfreedom : The media release clearly says that the 3K A330s will also operate to Australia: "The first time launch of value based long haul flying in this marke
28 EK413 : That would certainly raise the question 'why' was the Asia title dropped off the JetStar Asia fleet? EK413
29 AirNiugini : If 10 A380s allow for SYD - LHR, MEL - LHR, SYD - LAX daily and MEL - LAX 6 weekly, #11 and #12 may be used to upgrade QF107/108 to LAX, or maybe QF1
30 gemuser : According to a QF staffer in the current Australian Aviation thread it won't be 107/108, which was the expected route. He seems pretty certain it'll
31 Baroque : Can anyone tell me how to find the plane type on particular routes. Someone gave me a link last year but it no longer works. I am keen not to "find" a
32 AirNiugini : Oh ok... QF29/30 to London is only 4 weekly... Are they thinking about making it a daily?
33 gemuser : It's actually, NOMINALLY, daily, but has been temporially reduced due to the GFC. So I would expect it to gradually go back to daily, might take some
34 ZuluAlpha : Agreed, deffo 3K (9V-) registered aircraft, but extremely unlikely see a JQ (VH-) registered aircraft on the SIN ATH (but QF does has it's own rights
35 Post contains links and images Sydscott : http://a380production.com/ All your questions can be answered here.
36 TN486 : If travelling QF, select your itinerary, then click on the flight numbers within your itinerary, a dropdown box gives you ac type, meals and fight du
37 Post contains images EK413 : I believe QF will introduce the A380 on the QF1 SYD-BKK-LHR route in 2013.. Keep my fingers crossed! Either QF1 SYD-BKK-LHR or QF29 MEL-HKG-LHR... EK
38 TN486 : Tis a great site, one learns something new every day, thanks mate.
39 N14AZ : Is it certain that MSN 050 will not be delivered this year? I am asking because MSN 050 is one of those mystic A 380s, which would enable Airbus to d
40 Post contains links Baroque : Thanks. Had not found that bit of trickery. Sort of workds too!!. Sort of because, for some odd reason, QF31 refused to show but all the others do. I
41 UA772IAD : Unfortunately... It's not so much the aircraft, as it is the seat. Y pitch is terrible on the 767 and the business class product is so outdated. I do
42 ClassicLover : I was speaking to the guy who runs this - apparently there is some issue with the hosting at the moment, so the site is offline temporarily. I believ
43 gemuser : The short answer is: who knows? If Airbus is motivated enough to really put the effort in, it would seem to be possible. Cabin outfitting seems to be
44 N14AZ : That's what I thought as well. If they ferry MSN 050 to Hamburg in June 2010 they surely want to deliver it in 2010 (if they manage is of course anot
45 Post contains images TN486 : Please refer to my post Number 124 in the current Australian Thread re this matter. Nope, wallpaper is better!
46 Post contains images Baroque : Hope he succeeds Aha, yes indeed. All true, it was a super site. Hope it returns better than ever as they say! No room on the walls, they are covered
47 FRAspotter : Any news if QF 6/5 FRA-SIN-SYD will eventually be upgraded to an A380 (obviously as more are delivered)?
48 gemuser : Nobody outside QF fleet planning really knows, and maybe not even there, but has to be a candidate for frames 13-20, the 2.5 class ones (J, Y+, Y). T
49 Sydscott : I'd say the 2.5 class A380's would end up on SYD-BKK-LHR, SYD-SIN-FRA and then a mix of MEL-HKG-LHR and SYD-JNB.
50 thegeek : Which makes lots of sense. Notice how they retimed some of the flights into HKG to connect with QF29 to LHR, but didn't do anything about the other d
51 ditzyboy : Yes, in various employee communications.
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