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CLT Ops Since New Runway Opened  
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6613 posts, RR: 20
Posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3682 times:

Didn't see much on a.net, but looking through some pics on other websites, looks like there are still some landings on 18C. I'm guessing they are greatly reduced. So, how have the runway ops changed since the new runway opened? Also, in the morning, can one be at the obs area and simply point the lens westward for good shots of arriving traffic on 18?


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User currently offlinekbpilot5 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 192 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3612 times:

In North ops they usually still land and depart on 36C and 36R. Depending on traffic they use 36L.
In South ops they land 23 and 18R, depart 18C and some 18L.

Anyone have an estimate of a taxi time landing on 18R going to the terminal?


User currently offlinemaxpower1954 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 1159 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 3499 times:

Quoting kbpilot5 (Reply 1):
Anyone have an estimate of a taxi time landing on 18R going to the terminal?

About 8-12 minutes, depending on how many departures are on 36C. Russ Farris


User currently offlinetoneale From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 3451 times:

For south ops, you cannot see landings on 18R from the OBS area unfortunately. The obs area is not nearly as enjoyable as a result.

User currently offlinekbpilot5 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 192 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3349 times:

Are there any plans to make a new observation area in a different location?

User currently offlinetoneale From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3285 times:

Doubtful. They had originally planned on eliminating the obs area when the new rwy opened. They do not keep it up at all as it is. I think they look at it as a pain in the neck.

User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6613 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2978 times:

So to confirm, there are minimal landings on 18C, correct?


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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2954 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 6):
So to confirm, there are minimal landings on 18C, correct?

I landed on 18C on Friday evening on a United Express CRJ-700 from O'Hare. A US Airways A321 came in after us on 18C.


User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23302 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2907 times:

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 7):
I landed on 18C on Friday evening on a United Express CRJ-700 from O'Hare. A US Airways A321 came in after us on 18C.

In good weather, I don't know why they'd use the new runway at all; the old airfield could handle what US throws at it in VFR conditions.



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User currently offlinethenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2684 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2755 times:

Pilots are more than likely requesting to land on 18C, since it reduces taxi time.

Thenoflyzone



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User currently offlineKcrwFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3847 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2726 times:

I flew in a few months back on a CR2 and we landed on 18R. It was between 3 and 5pm.

It seems like they love landing on 5-23 as much as possible throughout the day, and especially during the early morning arrival banks.


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2708 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 8):

In good weather, I don't know why they'd use the new runway at all; the old airfield could handle what US throws at it in VFR conditions.

Not to mention, 9:15 p.m. arrivals on a Friday night are not the busiest time at any airport out there...

When I landed on 18R a couple of months ago, it was a good 10+ minute taxi from there to the E Concourse.


User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3173 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2491 times:

I believe they usually save 18C for widebody aircraft. I was at the observation area the other day, for about maybe 45 mins, and all I saw land there were an LH A346 from MUC, an US A333 from FRA, and an US A333 from FCO. There were no other landings, just takeoffs.

18C is also the longest runway at CLT at 10,000 ft, so my guess is its just for widebodys now during peak hours.



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User currently offlinemaxpower1954 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 1159 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 2354 times:

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 12):
I believe they usually save 18C for widebody aircraft. I was at the observation area the other day, for about maybe 45 mins, and all I saw land there were an LH A346 from MUC, an US A333 from FRA, and an US A333 from FCO. There were no other landings, just takeoffs.

18C is also the longest runway at CLT at 10,000 ft, so my guess is its just for widebodys now during peak hours.

No, all traffic uses 18C/36R. The new west runway is used for arrival traffic during heavy departure banks. Speeds things up considerably not having to sequence departure traffic with the arrivals. If the arrival traffic is light like during the period you were there, they will sequence them with the departures, heavy or not.


User currently offlinecltguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2190 times:

I went to BTS and downloaded some data for April 2010 (latest available) and April 2009 to compare Taxi Times and Delays for before and after the new runway.

This is just one month but the results are mixed. For Departures there is a noticable differance with the new runway. Departure Delays are down 32% from 15% delayed to 10% Delayed
Departure Taxi Times are down 28% from 24 min to 17 min Avg Taxi Time

The data for Arrivals is mixed.
Arrival Delays are down 44% from 18% Late to 9% Late Arrivals
Arrival Taxi Times are Up 8% from 6 min to 7 min

So Departures are quicker but Arrivals are slightly slower with the new runway. At least that was the case in April 2010. Maybe as more data will come in the Arrival Taxi Time will come down too...but 7 min Taxi Time is still pretty good.


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