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747-8F Engine Damage  
User currently offlineheavy747 From Canada, joined Mar 2000, 97 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 21251 times:

Just read that one of the test 748F's had a little incident with a tug. Click the link for pics.

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fl...-closer-look-747-8f-engine-da.html

Andrew


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User currently offlinealevik From Canada, joined Mar 2009, 1062 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 21198 times:
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That looks pretty serious. Fortunately, as noted, no one was hurt.


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User currently offlinetdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 20814 times:

Quoting heavy747 (Thread starter):
Just read that one of the test 748F's had a little incident with a tug.

Boeing posted it on their twitter feed pretty soon after it happened.

From those pictures, it doesn't look like the engine was hit at all, just the nacelle. Still important, but way easier (and cheaper!) to repair/replace.

Tom.


User currently offlinec5load From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 917 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 20716 times:

What I am trying to figure out is how it happened. It doesn't say the cause in the story. Did the airplane get towed into the tug, or did someone accidentally drive the tug into the airplane?


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User currently offlinekl671 From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 20623 times:

Quoting c5load (Reply 3):
It doesn't say the cause in the story. Did the airplane get towed into the tug, or did someone accidentally drive the tug into the airplane?

The link states that the tug was parked at the time of the incident.


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31259 posts, RR: 85
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 20584 times:
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The nacelle has been repaired / replaced and the plane is back in flight test, per the latest reports.

User currently offlinec5load From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 917 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 20182 times:

Quoting kl671 (Reply 4):
The link states that the tug was parked at the time of the incident.

Guess it might help if I hadn't just breezed through the article.   



"But this airplane has 4 engines, it's an entirely different kind of flying! Altogether"
User currently offlineua777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 19272 times:

You would think Boeing would want a wing walker on all their aircraft regardless of how remote or unpopulated the airport is. Though VCV is obviously full of aircraft movements.

The aircraft was clearly tugged into the parked tug as the damage was contained to the front of the engine (implying it was struck from the front).

Boo-boo for whoever was doing the ground movement.



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User currently offlinecf6ppe From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 18999 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 5):
The nacelle has been repaired / replaced and the plane is back in flight test, per the latest reports.

From the blog item and photos, it appears that the damaged area is confined to the nose cowl. Most likely, the damaged nose cowl was removed and replaced with a serviceable (mostly likely, a new) unit.

What happened here happens in use in the industry. Usually, the damaged hardware is removed and replaced and the damaged hardware is sent to a capable sheet metal shop or returned to the manufacturer who has the proper jigs and parts needed to affect a repair.

Anyway, there is usually a lot of high decibel conversation; sometimes the conversation is one-way... if you get the drift...   


User currently offlinedanimarroquin From Colombia, joined Jan 2005, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 18878 times:

wow, I was just thinking how massive this engines are , that even engine number four is so closed to the ground that it could hit a towing truck . which is the lowest vehicle in a airport " amazing " !!! .

User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2199 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 18449 times:

This incident has been discussed for several days already in following thread :
Official 747-8 Flight Tracking Thread (by moderators Feb 19 2010 in Civil Aviation)



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User currently offlineMrSkyGuy From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1214 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 18331 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 10):
This incident has been discussed for several days already in following thread :
Official 747-8 Flight Tracking Thread (by moderators Feb 19 2010 in Civil Aviation)

In defense of the OP, the thread you've quoted is huge and difficult to follow.. this was an isolated incident not truly a "flight tracking" report/discussion.  



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User currently offlineFX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 17935 times:

Wow, so that is what it was. I went over there last Thursday and saw them working on the number 4 engine but the way they had parked it, it was hard to see. Although I kind of thought something was up, VCV tower called for the clearance for BOE522 and not too long after I gave it to them, VCV tower called back to cancel the clearence, they just told us that from what they were told it would not be leaving. I do believe it did go today as there was another flight plan that came out this afternoon.

FX1816


User currently offlineORDFan From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 378 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 9391 times:

Actually, I'm kind of surprised at how much damage there was to the tug compared to the engine cowl. I would think that the cowl/engine to be the more fragile of the two, but by the look of those photos, I'd say the tug got the worst of the collision! Pretty impressed by the cowl's overall sturdiness....

User currently offlinedragon6172 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 9111 times:

Quoting ORDFan (Reply 13):
Actually, I'm kind of surprised at how much damage there was to the tug compared to the engine cowl. I would think that the cowl/engine to be the more fragile of the two, but by the look of those photos, I'd say the tug got the worst of the collision! Pretty impressed by the cowl's overall sturdiness....

I would guess that it is because the cowl was hit in the direction that it typically has a force applied, while the tug was not.



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User currently offlineAeolus From Mexico, joined Aug 2007, 374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5096 times:

So first incident and not yet delivered... could this go into an incident report even if not flying for a customer yet?

-Aeolus



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User currently offlineFX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3765 times:

Quoting Aeolus (Reply 15):
So first incident and not yet delivered... could this go into an incident report even if not flying for a customer yet?

-Aeolus

I doubt it, this incident has nothing to do with the aircraft itself, they just must not have had wingwalkers while towing it.

FX1816


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