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UK Remains WC Host Nation’s Leading Country Market  
User currently offlineannaaero From United Kingdom, joined May 2010, 12 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 3 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2034 times:

With the FIFA World Cup getting under way in South Africa this week, the demand for air travel to and from the South Africa from many of the participating nations is likely to see a surge in June and July.

According to OAG, the UK is still the biggest country market from South Africa, with a scheduled seat capacity (non-stop) of some 16,000 in August 2010.

The runner-up is the United Arab Emirates thanks to Emirates serving all three major South African airports daily from Dubai.

It’s interesting to see that US ranges 48th among all analysed countries. Its non-stop service has just celebrated its first anniversary having started on 1 June 2009.

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User currently offlinePanman From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Aug 1999, 790 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2012 times:

SAA have been using a B744 to replace one of the daily A346's and I assume it's for the jump in demand owing to the world cup.

PanmaN


User currently offlinevv701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7531 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1873 times:

CAA statistics show there were a total of 1,465,431 scheduled passengers on direct flights between the UK and the RSA in 2009. Of these 921,194 (63 per cent) flew between LHR and JNB and 544,751 between LHR and CPT.

Quoting annaaero (Thread starter):
According to OAG, the UK is still the biggest country market from South Africa, with a scheduled seat capacity (non-stop) of some 16,000 in August 2010.

But if you divide the passengers carried by 12 (to get an average number of passengers per month for 2009) you get a total of 122,119. And if you look at BA's schedule this coming August they will operate two daily flights to JNB (BA055 and BA057) and a third flight (BA033) on days 2,4,5,6 and 7.

If my math is right that makes a total of 84 BA flights that month. All are operated by 744s and on this route I believe they use the low density 'Hi J' configured aircraft each with 291 seats. So, with the return flights, BA will offer 48,888 seats to JNB. Add if we add in BA's daily flight to CPT, also on a 744 but, I believe, in their 'MidJ' configuration (with 364 seats) there are another 22,568 seats.

Without the SA and VS flights we have 71,456 seats on offer from BA. So if the OAG figure is 16,000 it is very wrong. Could there be a typo? Might it be 160,000? That would look a lot more reasonable.


User currently offlineannaaero From United Kingdom, joined May 2010, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1773 times:

Quoting vv701 (Reply 2):
Without the SA and VS flights we have 71,456 seats on offer from BA. So if the OAG figure is 16,000 it is very wrong. Could there be a typo? Might it be 160,000? That would look a lot more reasonable.

Oh, sorry, that was a mistake. I had a look at the OAG data again, and it should be 16,000 weekly seat capacity, rather than monthly. And it's also one-way, rather than both directions.


User currently offlinevv701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7531 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1724 times:

Quoting annaaero (Reply 3):

Looking better!

BA have 19 weekly flights to JNB. With a 291 seat Hi J 744, that's 5,529 one-way seats. Their CPT daily flight would offer 2,548 weekly seats if it is indeed operated by one of the BA Mid J 744s with 364 seats. So, with a total of just over 8,000 seats they are offering half the available seats.

Yes. Much better.

Thanks for checking back.


User currently offlinecornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1700 times:

Quoting annaaero (Thread starter):
With the FIFA World Cup getting under way in South Africa this week, the demand for air travel to and from the South Africa from many of the participating nations is likely to see a surge in June and July.

According to OAG, the UK is still the biggest country market from South Africa, with a scheduled seat capacity (non-stop) of some 16,000 in August 2010.

The runner-up is the United Arab Emirates thanks to Emirates serving all three major South African airports daily from Dubai.

It’s interesting to see that US ranges 48th among all analysed countries. Its non-stop service has just celebrated its first anniversary having started on 1 June 2009.

If you are going to quote directly from another site you should be clearly marking the source - which i have linked below

http://www.anna.aero/2010/06/15/sout...ld-month-long-football-tournament/

Also note in the graph that the seat capacity you quote was from a graph where ACSA was the source - not OAG, althoguh they may well have got it from them....



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User currently offlinevv701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7531 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1605 times:

Quoting cornish (Reply 5):
If you are going to quote directly from another site you should be clearly marking the source - which i have linked below

He probably did not want to for personal reasons.

Or perhaps you did not notice the direct link between his tag and the name of the site you provided a link to? So that is probably why he provided OAG as a source of the data, which, of course, was correct.


User currently offlinecornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1512 times:

Quoting vv701 (Reply 6):
Or perhaps you did not notice the direct link between his tag and the name of the site you provided a link to? So that is probably why he provided OAG as a source of the data, which, of course, was correct.

I did. But if you are going to quote directly, provide the link to the source - them's the rules on here.

And Ralph Anker and his editorial team that produce anna.aero aren't that sloppy with the mistakes so I doubt they'd be impressed with the above posting......  



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