Atrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5613 posts, RR: 54 Posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 16533 times:
A US Airways Airbus A330 flying CLT-FRA collided into a US Airways Airbus A321 Aircraft
The wingtip of the A330 sliced through the rudder of the A321 Aircraft.
Both planes have been taken out of service as I have been told.
Alex
[Edited 2010-06-05 17:50:41]
Good things come to those who wait, better things come to those who go AFTER it!
eaa3 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 956 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 16460 times:
Quoting Atrude777 (Thread starter): A US Airways Airbus A330 flying CLT-FRA collided into a US Airways Airbus A321 Aircraft
bond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5098 posts, RR: 8 Reply 2, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 16344 times:
Nothing is "Minor" when an aircraft hits something, even on the ground, especially when it hits another one!
I'm guessing somebody is in big trouble
Jimbo
I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air, than in the air wishing I was on the ground!
comairguycvg From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 304 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 16318 times:
Quoting Atrude777 (Thread starter): Both planes have been taken out of service as I have been told.
You don't have to be told that just looking at the pic. That's a given!
ATLFlyer323 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 558 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 16197 times:
What's going on with the FRA flight then? I'm assuming since the A330 winglet was all that was damaged they will have the aircraft up and running soon? I don't think US has a ton of long haul aircraft just sitting around to take up the flight the A330 is missing....
gsmith2424 From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 11 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 16142 times:
I think they might pull a 767-200 off of one of the domestic routes and use it for FRA until the A333 in question is fixed.
Atrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5613 posts, RR: 54 Reply 6, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 16063 times:
Quoting ATLFlyer323 (Reply 4): What's going on with the FRA flight then? I'm assuming since the A330 winglet was all that was damaged they will have the aircraft up and running soon? I don't think US has a ton of long haul aircraft just sitting around to take up the flight the A330 is missing....
CLT-FRA canceled as well.
Canceled
MTX-FLIGHT CANCELED DUE TO AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE
Alex
Good things come to those who wait, better things come to those who go AFTER it!
Maverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 4744 posts, RR: 6 Reply 7, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 14947 times:
So that's what all the commotion was about. I saw some gate agents pointing at something from B11, but couldn't tell what it was.
FX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 12736 times:
my1le From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 175 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 11906 times:
Quoting Qslinger (Reply 9): Why does the material pictured look as if it was wood?
That is the way composite material looks when it gets damaged. You mostly see this with radome's but not tails.
borax From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 11646 times:
Quoting ATLFlyer323 (Reply 4): I'm assuming since the A330 winglet was all that was damaged they will have the aircraft up and running soon?
Normally a case of taking the winglet off and speed-taping the end of the wing - job done. So long as the winglet is only damaged and there was no deeper damage the the rest of the jet. Also recalculate the flight plan for a fuel penalty due to the missing winglet.
einsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 2043 posts, RR: 6 Reply 13, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 10894 times:
Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 7): So that's what all the commotion was about. I saw some gate agents pointing at something from B11, but couldn't tell what it was.
B11? Then the plane I was in was involved in that. US 1175 arrived to CLT at B11, an A321...small world.
"You haven't seen a tree until you've seen its shadow from the sky."
b6a322 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 287 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 10461 times:
So what would be the operating procedure for something like this after the planes hit? I would assume the pilots would be alerted by some error message or something, and then notify the other a/c?
Or is it like a car accident and they both have to stop and wait to see how bad the damage is?
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KC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 11705 posts, RR: 52 Reply 16, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 10183 times:
The rudder on the A-321 will need to be changed, that is a big job as the replacement, and the tail fin will need to be closely rebalanced. Any pictures of the damage to the A-330? Do we know the tail numbers involved yet?
I would guess the pilot's union would be involved in the investigation?
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21221 posts, RR: 19 Reply 17, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 8620 times:
PHLapproach From Philippines, joined Mar 2004, 1180 posts, RR: 22 Reply 18, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 8438 times:
Quoting jmc1975 (Reply 8): What are the reg. numbers of the aircraft involved?
277 and not sure about the 321. AOG parts left PHL last night.
Goblin211 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 1209 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 8129 times:
Max777geek From Italy, joined Mar 2007, 538 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7899 times:
Quoting bond007 (Reply 2): Nothing is "Minor" when an aircraft hits something, even on the ground, especially when it hits another one!
Im not sure there is a set of definitions for this, anyhow if with "minor" you can group damages like scratches you can tape, just like anything will not put the airplane out of service, this one doesn't look minor at all to me...
paulinbna From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 1114 posts, RR: 5 Reply 22, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6517 times:
paulinbna From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 1114 posts, RR: 5 Reply 23, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6468 times:
At the above link I love the sentence that says
" The minor collision did not cause much damage, but airline officials didn't want to take any chances so all 450 passengers were put on different planes."
That is a understatement looking at the picture above.
Canon 50D user; 100-400 MM L IS 10-22 MM, 60MM Macro
maddog888 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2007, 159 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6300 times:
Quoting Numero4 (Reply 21): Quoting Goblin211 (Reply 19):
Was it a result of Air traffic control error?
Sounds more like ground traffic control error to me
jk
Where does the responsibility lie for something like this? I assume if the plane is unhooked and freely taxiing even around the gates it is the captain's problem. However if the plane is still hooked up on pushback is it the responsibilty of the ground crew or shared with the captain or still all the captain's problem? If it is the ground crew, is it the tug driver or one of the walkers?
(As you can see I know very little of the protocol. I just know that I see alot of people with batons when planes are near the gates and assumed that they were there to stop this sort of thing. I am assuming that this happened in the gate area and not at some remote parking stand or taxiway as I would consider that more worrying. Either way I assume someone is going to have a very bad day very soon explaining to management how it could happen.)
PS: pity it wasn't an RJ, the wing would probably have gone clean over the top
J
[Edited 2010-06-06 12:34:28]
25 etherealsky: What kind of composite is a typical Airbus rudder made from? The E-jets are still around 33 feet tall (but then again, they're also shorter)
26 maddog888: sorry my bad. I've just come off 2 CRJ200 flights and I was thinking of them. off topic: man do those little babies like to zip around the airport at
27 Maverick623: No, that wasn't the plane... A/C 195 at B11 took out 705 to PHX. I would know... I was on it. Small world indeed! Yikes.... I saw 277 push, it blocke
28 YVPHX: What if the 321 wasn't right on the block at the gate? That could easily put its tail into the active taxiway. I've seen instances in PHX where an RJ
29 Maverick623: The A330 had already pushed and was taxiing out. I can say that for certain - I saw it push and leave under its own power. The news reports suggest t
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