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Why Did Air India Drop Birmingham?  
User currently offlinejayeshrulz From India, joined Apr 2007, 1027 posts, RR: 2
Posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4173 times:

Hello.

Just wanted to know why did AI drop BHX though it had high LF?

There was even a petition to start services again.
If i am not wrong, the route was dropped in 2008.

It was flown DEL-ATQ-BHX-LHR?


Thanks   

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Edit :- http://flyindia.birminghamairport.co.uk

[Edited 2010-06-08 01:52:14]


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User currently offlineoly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6705 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4109 times:

Quoting jayeshrulz (Thread starter):
It was flown DEL-ATQ-BHX-LHR?

It went to Toronto.

http://home.airindia.in/SBCMS/Webpag...mingham-Toronto-from-Amritsar.aspx


Air India dropped its direct Birmingham-Amritsar flight at the end of last year. It had been hoped the flights would return this summer, but the airline announced last week it would be abandoning Birmingham for the moment to focus on its routes to Heathrow.

Why would they lose slots? Or was it a matter of bilateral agreements?

Although its Birmingham-India route was more profitable than any of the London ones, Air India had to drop the service to avoid losing valuable slots at Heathrow because of the way the London airport is run.

http://www.birminghampost.net/birmin...irmingham-to-india-65233-23151364/



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11649 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4012 times:

I presume they had the slots and had to make an aircraft available to use them. But, I take that statement with a pinch of salt. AF, KL, LH, and especially EK all offer highly competitive fares to India from BHX - especially EK. I think it was an easy face saving way out of hot water for them.


Dan  



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User currently offlinejayeshrulz From India, joined Apr 2007, 1027 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 3876 times:

Quoting oly720man (Reply 1):
It went to Toronto.

http://home.airindia.in/SBCMS/Webpag...mingham-Toronto-from-Amritsar.aspx

Sorry a Typo  


To retain the slots at LHR? How could they loose slots when they used to operate there daily?

Tks!



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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3900 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 3727 times:

I love the "Fly India" logo!

http://flyindia.birminghamairport.co.uk/images/welcome.jpg

I wonder if we'll ever see an Indian airline with that sort of thing... It'd look nice!


User currently offlinegr8circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3247 times:

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 2):
AF, KL, LH, and especially EK all offer highly competitive fares to India from BHX - especially EK. I think it was an easy face saving way out of hot water for them.

Well, first of all, the AI flight was direct to ATQ/DEL.....unlike the one-stops offered by the other esteemed airlines you mention....secondly, the AI service via BHX catered to the huge Indian (read Punjabi) community there.....very price conscious and with a tendency to fly an Indian carrier due to food/language comfort......that's why, as pointed out by the opener, AI was apparently doing well on that sector....there was no question of "face saving"...it was a business decision to discontinue BHX for the time being and use the LHR slots...


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11649 posts, RR: 60
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2964 times:

Quoting gr8circle (Reply 5):
the AI service via BHX catered to the huge Indian (read Punjabi) community there.....very price conscious and with a tendency to fly an Indian carrier due to food/language comfort

Yes, there are in the region of 100,000 Punjabis living within the BHX catchment area. But price conscious they are, food and language is not as important - they are not ignorant foreigners living in the UK, they can speak English, so I don't see why the latter is even an issue? The AI service was more expensive, sometimes double the fares on secondary carriers like Turkmenistan Airlines and still a premium to other one stop options. Plus the BHX-YYZ loads were hardly 'thrilling'.

It just makes me think there was an air of convenience - especially considering that BHX has still not returned, despite petitions from the city councillors and influential figures in the community.


Dan  



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User currently offlinejayeshrulz From India, joined Apr 2007, 1027 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2541 times:

Quoting gr8circle (Reply 5):

Well, first of all, the AI flight was direct to ATQ/DEL.....unlike the one-stops offered by the other esteemed airlines you mention....secondly, the AI service via BHX catered to the huge Indian (read Punjabi) community there.....very price conscious and with a tendency to fly an Indian carrier due to food/language comfort......that's why, as pointed out by the opener, AI was apparently doing well on that sector....there was no question of "face saving"...it was a business decision to discontinue BHX for the time being and use the LHR slots...

Well, but the "Time Being" is coming back though....

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 6):

Yes, there are in the region of 100,000 Punjabis living within the BHX catchment area. But price conscious they are, food and language is not as important - they are not ignorant foreigners living in the UK, they can speak English, so I don't see why the latter is even an issue? The AI service was more expensive, sometimes double the fares on secondary carriers like Turkmenistan Airlines and still a premium to other one stop options. Plus the BHX-YYZ loads were hardly 'thrilling'.

It just makes me think there was an air of convenience - especially considering that BHX has still not returned, despite petitions from the city councillors and influential figures in the community.


Dan

Well said, And YYZ also has a good load too.
As mentioned, to use the slots at LHR. But dont they have enough aircrafts to fill in both the airports?
how many slots does it have at LHR? and how many at BHX?



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