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Vietnam Airlines Now Part Of Skyteam  
User currently offlineworldtraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4553 times:

HANOI, Vietnam, June 10 /PRNewswire/ -- During a ceremony held in Hanoi today, Vietnam Airlines officially joined the SkyTeam global airline alliance. SkyTeam is increasing its focus on Asia as a whole, and by welcoming its first member in Southeast Asia, the alliance significantly strengthens its network reach in the region.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Vietna...ns-prnews-1138400007.html?x=0&.v=1

Skyteam's focus on building its Asia will provide many opportunities for new service by each of the members of the alliance.

"SkyTeam continues to improve Delta customers' access to some of the globe's most important commercial and tourism destinations," said Delta CEO Richard Anderson. "The addition of Vietnam's leading airline to SkyTeam positions our alliance as the fastest growing in Asia and builds on the planned addition of China Eastern Airlines."

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Delta-...am-prnews-2999693119.html?x=0&.v=1

Welcome to Skyteam, VN.

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User currently offlinegardermoen From Australia, joined Jul 1999, 1520 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4502 times:

I could be wrong but didn't VN announce its intention to join Skyteam some time during this year only? I swear it was only recently this news was public, and already they are in the alliance.
Is this some kind of a record between announcing and actually joining an alliance?

On another note, with VN in and apparently Garuda on its way, will Malaysa Airlines ever become part of Skyteam as often discussed?
Perhaps MH could pursue the oneworld path (its only other Asian partners being CX and JL - so no SE Asian based carrier)


User currently offlineDalb777 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2192 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4285 times:

Quoting gardermoen (Reply 1):
I could be wrong but didn't VN announce its intention to join Skyteam some time during this year only? I swear it was only recently this news was public, and already they are in the alliance.

Sounds like they officially became a FULL Skyteam member, versus an associate, or partial membership, or whatever they call it.



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User currently offlineboeingfever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4257 times:

Quoting Dalb777 (Reply 2):
Quoting gardermoen (Reply 1):
I could be wrong but didn't VN announce its intention to join Skyteam some time during this year only? I swear it was only recently this news was public, and already they are in the alliance.

Sounds like they officially became a FULL Skyteam member, versus an associate, or partial membership, or whatever they call it.
SkyTeam Signs Preliminary Membership Agreement with Vietnam Airlines

Signed an agreement over a year ago to join Skyteam.



Faire du ciel le plus bel endroit de la terre.
User currently offlinecharliecossie From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 479 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4243 times:

And hard to imagine a worse airline (although I'm sure there are plenty).

User currently offlineAsiaflyer From Singapore, joined May 2007, 1125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4155 times:

Quoting charliecossie (Reply 4):
And hard to imagine a worse airline (although I'm sure there are plenty).

And how do you come to that conclusion?



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User currently offlinecharliecossie From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 479 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4089 times:

Quoting Asiaflyer (Reply 5):
And how do you come to that conclusion?

Years of maintaining their heaps of junk.
Staff that can't spell "punctuality". STD 14:40. ATD sometime later than that.
Pilots that have trouble with even the most basic technical English.
Pilots that like a snooze over Prague.
Fly to a major European airport without carrying a spares kit, joining the IATA technical pool or positioning even a bloody mainwheel with your maintenance provider.
Providing no technical documentation for your maintenance provider because it's all carried on the aircraft. Sometimes.
Pilots that "forget" to write no-go status messages in the log.
Electrically operated seats in business class which fail regularly. Many manual cables broken. Seats sold.
One plane flew for *years* with a third of the seat back video handsets inop. *Years*.

A bloody shower.


User currently offlineglobalflyer From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 925 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4064 times:

Any ideas if VN will add service to the US Mainland to connect to DL Hubs (maybe LAX)?


Landing on every Continent almost on an annual basis!
User currently offlineCoal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1987 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4011 times:

Quoting charliecossie (Reply 4):
And hard to imagine a worse airline (although I'm sure there are plenty).

Admittedly they are not the best, but they have improved.

I still think it's not such a great choice. SkyTeam signed up a Vietnamese carrier today, not a SE Asian carrier. VN will not become for SkyTeam what TG or SQ are for Star, namely because pretty much everybody needs to get a visa to enter Vietnam, and with better alternatives through visa-free airports, I am not really sure this was such a great move. MH would have been a better choice.

Cheers
Coal



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User currently offlinetrex8 From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 4692 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3995 times:
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is CI next to join skyteam then?

User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3735 times:

Quoting trex8 (Reply 9):
is CI next to join skyteam then?

No that will be Tarom (official entry date June 25th 2010).


User currently offlinedavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2305 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3565 times:

Quoting Coal (Reply 8):
VN will not become for SkyTeam what TG or SQ are for Star, namely because pretty much everybody needs to get a visa to enter Vietnam, and with better alternatives through visa-free airports, I am not really sure this was such a great move. MH would have been a better choice.

Coal,

I agree. VN is NO WHERE close to where SQ or TG is at. I keep hoping MH will enter....but not so far. I think at least it could help build up some flights/access NRT and Hong Kong to Saigon and Hanoi.

Dave



Can I have a mojito on this flight?
User currently offlineAsiaflyer From Singapore, joined May 2007, 1125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3367 times:

Quoting charliecossie (Reply 6):
Years of maintaining their heaps of junk.

Thanks for clearifying...  

I have been flying VN a few times in Asia, and have mostly good experiences.
Meals are great, but FA's could look more happy.

Sometimes is good not to know whats going on in the cockpit....  Wow!  



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User currently offlineVN777 From Vietnam, joined Nov 2007, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3189 times:

Quoting globalflyer (Reply 7):
Any ideas if VN will add service to the US Mainland to connect to DL Hubs (maybe LAX)?
http://www.thanhniennews.com/2010/Pages/20100607180627.aspx


"Vietnam Airlines Corp. said it may start flights to the US as soon as the second half of next year if American and Vietnamese regulatory authorities can reach an agreement.
The state-owned airline applied to American regulatory authorities in 2008 to begin flights from Ho Chi Minh City to Los Angeles via Osaka"


VN also has painted a 332 in ST livery. The result is not pretty IMHO.
http://www.saigon-gpdaily.com.vn/Travel/2010/6/82821/

This bird will be a regular in HAN, DAD, SGN, NRT, KIX, ICN, TPE and soon SIN and MEL.

VN777


User currently offlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 2985 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3106 times:

Quoting gardermoen (Reply 1):
I could be wrong but didn't VN announce its intention to join Skyteam some time during this year only? I swear it was only recently this news was public,

Maybe you were thinking about China Eastern?

Good news for SkyTeam...and TAROM is right around the corner. Any chances for any other airline to join/announce intentions of joining before MU?

CI? MH? Hasn't AH announced intention of meeting SkyTeam criteria to join?



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User currently offlineAsiaflyer From Singapore, joined May 2007, 1125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2999 times:

Quoting VN777 (Reply 13):
VN also has painted a 332 in ST livery. The result is not pretty IMHO.

Colours has been messed up in that pic. Just look at the blue T7 behind.



SQ,MI,MH,CX,KA,CA,CZ,MU,KE,OZ,QF,NZ,FD,JQ,3K,5J,IT,AI,IC,QR,SK,LF,KL,AF,LH,LX,OS,SR,BA,SN,FR,WF,1I,5T,VZ,VX,AC,NW,UA,US,
User currently offlinevietcolin From Vietnam, joined Sep 2005, 40 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2867 times:

Quoting charliecossie (Reply 6):

Quoting Asiaflyer (Reply 5):
And how do you come to that conclusion?

Years of maintaining their heaps of junk.
Staff that can't spell "punctuality". STD 14:40. ATD sometime later than that.
Pilots that have trouble with even the most basic technical English.
Pilots that like a snooze over Prague.
Fly to a major European airport without carrying a spares kit, joining the IATA technical pool or positioning even a bloody mainwheel with your maintenance provider.
Providing no technical documentation for your maintenance provider because it's all carried on the aircraft. Sometimes.
Pilots that "forget" to write no-go status messages in the log.
Electrically operated seats in business class which fail regularly. Many manual cables broken. Seats sold.
One plane flew for *years* with a third of the seat back video handsets inop. *Years*.

A bloody shower.

What a great inside sharing. More information please!



If things don't go right, turn left!
User currently offlinecchan From New Zealand, joined May 2003, 1759 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2829 times:

Any idea what will happen to their FFP Golden Lotus Plus? In the past, regular (registered) members are not provided with a plastic membership card. To get a membership card, one needs to fly with them at least once per year to qualify for silver, and to requalify each year. The silver card was only valid for 1 year. Now with the other Skyteam members, I guess going without a membership card as a regular member will be a problem?!

User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1684 posts, RR: 31
Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2789 times:

Quoting VN777 (Reply 13):
The result is not pretty IMHO.

Indeed !!! They did a very bad paint-job in MNL  

Moreover, the Vietnam Airlines title is not horizontal (like Skyteam title)...

Hopefully, VN will re-paint VN-A371 soon (with the correct silver coating too: see KL/AF/KE for example)...



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User currently offlineUAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2775 times:

I am not exactly sure what this really brings to the table in terms of significant coverage for ST in Asia but good luck on that front. As noted above your not going to get anybody transitting through Vietnam what with visa restriction and VN itself is hardly an airline steeped in tradiotion of providing great service although I am sure it can only get better, so its SQ, TK etc all the way in my book or CX

User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8486 posts, RR: 55
Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2715 times:
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Quoting charliecossie (Reply 4):

And hard to imagine a worse airline (although I'm sure there are plenty).


- I had 4 very good flights with them earlier in the year, thought they were pretty good.



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User currently offlinetennis69 From Qatar, joined Apr 2007, 399 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks ago) and read 2385 times:
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Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 20):
I had 4 very good flights with them earlier in the year, thought they were pretty good

I've had 64 flights with them and another 2 scheduled in July and have nothing bad to say about them. Welcome to ST.


User currently offlinehuaiwei From Singapore, joined Oct 2008, 1113 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2266 times:

Quoting tennis69 (Reply 21):
I've had 64 flights with them and another 2 scheduled in July and have nothing bad to say about them. Welcome to ST.

If expectations are set pretty low, most flights on the worst airlines on this planet will pass without a single complaint either. 

[Edited 2010-06-12 03:13:27]


It's huaiwei...not huawei. I have nothing to do with the PRC! :)
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