Dash9 From Canada, joined Nov 2008, 221 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 28051 times:
hello. I'll spend 3 months in France this summer, have rent a car over there and will carry my car GPS to use it over there. I was wondering if it will be capable of pinpointing my location while in flight from YUL to CDG? I obviously don't have 'North Atlantic' street maps but would it prevent it of calculating latitude and longitude? Finally, are GPS devices forbidden in a passenger aircraft? Its not transmitting anything..
Fly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 28061 times:
Quoting Dash9 (Thread starter): I obviously don't have 'North Atlantic' street maps but would it prevent it of calculating latitude and longitude
At the very least it should give you lat/long. But a normal handheld GPS used for hiking would be much better for your purposes. Also, you will not get any signal at all unless you put it right up to the window, and you'll have a poor signal at that.
Quoting Dash9 (Thread starter): Finally, are GPS devices forbidden in a passenger aircraft? Its not transmitting anything..
ixemctdca From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 27766 times:
This is the result from one of "my friend's" phone
Created by My Tracks on Android.
Total Distance: 827.05 km (513.9 mi)
Total Time: 1:18:31
Moving Time: 1:09:39
Average Speed: 698.87 km/h (434.3 mi/h)
Average Moving Speed: 712.46 km/h (442.7 mi/h)
Max Speed: 754.20 km/h (468.6 mi/h)
Min Elevation: 6775 m (22228 ft)
Max Elevation: 12104 m (39711 ft)
Elevation Gain: 12151 m (39865 ft)
Max Grade: 24 %
Min Grade: -1 %
richierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4366 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 27354 times:
I held up my Garmin to the window on a ATL-FLL flight I took last month - it took a few minutes to "acquire satellites" but then it worked fine. I have a picture of it showing my altitude (39,336 feet) and speed (514mph)! And the streets wizzed by pretty quickly too, but because we were not on a road, the background was mostly empty.
Archer From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 26795 times:
The best way to know where you are is an aviation GPS.
Garmin makes a lot of models.
I've been looking at a Garmin 396 (I believe that's the number) for around $350.
It will work if you hold it against the window. The neat thing is they show the nearby
airports etc. I have been using an Airmap 500 for several years. They aren't made anymore
and it is slow to pick up the satellites. The newer ones like the 396 are much better, I'm sure.
They don't usually come with both domestic and international chips (data bases) so if you're
going to Europe have both. I paid $50 for an int'l chip several years ago.
Sportys.com sells them or look up aviation GPS on the net.
I love to use it and have never been told not to use it.
I put it away when they say the thing about electronic devices.
richm From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 803 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 26442 times:
I tried it with my Tomtom when I went to Majorca last summer. Only downside though is that it decided to shout out "TURN AROUND WHEN POSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!". I had the volume set to maximum and I forgot to turn it down. I was surrounded by strangers and felt like a complete numpty.
Has anyone actually encountered any problems with cabin crew while using a GPS on board an aircraft?
Daninafryingpan From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Mar 2010, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 26411 times:
I don't see why GPS devices should be banned on aircraft. I know that on any flights i've had they don't mention GPS's but just the usual electronic devices announcement. The fact that the aircraft also uses a GPS would suggest to me that a passenger using his/her own Garmin or TomTom for example wouldn't cause any problems.
My friend used hers on a flight once and got the same high speed readings.
Fly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 25357 times:
Quoting FRAspotter (Reply 12):
Uh iPods and handheld video game consoles are "portable electronic devices" but you can use them on a plane. Just not during taxiing, landing and takeoff...
Forgot to add that caveat.
Quoting Daninafryingpan (Reply 14): The fact that the aircraft also uses a GPS would suggest to me that a passenger using his/her own Garmin or TomTom for example wouldn't cause any problems.
Except the one in the plane is CERTIFIED for use in the plane, therefore guaranteeing there will be no risk of interference. There's no guarantee any random electronic device will not make interference regardless if it is designed to transmit or not.
COS777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 24271 times:
Quoting richm (Reply 13): Has anyone actually encountered any problems with cabin crew while using a GPS on board an aircraft?
It's been hit and miss for me. I've had a flight attendant tell me to turn it off on a couple of occasions. I think most of the time it doesn't occur to them what it really is. Back when GPS was still pretty new, a flight attendant was actually really impressed with it and wanted to see where we where. Most of the time I use an old Garmin GPSMAP 12 and it works as long as I am next to a window. I think many of the newer GPS units have a much more sensitive antenna, so you may not have to be next to a window I'm guessing.
I can understand why devices that transmit are not allowed on aircraft for obvious reasons. However, the whole idea behind prohibiting devices that only receive doesn't really seem to make a lot of sense. The radio waves from a radio station, TV broadcast, or GPS are going through the airplane regardless of whether or not the unit is on. I doubt a GPS would give off any more electromagnetic interference than an iPod or laptop.
N200WN From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 786 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (4 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 22712 times:
Southwest allows the use of GPS devices and they are listed as approved in the Spirit Magazine. My Nuvi 300 series works great and even has the runways and taxiways on the maps. You just have to zoom out a bit once at cruise so you're viewing just cities, major highways, and geographic features rather than all the streets down below. Getting the initial signal can be a little tricky but it has always worked.
: It's fine. Doesn't transmit. Used it on a WN flight. Shows car going over 500mph! But, you have to be on a window seat.