stevenlee505 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 68 posts, RR: 0 Posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2163 times:
I was playing around in FlightAware and noticed this. Does anyone know why this flight is flying all the way to the OAK VOR instead of flying through something like the LAX VOR?
rwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2147 posts, RR: 7 Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2100 times:
Looks like its heading to the nearest point on the mainland. Perhaps a requirement?
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B777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1006 posts, RR: 3 Reply 2, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2057 times:
Happens every day, many times a day; there's nothing "wrong" with the routing.
Could literally be dozens of reasons why they took the route they did. Most frequent reason for non-direct routing is ATC restrictions / flow control, resulting in either having to route away from the congested area or accept a long delay. Most airlines will choose to route away from the troubles in order to suffer the smallet possible delay.
These re-routes happens on an all too frequent basis when the French or Greek ATCO goes on strike, and do they go on strike often!, resulting in severe flow restrictions over their airspace. On a flight from AMS to PMI we once routed into Germany, then down over Switzerland and Italy before hanging a right for PMI. Added a good hour to the flight, but the alternative was a 4 hour slot delay.
The other frequest reason is weather - you should have seen some of the routings they did earlier this week to avoid hurricane Phet over Oman and the IO.
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26point2 From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 666 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1833 times:
That's airway R465. Primary Eastbound track from Hawaii to N. Cal.
A more Northerly route often gets a better push from the jetstream..time saved. This is not uncommon.
PGNCS From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 2516 posts, RR: 45 Reply 4, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 1833 times:
Why do you think something is wrong? This is highly ordinary. He was assigned the "C" track from HNL to the mainland.
rfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 6150 posts, RR: 25 Reply 5, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1540 times:
They didn't go to the OAK VOR though that was in their FP - they made their turn toward Arizona a hundred or so miles offshore.
Remember the flat map gives false distance impressions. It is 2,093 nm on the Great Circle route PHNL-KOAK and it is 2,221 nm PHNL-KLAX.
Yes the total distance via OAK is about 114nm longer than through LAX - but that is only a 4.5% difference.
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