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Irish Aviation 14/10: Summer's In The Air  
User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12472 posts, RR: 37
Posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 28519 times:

Good morning folks and welcome to a 14th dose of Irish aviation this year ...

Not an awful lot to report since last month, although it's great to see that RE is expanding at SNN and - if reports are to be believed - more expansion over the Summer. The RE/EI arrangement seems to be doing well for both carriers and the potential is certainly there for continued growth.

Not looking too worried about it, yet, is MO'L and FR, who are celebrating a swing back into profit. Despite all the naysayers, FR's growth continues, as indeed do its 737 deliveries, with three more arriving just this week.

Still no news on AI, although there was a report in another media source (and copied on PPRUNE) that AI is now focusing its energies on nonstop flights to the US. While this may well militate against a DUB operation, the fact of the matter is that many of the burgeoning "secondary" cities need US links and the major Indian airports, like DEL and BOM, are not really suitable as hubs (because of separate domestic/international terminals). There is still a lot to be said for picking a hub which has US immigration/customs facilities and the arrival of the 787s next year gives AI an ideal vehicle to link secondary cities like MAA, BLR, HYD and others to this hub.

Of course, there is the possibility that all this talk about AI is just a smokescreen for another major operator, but we'll see ...

Anyway, over to you folks ...

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User currently offlineshamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1598 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 28464 times:

Morning all and what a fine morning it is to! Afternoon actually but after 2 0630 starts and 2 0530 starts I thought I deserved a lie on this morning!

On anorther good note I see S7 are restarting DME-DUB tonight, however even me an avid enthusiast who would consider himself to be well up to date on DUB route news had no idea they were coming back! How is anyone wishing to travel to Moscow supposed to know?

Might pop up to DUB later on for some spotting if the good weather holds OK,ZB, TU, 8Q, PC and JP should add some much needed variety among the shamrocks and harps.

Also Star1 are back operating VNO-DUB 3 times a week meaning there is 3 airlines on the route.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26994 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 28281 times:

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
There is still a lot to be said for picking a hub which has US immigration/customs facilities and the arrival of the 787s next year gives AI an ideal vehicle to link secondary cities like MAA, BLR, HYD and others to this hub.

Indeed , I guess we will see what happens soon enough.

Quoting shamrock321 (Reply 1):
OK,ZB, TU, 8Q, PC and JP

A nice variety there also MA have some cracking fares to the Balkans from only €165 all in .


User currently offlineshamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1598 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 28203 times:

My travel habits have been on hold for a good while now unfortunatley after the problems with work last year, back on track now but looking a bit dodgy again heading towards the winter, fingers crossed tough! If I make it to November I think a big Euro holiday to somewhere off the beaten track will be in the making!

User currently offlineNibog From Ireland, joined Apr 2009, 329 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 28085 times:

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
Still no news on AI, although there was a report in another media source (and copied on PPRUNE) that AI is now focusing its energies on nonstop flights to the US. While this may well militate against a DUB operation, the fact of the matter is that many of the burgeoning "secondary" cities need US links and the major Indian airports, like DEL and BOM, are not really suitable as hubs (because of separate domestic/international terminals



Just as a follow on to this,in the June edition of Airliner World,there is a report that most of AI's losses stem from 30 of its international routes,and a group of ministers has recommended that it stops flying these services,changing the airline into a regional carrier.All of this awaits a government decision,either to continue to fly abroad or a restriction to just domestic only.

On a slightly different note has anyone taken up the offer of the £80 return AF A380 flights between CDG and LHR?.


User currently offlineauntie From Ireland, joined Jan 2009, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 27982 times:

Hey guys, been lurking around here forever! Even signed up last year but then continued to lurk!!
I finally have something worth saying   ..........in response to this .....

Quoting Nibog (Reply 4):
On a slightly different note has anyone taken up the offer of the £80 return AF A380 flights between CDG and LHR?.

I booked a return from LHR to CDG on 21/22 Aug. Very excited about trying the A380 - I didn't envisige any travel in my near future that would get me anywhere near the 380 so this is a great opportunity!!! Unfortunately there were no window seats left in the Upper Deck when I was booking.

Just need to book DUB - LHR return now. As the flight gets back so early from CDG, was thinking of maybe booking a late flight to Dublin and wandering over to Myrtle Ave for the afternoon. Hopefully the runway usage - and the weather - will be in my favour!


User currently offlineNibog From Ireland, joined Apr 2009, 329 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 27931 times:

Quoting auntie (Reply 5):
something worth saying

Good morning and welcome auntie,and now that you have broken the ice lets see more "responses"!!!.
Pity you got no window seats,I didnt have an option when I made my booking on the AF web site,and like you I have to get myself to LHR for the flights and a night in CDG,looking forward to it.


User currently offlineauntie From Ireland, joined Jan 2009, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 27911 times:

Thanks Nibog!

Ah no, I did get window seats - but on the lower deck. I wouldn't have gone at all without window seats  
47A and 15A. Thought I would try out both ends of the a/c!!!!


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26994 posts, RR: 57
Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 27871 times:

Quoting auntie (Reply 5):
I booked a return from LHR to CDG on 21/22 Aug. Very excited about trying the A380 - I didn't envisige any travel in my near future that would get me anywhere near the 380 so this is a great opportunity!!!

Welcome to the thread . It has certainly brought an opportunity to many and its a great idea. LH should do the same.
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Sign of the times ::

Holiday homebirds sticking to no-fly zones

THE VAST majority of families are likely to holiday at home this year, new research shows.

Some 81 per cent of people with children favour an Irish break compared to 43 per cent indicating they may take to foreign shores, according to the Fáilte Ireland survey.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...eland/2010/0605/1224271905420.html

I guess people are fed up with delays/baggage issues/strikes/Ash clouds etc...


User currently offlineirish251 From Ireland, joined Nov 2004, 974 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 27768 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 8):
THE VAST majority of families are likely to holiday at home this year, new research shows.

I must say I was not convinced by this research. It didn't really say that people weren't planning to travel - more that they may take some sort of break in Ireland as well. It also seems possible that people have delayed making firm plans until the ash situation eased off. As with any survey, look at who has commissioned it before drawing any conclusions.


User currently offlineDavecFlyer From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 369 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 27762 times:

Quoting Nibog (Reply 4):
On a slightly different note has anyone taken up the offer of the £80 return AF A380 flights between CDG and LHR?.

Yes, I've booked DUB - LHR - CDG - LHR - DUB on 17th July with the LHR - CDG leg on the A380. I'm in 86A which is on the upper deck towards the front of the aircraft. Can't wait for it now!



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User currently offlineNibog From Ireland, joined Apr 2009, 329 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 27731 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 8):
It has certainly brought an opportunity to many and its a great idea. LH should do the same



Couldn't agree with you more on that,I have plans on going to DXB and was thinking of using EK,but this offer from AF is a handy option.By the way OA260 i have tried that app for the Iphone that you said,"Planefinder",and it is excellent.I have just "watched" AF006 going westbound from CDG-JFK,A380!!!!. Thanks again.         


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26994 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 27657 times:

Quoting Nibog (Reply 4):
On a slightly different note has anyone taken up the offer of the £80 return AF A380 flights between CDG and LHR?.

I think its more a case of who hasnt ? lol...

Quoting Nibog (Reply 11):
By the way OA260 i have tried that app for the Iphone that you said,"Planefinder",and it is excellent.I have just "watched" AF006 going westbound from CDG-JFK,A380!!!!. Thanks again.

Great glad you like it , I often hear a prop A/C over my house around 7am most mornings when its quiet. Im sure its Aer Lingus Regional to GLA but too lazy to get out the iPad and check that App at that time in the morning   When I flew DUB-GLA I did indeed fly over my house. Also is there still free Wifi all over Dublin Airport?


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26994 posts, RR: 57
Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 27604 times:

Low-flying plane 'damages homes'

Residents in east Belfast have claimed roof tiles on their homes were dislodged by a low-flying aeroplane on Saturday.

The two properties are at Oval Court off Mersey Street.

A spokesperson for George Best Belfast City Airport said it was treating the incidents "extremely seriously".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/northern_ireland/10248734.stm


I wonder who was the culprit and what the circumstances were .


User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 27600 times:
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Quoting OA260 (Reply 13):
Residents in east Belfast have claimed roof tiles on their homes were dislodged by a low-flying aeroplane on Saturday.

If this is true then one can only imagine it is going to seriously damage Belfast City Airport's runway extension plan.



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User currently onlineeicvd From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2163 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 27579 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 8):
Holiday homebirds sticking to no-fly zones

THE VAST majority of families are likely to holiday at home this year, new research shows.

If I could afford it I wouldnt be holidaying at home. Tallaght/Finglas/Ballymun-on-Sea(eg Tramore) or somewere foreign? I know where id choose!  


User currently offlineshamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1598 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 27575 times:

No free WiFi at DUB, it was only during the volcano disruption, hasnt the BD lounge now got it fitted?

User currently offlineauntie From Ireland, joined Jan 2009, 144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 27559 times:

Quoting irish251 (Reply 9):
As with any survey, look at who has commissioned it before drawing any conclusions.

That's what I thought too when I read it.

Nobody I know personally is holidaying at home rather than abroad this year (some are staying in Ireland alright, but they do every year) I was in Lanzarote the week before last and there is no comparison for me between the reliability of the weather we had there and all my outdoorsy plans for this weekend coming to a grinding halt this morning due to the hours and hours of rain that we had today. It was also a hell of a lot cheaper while we were there - eating/drinking etc


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26994 posts, RR: 57
Reply 18, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 27549 times:

Quoting eicvd (Reply 15):
Tallaght/Finglas/Ballymun-on-Sea(eg Tramore) or somewere foreign? I know where id choose!  

LOL... or a day trip to ORK with FR for €20 !!

Quoting shamrock321 (Reply 16):
No free WiFi at DUB, it was only during the volcano disruption, hasnt the BD lounge now got it fitted?

Oh ok a collegue of mine was saying that there was free Wifi . Yeah BMI has a decent one which I have been using. Anna Livia also.

They should make T2 free Wifi zone all over   


User currently offlineshamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1598 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 27456 times:

All airports these days at least major international gateways should have free WiFi.

Just back from an hour spotting at DUB, seen EY taking off, man and women in car beside us obviously had a loved one onboard as they got out when it took off and watched it depart from 28, climb west hen bank right flying back overhead the airport to begin its journey east. The poor lady was crying almost made be well up aswell.


User currently offlineNibog From Ireland, joined Apr 2009, 329 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 27448 times:

Quoting shamrock321 (Reply 19):
All airports these days at least major international gateways should have free WiFi.


I totally agree shamrock321,I may be wrong but I think WiFi is the way to go and in an area like an airport it is important.

Quoting shamrock321 (Reply 19):
seen EY taking off, man and women in car beside us obviously had a loved one on board as they got out when it took off and watched it depart from 28


That reminds me of the days at the end of 24 watching 'ASI climbing out with another load heading stateside!!!.


User currently offlineshamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1598 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 27393 times:

I seen US722 on casper earlier approaching DUB and was deligthed to see it was a 762, when I was up at DUB earlier I seen it parked near the fire station and sure enough US723 was cancelled today, anyone have any idea why?

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26994 posts, RR: 57
Reply 22, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 27388 times:

Quoting shamrock321 (Reply 19):
. The poor lady was crying almost made be well up aswell.

Yeah I guess for me getting on a flight to see family is a regular thing and Im normally gone for 72 hours max but for some they may never see their family again or for many years to come. When I was growing up my relatives used to visit us once a year in London and my Mum was so happy when they arrived but always cried when they left, she never used to go to the airport but I always loved to of course  


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2903 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 27363 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 12):
Also is there still free Wifi all over Dublin Airport?
Quoting shamrock321 (Reply 16):
No free WiFi at DUB

There's free WiFi at SNN throughout the terminal for anyone interested... 



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26994 posts, RR: 57
Reply 24, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 27360 times:

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 23):
There's free WiFi at SNN throughout the terminal for anyone interested... 

Oh its got one attraction then      


25 tonymctigue : There is indeed. I assumed all the Irish airports had free WiFi but obviously not. Most airports I've been through make you pay for WiFi. The strange
26 Pilot21 : Saw that as well - flew out of Dublin last night to STN and saw the US airways B762 on a remote. Another Philly flight did land this morning at DUB w
27 shamrock321 : I think DUB could fill the economy cabin on the US A330 flights to PHL, they do quite well with connections to MCO etc, but the business cabin would s
28 shamrock604 : Interesting with all this talk of people vacationing at home. I think many will perhaps take one more short break at home than they would have previou
29 Pe@rson : Article in this month's ATW about RE entitled "Franchising the Future."
30 tonymctigue : Apparently US are cutting TA capacity out of PHL rather than adding to it so it is unlikely to see the service upgraded to an A330 at least on a pern
31 EI2KSEA : No plans to remove them for the time being. So I have been back in Ireland for a week now, the weather has behaved and I'm having a great trip. I was
32 Aer Lingus : aw but dude the cheesecake on EI, cmon! My main gripe with EI eastbound i'd like this to be applied to ALL flights in the dark, even LHR flights. Onl
33 EI2KSEA : I stand corrected! I do like that fluffy cheesecake-y thing. Notable in itself is that CO did not give a desert, they gave a biscuit!
34 shamrock321 : The charter loads are still high as they always are and there is as many charter flights this year as there was last year, but compared to 4/5 years a
35 Post contains links tonymctigue : Found this fantastic video on YouTube of SNN made in 1988. I'm sure some of you have probably seen it but anyone who hasn't it is definitely a great w
36 shamrock604 : No doubt we are behind the halcyon days of 2007! Although hopefully we are now seeing an upturn... I've used the airport as pax 6 times now in the la
37 shamrock604 : Interesting theory Kaitak. EY are rumoured to be looking at a big expansion with US routes also. But, given their large orders for new long range air
38 Post contains links rojam : A little free publicity for an Irish airline and an ex-Irish airport here - and a damn good song too.
39 kaitak : Please tell me this was US and not EI! That surprises me, as they still have a few 330s on order. I would expect, however, that the 332s would replac
40 irish251 : I would say that Delta flight is heading for DUB. Note the short ground roll and left turn out off runway 24. Note the Hapag-Lloyd 727 on the ramp al
41 oa260 : Its all down to capacity cuts they are only running what they can fill. Some charters have been cancelled. Nice video , dodgy fashions lol... and not
42 auntie : A relative of mine works as an ATC at ACE and said that traffic is down 20% there (although whether that is based on last year or over the last coupl
43 eicvd : Yeah I remember the last time I went down to SNN for the day a couple of years ago, saw an Air Berlin & an Aero Lloyd or 2.
44 oa260 : Yes speaking to friends and ex collegues still in the industry bookings are much better than last year but still way down and many just breaking even
45 bestwestern : Apparantly the UK market is in big trouble at the moment, having the same shock Ireland had last year in terms of big ticket spending confidence, etc
46 bx737 : The folks are just back from Lanzarote and they stayed in a complex that was used extensively by Budget Travel last year. They said that only four or
47 Post contains images AmricanShamrok : That was below the belt OA, below the belt..! Huge Irish population in Philadelphia, wouldn't shock me to see summer daily A330s at some point. Inter
48 auntie : Puerto del Carmen was absolutely dead when I was there 2 weeks ago. All those restaurants along the main street were completely empty most of the tim
49 Post contains images oa260 : I know sorry And you raise another point , I saw a report a few weeks back that parents were pulling their kids out of schools for a week or two to t
50 Post contains images auntie : Yeah, there wasn't thousands of kids there or anything but definitely a fair few. We were like grumpy auld ones going; "That child should be in schoo
51 AmricanShamrok : Great video. Anyone have any info about historical routes from SNN? I'm especially interested in SU - I know they flew: SVO-SNN LED-SNN IEV-SNN SNN-I
52 bx737 : You can't blame people for taking kids out of school, holiday prices at a minimum double for peak summer season. Even Ireland is as bad. I have leave
53 LUPOR1D : I have an old Aeroflot timetable somewhere so I'll look.
54 AmricanShamrok : Nice one, thanks!
55 shamrock321 : Here in work now and have alot of spare time tonight so will have a wander around, see what new and delightful things T1 has on offer. One thing of no
56 auntie : Not at all, and in the last couple of weeks of term they tend to do very little in school anyway. If it meant the difference between having a holiday
57 auntie : Apologies if this has been mentioned before - but shamrock321 your post reminded me I wanted to ask this. When you come through the customs channels
58 AmricanShamrok : CO giving 5,000 bonus miles and 5% off all Belfast-USA flights to celebrate 5 years on the EWR-BFS route: https://www.continental.com/web/en-US/apps/o
59 Post contains images bx737 : Well let me see, they x-ray you and if they find you're over the limit they nuke you........I've spent a bit too much time with the kids
60 shamrock321 : I nor customs have no idea why they have installed them, at the minute at least they do nothing except hinder people with surf boards and golf clubs f
61 oa260 : Delta are giving 5,000 miles for a one night stay at any Marriott hotel upto a max of 60,000 . Some rates in Ireland are only €79 so for 5K its a g
62 auntie : Thanks shamrock321 The only thing I could think of was maybe if they wanted the ability to stop people 'escaping' through customs...........time will
63 Post contains images shamrock321 : They cant lock them at night becise there is always people going out even if ist just a few staff, Ill be going through them at about 0330, they bette
64 Post contains images oa260 : LOL... I see a remake of ''The Terminal'' exciled from Corkozhia Yeah off the LPA/ACE flights
65 Eagleboy : Once they are operational they will be a one way system to exit the baggage hall. They have sensors on the airside to detect movement and they open t
66 irish251 : JFK, MGA and SCL were also served though, as with some of the other routes you mention, these were multi-stop services. All westbound Il-86s stopped
67 AmricanShamrok : Thanks for the info. Do you know what aircraft they used on SNN-ORD throughout the years? I didn't know miles were that easy to get in this country!
68 Post contains images aidansnn : Well, from my own experience, the idea of kids missing chunks of school to save on the family holiday costs is definitely frowned upon in schools, pa
69 Post contains images auntie : ah that makes sense, thanks for that.
70 bx737 : If the kids missing school is frowned upon, then the Dept of Education should contact the tour operators and Failte Ireland and try to get them to red
71 oa260 : At one time they used B767 as I flew SVO-SNN on one with the new J class product at that time and it was going onto ORD. The A310 went SNN-MIA .
72 Post contains links oa260 : Ash again hits Aer Lingus numbers Aer Lingus says its passenger numbers fell by almost 10% in May compared with the same month last year, hit by more
73 Post contains links shamrock350 : Looks like Christoph Mueller got his wish for more Heathrow slots, saw this in another thread which shows Aer Lingus having 42 more slots this summer
74 tonymctigue : Any ideas on what routes they will be used? Perhaps replace some of the capacity on DUB-LHR that was cut to make slots available for SNN-LHR?
75 Post contains images eicvd : With EK's order for around 30 more A380's today, by the time they start flying here the innagural flight will probably be with the super jumbo
76 EI320 : The extra slots are already in use as far as I know. SNN is now 3 daily (+1), BFS is now 4 daily (+1) and DUB-LHR is up to the same frequency as 2007
77 Post contains links ABC9 : Apologies if this has been linked already, I couldn't see it anywhere http://www.tribune.ie/business/artic.../06/emirates-set-for-dublin-debut/
78 kaitak : You might not have to wait quite that long ... After all, if EK wants to generate the capacity to support this new growth, then it is going to have t
79 JWMD123 : EI the 4th biggest airline (by slots) at LHR - Wow!! Totally agree. EK will need to start flying to what they probably termed "secondary airports". T
80 EI320 : EY will take a severe hit if EK enter DUB, there's no doubt about that, but lets hope there's enough business to sustain both carriers.
81 shamrock604 : The plan is to close the security area near check in area 13, so all pax will clear security down by area 3/4. The reason is to increase footfall for
82 AmricanShamrok : Great - can you remember what year that was? Aren't they leasing a slot pair or two to CO as well? They have a good few now!
83 Post contains links Pe@rson : For comparison, FR carried 17% more passengers in May 2010 verses 2009, at 5.51m and 6.44m respectively. For the 12 months to date, it has carried 68
84 styles9002 : Basically, what I gather from your comment is that you advocate a centrally-planned system of pricing for holiday and vacation travel which would hav
85 Eagleboy : Could the EY hint (threat) to have double daily service be an attempt to deter EK from coming into the DUB-DXB market. Styles, I don't think Bx737 is
86 tonymctigue : A distant 4th but still not bad considering the relative size of LHR with EI. I must say, 42 more slots in addition to what they already have seems l
87 AmricanShamrok : I was thinking that too. Seems highly unlikely but stranger things have happened! I wonder when we'll see SNN get its fourth daily rotation back...
88 shamrock604 : Its the ideal solution for the NOC route. There's always a local market for Heathrow, much more so than for the other London Airports. FR can fight E
89 Post contains images aidansnn : Not to go completely off topic with this and sound like a whiny teacher , but I feel obligated to reply! I don't think it's simply a case of teachers
90 EI564 : 6 extra daily slots or 3 extra return flights. SNN got 1 extra this summer and DUB got back the 2 it gave to SNN last summer to restart SNN-LHR. So t
91 EI320 : Correct, and the 5th ORK summer slot was transferred to BFS.
92 shamrock604 : Ah OK, something has been lost in translation here. I assumed that EI were on the look out for an extra 42 slots, not that they already had them. Sor
93 styles9002 : On the school vacation/holidays point, do all the schools in the country have the exact same schedule for time on and time off? If that is the case, o
94 al2637 : Primary schools close for TWO MONTHS in Ireland, Secondary schools for THREE! I'm not sure a week either side would make much difference. Although the
95 Post contains links sawtooth : The High Court has quashed Sligo Co Cos approval of planning permission for the runway extension across Dorrins Strand... http://www.dorrins.com/
96 tonymctigue : That explains alot. I was wondering where on Earth they were going to make use of that amount of extra slots.
97 Post contains images shamrock604 : No, they are not completely standardised, and schools have some leeway in setting dates, but in practice they dont vary all that much (perhaps a week
98 Post contains links sawtooth : Wicklow People and East Coast FM recently had a feature on plans for Wicklow International Airport. To summarise the interview...lack of airports on E
99 Post contains images aidansnn : That would certainly help matters, but I agree more suitable for the Mid-terms. However I think the Irish population is already at an advantage in so
100 shamrock321 : To go back to the new security doors at customs, a passenger got stuck in them the other day for 40 minutes! They had a connection which they missed!
101 Post contains images shamrock604 : My..... things have changed since my school days......
102 JWMD123 : Do you know exactly what happended Shamrock321? I went through these a few weeks ago returning from LAS and they are pretty wide to fit someone walki
103 tonymctigue : Where now for SXL? I remember at the time that they announced the runway extension plan that it was a case if they didn't get it then they would prob
104 dstc47 : From the wonderful pols of Wicklow who seemingly knew nothing about the hundreds of illegal rubbish dumps, a new landfill perhaps? Or a chance to lev
105 sawtooth : The arrogance of Sligo Co Co in overruling the huge number of original appeals without addressing any of the concerns or producing even a basic busin
106 kaitak : The problem is that there is such a vacuum at govt level; in all honesty, how often over the past five years have you heard any comment on aviation po
107 tonymctigue : A primary reason as to why county councilors should not be sitting on the boards of regional airports. Of all the regional airports, SXL has probably
108 Post contains links oa260 : Dublin airport authority says 40pc hike in fees 'not enough' The Dublin Airport Authority (DAA) has argued that a 40pc hike in passenger charges set b
109 auntie : My parents just came back from Bristol this evening and my mam was saying that the door didn't open when she came to it, but my dad came along behind
110 Post contains links neutral : auntie (Reply 109): I would hate to be stuck between 2 doors in a small space for 40 minutes. There is no reason for this unless all the DAA maintanan
111 oa260 : Not to mention a serious Health and Safety breach. I know Ireland doesn't take H&S as serious as other countries but still you would think that s
112 EI564 : Given that the airlines want the charges to fall, its kind of obliged to say it wants charges to go up? Its case might not be great but i'd be a lot
113 shamrock604 : We're at a crossing point here with this - believe it or believe it not. If our airports "are critical pieces of national infrastructure", then we mu
114 Eagleboy : This seems to be a huge hike. If this figure is real then why did they tender for the 'burden' of T2? And more importantly why is this only coming to
115 EI320 : The above part of the Indo article is very misleading. Should read.... This "agreement" doesn't prevent cabin crew, pilots, engineers, non-SIPTU grou
116 shamrock604 : It's especially a surprise given that the way the indo has worded it could be construed as "Pro Aerlingus" which is definitely not something the indo
117 Post contains links shamrock604 : Interesting article in ATW online this morning re Air India and its FRA operation...... http://atwonline.com/airline-finance...aluating-future-0609?ci
118 clydenairways : While that is all true, the difference between airlines and airports is this. Traffic, revenue and yeilds down: Airlines reaction = Look to lower cos
119 Post contains links and images kaitak : Sheesh ... they are, well, cleaning up! Funnily enough, I was just thinking this morning, it's quite a while since we've had a new route announcement
120 COEI2007 : I wonder could the a321ER be useful to EI for it's US routes? If they could be operated across the Atlantic, it would certainly make SNN routes, new e
121 clydenairways : It might do if Aerlingus took a serious look at it, maybe if Continental put the 737-900ER on it might prompt EI to copy, however you have to conside
122 tonymctigue : We've had this discussion a few times now. Most people agree that an A321/B757 is the ideal size for TA ops from SNN but that the A321 just does not
123 AmricanShamrok : If EI got some A319s and operated them on both shorthaul and longhaul (all Y), would it have the legs for transatlantic? Or would it be restricted by
124 kaitak : It probably would have the legs (the A319-115, as operated by AF has a very long range), BUT the unit costs (CASM) would be horrendous. I don't think
125 tonymctigue : It is true. EI will not take such a risk of introducing anew AC type just for a handful of TA ops out of SNN so unless some of the current narrow bod
126 COEI2007 : I would be surprised to see EI still operating IAD-MAD in a few months time. IAD didnt work for EI, so im not sure it would even work for UA, and the
127 shamrock604 : Dont believe all the rumours going around the DUB base about IAD - IAD-MAD is doing VERY well indeed, especially for such a new route. The dynamics o
128 COEI2007 : But if the route is doing so well, UA/CO will more than likely want to operate it with their own aircraft/crew. It all depends what happens with the
129 Eagleboy : Depends on the UA reason for the route. If it was due to the lack of suitable all Y aircraft in the UA fleet then the merger will provide suitable ai
130 tonymctigue : And it keeps some A330's and crew that would otherwise be sitting idle working so it is a good arrangement for EI. Perhaps in a few years, EI will ne
131 Post contains links oa260 : Judge blocks Ryanair bid to challenge new airport charges RYANAIR has been refused permission to appeal to the Supreme Court against a High Court judg
132 Ire2008 : Hi just a side note, with all the good news and expansion in aviation is this the start of recovery? In the last 2 weeks Ive been offered 2 jobs! afte
133 shamrock321 : Good stuff Kevin congratulations! Aer Lingus are currently recruiting baggage handlers at DUB.
134 Post contains links kaitak : This is the latest case in which Kelly J. ruled in a case involving FR. He must be sick of the sight of them by now! Interesting article in today's A
135 Post contains links ClassicLover : Which is being discussed in this thread - http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4836056/ My comments in that thread are pr
136 kaitak : I tend to agree with you; OW seems the most likely. It would be as big a disappointment to me (as it would be to you) if OW wasn't chosen, but I agree
137 Post contains links and images EI787 : The application process has begun for those interested in taking part in the Operational Trials for Terminal 2 at DUB! Apply here: http://terminal2tri
138 Post contains images EI320 : Thanks for the link, I've registered. Would be a fantastic experience.
139 Post contains links kaitak : Unfortunate accident at SNN today ... a 757 en route from EDI to EWR had to divert to SNN due to an ill passenger. For some reason (it's not clear fro
140 Post contains images ClassicLover : Registered for that also - could be quite cool
141 Eagleboy : Well CM has stated before that EI will join an alliance at some stage, however he feel they are fine in the short to medium term as an independant ai
142 Post contains images aer lingus : I've just registered. Thanks for the link Hope to see you all in the trials. I will be back in DUB in mid August and I hope the August trial doesn't
143 dstc47 : Gentlemen, if you are involved in the T2 trial you might be able to do us all some service. Perhaps you might review the past criticism of T5 and BKK
144 bestwestern : Nice look Unfair to EI. EI makes policy changes, BD makes knee jerk reactions and complete about turns.
145 oa260 : Certainly is an interesting article. Good news on the trials at T2 not sure if I will participate as it's a busy two months for me. I presume no came
146 Post contains images ClassicLover : No, no cameras allowed as per the web site
147 oa260 : Arr ok just like BAA still I guess it would be still nice to see it
148 Eagleboy : Spotted that too. "Security" is cited. A bit mad considering it will be open to the public in November. Perhaps they will release official shots of t
149 shamrock321 : I love to register for the T2 trials but if things go well, Ill have the pleasure of working there!
150 EireRock : Any more news on the BMI extra daily flight or bringing back the nightstop?
151 shamrock321 : The BD125/126 is confirmed back from the end of next month and is bookable, no further news on the nightstopper yet altough Id imagine it could be win
152 neutral : One for the Ryanair people Why can I book Dublin to Malaga up until end of march 2011 but can only book Malaga to Dublin for a 5 day period over Xmas
153 oneworld77 : I am NOT from FR (*shudder*) but.... They have too many planes and not enough crew (see EZY in a similar situation - wetleasing from LS). Now, I wond
154 Post contains links kaitak : Govt looking to offload various state companies ... including DAA: http://www.sbpost.ie/news/government...sale-of-state-companies-49891.html Sale of t
155 oa260 : Very impressed by the CityJet/AF service this evening from LCY-DUB. Y class got wine/sandwich and mini chocs. its the same a Bmi's Y+ product. Is this
156 shamrock604 : Yes, this is the standard offer on the London City Routes from Cityjet.
157 AmricanShamrok : When I did CDG-SNN last year we were only offered a sandwich and beverage-no wine or chocolates! Why does the service differ between LCY and CDG; it'
158 shamrock604 : CDG services are Air France franchise routes - so service is AF standard, specified by Air France. LCY routes are slightly different as they are sold
159 gpbcroppers63 : That's interesting to know. Strange that the DUB-LCY route only has AF flight numbers if it's meant to be a Cityjet flight. Service was excellent tho
160 oa260 : My thoughts exactly although if there was a connection via LCY id certainly consider it. Although lack of lounges puts me off a bit.
161 shamrock604 : All Cityjet operated services have AF flight numbers. It increases visibility in the Res systems, and Cityjet are after all 100% owned by AF. Lack of
162 shamrock321 : Can AF business passengers not use the Anna Livia lounge? Im sure they can! Also as I was enroute to work this morning at about 0740 I seen the beauti
163 eicvd : The U2 a/c was G-OJIB, leased from Astraeus. Im surprised that got painted up in the Easy colours, read somewhere only the Air Finland a/c was going
164 gpbcroppers63 : Yeah I get that but it would seem a little confusing to passengers who expect Cityjet service on an AF flight and vice versa. I believe Philip was re
165 shamrock321 : I guess the Iceland Express 757 is also leased from 5W and was going in for painting at DUB aswell?
166 aerecosse : Totally agree, flew EI/BA to DXB last month & whilst the transfer from 1-5 was OK, Heathrow express to T5 & lots of lifts.... going back took
167 Post contains links oa260 : Yes thats what I meant they do indeed use Anna Livia in DUB but no lounges for any carrier in LCY. As you said Gareth its not meant to be a terminal
168 Post contains images Daninafryingpan : I'm sure I remember seeing quite a few Free WiFi zone signs around Pier D the last time I was there in 2008, but when I fired up the laptop none were
169 Post contains links oa260 : The Saga continues : Ryanair to seek to prevent judge from hearing its cases RYANAIR WILL apply next week to prevent a High Court judge hearing any mo
170 Post contains links AmricanShamrok : An Air Jamaica A320 is en route from JFK to SNN, scheduled into SNN at 16:55 but delayed until 18:22. Currently about halfway through its Atlantic cro
171 clydenairways : Probably returning from lease and heading to the painting facility.
172 lasno : Sun Country hava a weekly B738 service from Minneapolis to STN for the summer. It should have departed STN on Sunday but may have been delayed. They w
173 Post contains links EIDAA : Bad news for Shannon unfortunately... From ATI ( http://www.rati.com ) Aer Lingus to suspend Shannon transatlantic flights Aer Lingus will suspend ser
174 EI2KSEA : Understandable if the level of losses is that high and Im sure CO and DL going year round isnt helping matters. I just booked BOS-SNN-BOS for Dec 15th
175 EI320 : Hardly surprising given the highly seasonal nature of the SNN market. Winter reductions are probably something we'll start to see more of. Hopefully
176 Post contains links kaitak : Time to howls of protest and accusations of economic treason against Aer Lingus: 5, 4, 3, 2 ... SNN still has CO and DL for the Winter anyway. Next qu
177 AmricanShamrok : Whatever about JFK, I didn't think they'd suspend BOS - that was apparantly going well for EI? There's definately too much capacity on the SNN-NYC rou
178 sawtooth : Will the remaining winter frequencies be reduced? Good day to bury a bad news release.
179 EI2KSEA : As I said it looks like BOS is only 3 per week in December based on booking at aerlingus.com. I just spent over an hour on hold to their US reservatio
180 neutral : More photos of Dublin's T2 on the DAA website its certainly looking good.
181 ABC9 : Folks, sorry to throw in a question of a purely personal nature but I wonder could any of our EI cabin crew help me out here. I'm booked DUB to BLQ in
182 DavecFlyer : I did a DUB - LCY - ORY a few months back and the connection in LCY was a disaster and I had to be pulled out of the security line as the flight was
183 gpbcroppers63 : Don't mention people missing flights at LCY. While we were waiting to board our flight to DUB, a woman with a really young baby was going mental at t
184 shamrock350 : Route cuts are always disappointing but in this case they are hardly surprising and in the long run these cuts at SNN by EI will benefit both the airl
185 EI2KSEA : There was an Air Jamaica A320 outside Shannon Aerospace on Sunday so presumably this is a similar visitor.
186 rojam : There are a multitude of connections via LCY - and with up to 7 WX/AF frequencies per day, transiting via LCY should be advocated more by the airline
187 shamrock321 : New terminal is looking good, some of my colleauges were over their yesterday and said it puts T1 to shame, apparently its huge! Cant wait now!
188 Pilot21 : There have been quite a few press articles and rants by pax in the past few months about LCY's security lines and hold ups. It seems that due to new
189 shamrock604 : I suspect they are just tinkering with the schedule. MME and DSA are connection unfriendly at present, and with rumoured expansion of the deal, it ma
190 shamrock321 : With 3 ATRS based at DUB and the bulk of the flights to EDI, GLA and CWL its not possible for EI to offer convinient connections from all regional UK
191 EISHN : I advocated this a few months back, and this shows that Mueller is really taking charge, and not afraid to make the right decisions. SNN will have CO
192 oa260 : I read it on another forum also , I remember when LCY first opened all those years back only London City Airways and Brymon were operating Dash A/C t
193 shamrock321 : Nice looking Iberia Oneworld logojet at DUB today.
194 Post contains links and images rojam : How low can an airline go ? How low can Ryanair go ? Lower than most airlines I bet you're reckoning.... While I generally don't listen to the RTÉ Ra
195 shamrock321 : Speaking of food (or drink) I seen a very irrate AF passenger today who had his bag misplaced shout all over the baggage hall that his balls were cove
196 shamrock350 : I truly believe the bad reputation that Ryanair has been branded with over the years is exaggerated but when you hear a story like this it really doe
197 neutral : I know one of the people involved and also have heard other accounts of the story and they all say the same thing complete mess of the situation by t
198 Post contains images oa260 : Must have been sore if he wasnt wearing any trousers
199 sawtooth : It's a bit much that everyone is blaming Ryanair for the attitude of one crew member, unless they have a no refund policy which led to this? Does food
200 Post contains links oa260 : Aer Lingus tries again to escape the nightmare that is Shannon First Willie Walsh, then Dermot Mannion and now Christopher Mueller. All three Aer Ling
201 auntie : Well cabin crew are the face of the airline so of course it's going to reflect on the company. If Ryanair care about the image that their front line
202 shamrock604 : Although the article raises some good points, the sensationalist heading is grossly unfair to SNN. If it were such a nightmare, would they have re-in
203 lasno : And the journo conveniently failed to mention that CO and DL were not having nightmares at SNN!
204 shamrock604 : Indeed. But I guess this is to be expected from the Indo, which seems to be descending into nothing more than "The Sun" with a posh title.
205 Post contains links clydenairways : Anybody know what this story is all about? "Charges of theft and deception against a 37-year-old Limerick woman, who chartered aircraft for Munster aw
206 ClassicLover : Meanwhile... Did anyone know there is a Garden Terrace in T1 now? Apparently in the newly opened area, you go upstairs and there is an actual outdoor
207 dstc47 : In a week just filled with reports, at home and abroad, the Canadian Government have just released a report into the Air India bombing, which happened
208 callbell : Yes I've been out on the terrace once. It will be nice to have somewhere to sit outside especially on sunny days. Also seemed very popular with smoker
209 shamrock321 : Ive been up the the terrace, it isnt much of a garden to be honest! You cant bring food out there as it will attract birds. The new bar up there also
210 Post contains images AmricanShamrok : What a headline...it's a real shame the Indo has stooped to this level
211 auntie : Diarmiud Gavin is supposed to be designing it apparently so maybe it will improve. There are just some trees in pots @ the moment! Yeah disappointing
212 lasno : Its about chartering an aircraft to take Munster fans to rugby matches. Apparently the said lady did not have a TO licence, hence the charges.
213 shamrock350 : Aer Lingus have launched their Autumn Sale, Europe from EUR29.99 one way but it looks like both DSA and MME will be ending from the end of October and
214 auntie : I just asked a colleague of mine - who is from Sheffield and would be over and back fairly regularly - did he ever use EI Regional and he said he did
215 al2637 : Flew through DUB yesterday, a few things annoyed me - The line for the EI bag drop had a longer wait time than the checkin queue. Quite badly managed.
216 clydenairways : Like the finish on everything built during the Celtic Tiger days.
217 tonymctigue : That is the way I'm looking at it although I do think that for the sake of a few weeks that it is odd they didn't offer flights over the Saint Partic
218 Post contains links JWMD123 : Guys have a look at this http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/10347835.stm Very poor reporting. a 1m 40s they say EI has long haul flights from LHR!!!!
219 tonymctigue : I'd say perhaps they were referring to the numbers of EI passengers who connect to long haul flights at LHR bvut that is not the impression that you
220 Post contains links shamrock350 : Aer Lingus upbeat on performance Aer Lingus’s performance in April and May this year exceeded its performance in the same period last year, the airl
221 Post contains images oa260 : I got a new AIB Laser card and tried to use it last week, two failed attempts and finally had to sign. Thought it was just me They should get it sort
222 Post contains links kaitak : It really is frustrating when cards don't work, but hopefully they're now aware of it and will act accordingly. Anyway, here is the link to the new th
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