A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9079 posts, RR: 13 Posted (2 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4151 times:
I was wondering, Martinair and Transavia have now been part of KLM for a while now but why don't they have the Sky Team logo on their aircraft or no Sky Team logo aircraft? Does it have to do with them operating charter flights only? AFAIK Martinair also connects passengers on KLM flights and vice versa and that Martinair is being integrated in the KLM network. Will these airlines be fully integrated in the Sky Team network in the near future? Will we see a Sky Team logo jet in Martinair's fleet anytime soon? Is this planned? It will be nice to see a Martinair 763 wearing the Sky Team logo this year or maybe even the aircraft that will replace their 763 fleet (the A332?)
Can anyone elaborate on this? HB-IWC, do you know more about this?
kiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8435 posts, RR: 14 Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4132 times:
Not all partially or fully owned subsidiaries necessarily join their parent in an alliance .
With *A for example SQs subsidiary Silkair is not affiliated. Oneworld member QF has not integrated Jetstar into the alliance , nor has BA integrated Open Skies .
Moderation in all things ... including moderation ;-)
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9079 posts, RR: 13 Reply 3, posted (2 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4042 times:
You know guys, I never thought of that. Very valid points. But still, my questions remain. I can see HV not being fully integrated as they are a charter/low cost airline, but MP I actually see being fully integrated as a full member. Any thoughts?
shamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1547 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (2 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4020 times:
They are a charter carrier but are unique that they do offer connections but altough owned by KLM ( I dint reliase they were) they are not KLM, they are Martinair.
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9079 posts, RR: 13 Reply 5, posted (2 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3965 times:
Quoting shamrock321 (Reply 4): They are a charter carrier but are unique that they do offer connections but altough owned by KLM ( I dint reliase they were) they are not KLM, they are Martinair.
This is why they offer connections on KL flight as well because in fact they now are KL. KL Cargo is transferring their cargo operations into MP Cargo's as well.
avek00 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4092 posts, RR: 18 Reply 6, posted (2 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3927 times:
Martinair and Transavia are not members of the SkyTeam Alliance.
Continental Airlines, the 25th member of the Star Alliance network.
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9079 posts, RR: 13 Reply 7, posted (2 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3727 times:
Quoting avek00 (Reply 6): Martinair and Transavia are not members of the SkyTeam Alliance.
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