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What About A New Airline Alliance?  
User currently offline777KLM From China, joined Apr 2005, 532 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2523 times:

=Maybe this has been posted before, but I couldn't find it in the forum history=

I was thinking and would a new, fourth 'big' airline alliance be possible?
There are still a lot of carriers out there without an alliance, that could easily form a big alliance with worldwide presence. Examples are VS (and other Virgin airlines), AB, AR, AS, EK, EY and MH. I realise they already have ties with airlines that are already in an alliance, but still... what are the chances?

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User currently offlinevgnatl747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1515 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2375 times:

I don't see another one happening (at least not any time soon). I don't think you'll ever see an airline like EK join an alliance; they've proven over time that they don't really need to.

I think we'll see more and more reciprocal work happen within the Virgin empire, but a formal alliance would be met with a lot of opposition I think. Just look at the issues Virgin America went through with the argument that they were controlled by a foreign entity. I think it'd be pretty hard to setup a real alliance for the Virgin brand to cover the globe; but oh how cool it would be.



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User currently offlineDelimit From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 1513 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2324 times:

It would be a joke. Honestly. There just aren't enough unaligned major airlines left.

User currently offlinePacNWjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 980 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2321 times:

I could be wrong, but it would seem unlikely that an alliance could survive without a strong presence in North America which Alaska is not in a position to fill, and a dense route network in Europe which the Virgin group cannot provide at present. Malaysia's presence in Asia also seems a bit too skimpy to fit the bill.

User currently offlineYULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2185 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2239 times:

Quoting Delimit (Reply 2):
There just aren't enough unaligned major airlines left.

Right, but we do see airlines switching alliances once in a while (MX, CO to name two), so all it takes is 1 or 2 big airlines leaving their alliance and we may have a sufficient starting number.

Re EY and EK in the same alliance, i don't see that happening at all.... Either one.

Quoting PacNWjet (Reply 3):
I could be wrong, but it would seem unlikely that an alliance could survive without a strong presence in North America which Alaska is not in a position to fill

I can see US jumping on that new alliance. Their ties with Star aren't as solid as those of UA-CO, and they are substantially smaller, so there is not so much room for them in Star anymore...



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User currently offlineDelimit From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 1513 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2189 times:

The only two possibilities in here are US and Southwest. Southwest is not going to be joining an alliance anytime soon, and US would just get annihilated by the big [soon to be] 3. US is better in Star than trying to form a 4th alliance. The only possible move I could see US making is going to OW.

User currently offlineju068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2771 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2132 times:

Well there is OA which is not in an alliance at the moment, plus I am sure that Lot or Malev could switch as well...
Since someone mentioned Air Berlin, what about Norwegian?


User currently offlineweb500sjc From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2111 times:
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Quoting Delimit (Reply 5):
The only two possibilities in here are US and Southwest

you forgot B6, NK, VX, Republic airways (what ever that will turn out to be), AS, HA.

some of those airlines are more likely to jion an alliance than others, but if you could get two (AS + B6, AS +NK, B6+VX) you could maybe get a nice NA airline base.

the best option with non allinged airlines so far would probaly be AS/VX, B6, HA, VA, D7, QR/EY, VS, FR that i think might be a good start out set- just try getting the LCC to jion



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