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World Cup Fly-by A No-go  
User currently offlineFLYAWA From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 200 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5526 times:

A FIFA official said Monday the flyover was definitely a no-go.

"It's forbidden," FIFA spokeswoman Delia Fischer said. "No plane will receive permission to fly over any of the World Cup stadiums as the air space in restricted within a 1-kilometer radius."

If SAA could get approval from FIFA, a fly-by reprise of the 1995 Rugby World Cup would take place Friday afternoon when South Africa opens against heavily favored Mexico.

"The preparation for it has been done," Laurie Kay, retired SAA pilot of the 1995 fly-by, said Monday. "The people at SAA said they're still a little in the dark. FIFA is almost the government at the moment. What they say goes."


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User currently offlineBORGCUBE From South Africa, joined Jun 2009, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 10 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5373 times:

The SAAF Silver Falcons practiced a display over soccer city this afternoon
So it seems they will appear


User currently offlineETinCaribe From Ethiopia, joined Dec 2009, 717 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4838 times:

Quoting BORGCUBE (Reply 1):
The SAAF Silver Falcons practiced a display over soccer city this afternoon
So it seems they will appear

I hope so. I hate how FIFA acts like a spoiled dictator and wants to control everything.


User currently offlineSketty222 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 1775 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4363 times:

IMO opinion Sepp Blatter and Michel Platini think they rule the world at the moment


There's flying and then there's flying
User currently offlineAFGMEL From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4132 times:

I'm amazed at the arrogance. It may be a popular sport, but it's only a sport. You don't own the airspace in a sovereign country dear.


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User currently offlineETinCaribe From Ethiopia, joined Dec 2009, 717 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3747 times:

Quoting AFGMEL (Reply 4):
it's only a sport

Many will disagree with that; it is much more than that, IMHO, hence the power of FIFA.

Quoting AFGMEL (Reply 4):
You don't own the airspace in a sovereign country dear.

   Very well put.


User currently offlineCaptainCrackers From New Zealand, joined May 2010, 126 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3696 times:

Quoting AFGMEL (Reply 4):
You don't own the airspace in a sovereign country dear.

Money talks, and FIFA is who's bringing it to South Africa...


User currently offlineandz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8414 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3402 times:
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What bull, SAA are the world authority on formation fly-bys. I can just imagine the language in flight ops.....


After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3767 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3286 times:

Well, lets wait till Friday...   I can totally picture it happen, ban or no ban.

Soren   



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User currently offlinetrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3223 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3228 times:

Sorry to go slightly off-topic (aviation) here but FIFA is a very tough body and has rigid rules for nations hosting major tournaments such as the FIFA World Cup. For example, in the last tournament in Germany (which I attended) the stadia used could not bear the names of sponsors if they were not official FIFA sponsors. As such some stadia, which were named after the sponsors of Bundesliga teams which played in them normally, were referred to by more generic names and had the sponsors' letters covered during the tournament.

It's unfortunate to not have a fly-past as it would be good and South Africa has a strong history of fly-pasts and aviation heritage overall - but if FIFA says "No", it means no.

TrinToCan.



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User currently offlineTheSonntag From Germany, joined Jun 2005, 3396 posts, RR: 29
Reply 10, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3172 times:

Quoting trintocan (Reply 9):
r example, in the last tournament in Germany (which I attended) the stadia used could not bear the names of sponsors if they were not official FIFA sponsors.

That is something entirely different from a legal point of view, though. The Fifa technically rented the stadiums, and in the contracts they got the right to have full control on the stadium and on the commercials shown in and around the stadium. On the other hand, FIFA agreed that the stadiums would be re-delivered to the owner after the match in the same condition as before, so they had to put the names of the original sponsors back to the stadium after the match ended.

However, the rental right ends at the fences. Which means the airspace above the stadium is not under FIFA control in germany.


User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 13792 posts, RR: 63
Reply 11, posted (3 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3105 times:

Quoting Sketty222 (Reply 3):
IMO opinion Sepp Blatter and Michel Platini think they rule the world at the moment

They did so in Germany as well. Here they tried to enforce a rule that all pubs within 1 km of the stadiums had to cover their beer brand advertisement, because Anheuser-Busch´s Budwiser (of all beers    and especially in Germany!) had the exclusive contract for beer sales during the world cup. The publicans and the local breweries, which whom they had contracts, fought this demand successfully. While the FIFA had rented the stadiums and could enforce their rules there, they could not enforce them outside the stadiums.

Jan


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