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AA's B6 Slots Go Into Use November 18th  
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33195 posts, RR: 71
Posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 6007 times:

AA's expanded JFK schedule, which was announced with the JetBlue deal, but not with a date, now has a date: November 18th.

The following will begin on November 18th and should hopefully be bookable this weekend.

New routes:

Cincinnati - 2x ERD
Fort Lauderdale - 2x S80
Indianapolis - 2x ERD
Norfolk - 1x ERD

Expanded frequency:

Las Vegas - +1x daily (total 3x)
London - +1x daily (total 6x)
Miami - +2x daily (total 8x)
Orlando - +1x daily (total 3x)

This is in addition to daily flights to Rio de Janeiro and Tokyo Haneda, both which launch on October 1st.

These twelve flights are using slots acquired from JetBlue. Obviously, AA did not work out a deal with JetBlue just so it can fly an ERJ to Norfolk and add another flight to Vegas. In the spring 2010, there will likely be a slot of slot shuffling as AA/BA/IB coordinate to expand their combined trans-Atlantic presence; while I have little doubt AA intends to keep the four new routes, I suspect the added frequencies might be placeholders for expanded trans-Atlantic service in the spring.


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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5909 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
In the spring 2010, there will likely be a slot of slot shuffling as AA/BA/IB coordinate to expand their combined trans-Atlantic presence; while I have little doubt AA intends to keep the four new routes, I suspect the added frequencies might be placeholders for expanded trans-Atlantic service in the spring.

I assume you meant 2011 Mark?

Regardless, I'm really looking forward to AA expanding with B6. Walsh stated that BA might want to work with B6 as well......

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
Cincinnati - 2x ERD

This one is going up against DL's 2x/flights....will the ERD's have the F-class seats?



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33195 posts, RR: 71
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5890 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 1):
This one is going up against DL's 2x/flights....will the ERD's have the F-class seats?

No First on the ERDs, only the CR7s.

From JFK, the CR7s will operate to Boston, Reagan and Toronto. I am told this will happen in late January 2011.



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User currently offlineDFWEagle From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1076 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5820 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
This is in addition to daily flights to Rio de Janeiro and Tokyo Haneda, both which launch on October 1st.

The Japanese government recently announced that the new slots for US carriers will only become available on 31st October. The new international terminal won’t be ready for opening until 21st October and they want to allow a bit of time for things to settle down before the long hauls begin. Unfortunately, AA is going to have to put back the start date a month later than originally planned.



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 5807 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 1):
This one is going up against DL's 2x/flights....will the ERD's have the F-class seats?

No First on the ERDs, only the CR7s.

From JFK, the CR7s will operate to Boston, Reagan and Toronto. I am told this will happen in late January 2011.

Thanks Mark...will be interesting to see how the MQ route does w/out first.....

I'm trying to look at the "big picture" though.....seems AA is getting its act together -at least when it comes to certain things...



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User currently onlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8457 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5722 times:
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Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 1):
Regardless, I'm really looking forward to AA expanding with B6. Walsh stated that BA might want to work with B6 as well......

IF AA wants to address the mega-mergers of United /Continental plus DL/NW they should consider buying JetBlue. JFK is a key airport for them, this gives AA huge terminals and a slot portfolio second to none. JB doesn't have the union issues USair does and is a healthy firm. Imagine a JFK where AA and Oneword control terminals 5,6,7 & 8.


User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2900 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5696 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):
From JFK, the CR7s will operate to Boston, Reagan and Toronto. I am told this will happen in late January 2011.

Not that I don't see enough CRJ's in the SA)">DL c/s, but I'm kind of excited to see CRJ's in SA)">MQ c/s since I only see the ERJs in SA)">MQ c/s! Is that nerdy? LOL!

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 1):
Regardless, I'm really looking forward to SA)">AA expanding with SA)">B6. Walsh stated that BA might want to work with SA)">B6 as well......

This is going to be very interesting. SA)">B6 is coming out with agreements with a few large international carriers lately...SA)">AA, LH, EI, SA...and they are in different alliances. I am very curious to see how SA)">AA is going to grow w/ SA)">B6 without stepping on too many toes of carriers in other alliances also working w/ SA)">B6.

[EDIT] Folks, sorry, I have no idea why the second part of my previous post completely bugged out, it threw A LOT of extra "SA"'s in there that I didn't type...tried to edit it and it really didn't work.

~H81

[Edited 2010-06-17 16:55:34]


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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5624 times:

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 5):
IF SA)">AA wants to address the mega-mergers of United /Continental plus SA)">DL/NW they should consider buying JetBlue.

It would be useless for SA)">AA to buy out SA)">B6....SA)">AA's cost structure is too high...

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 6):

This is going to be very interesting. SA)">B6 is coming out with agreements with a few large international carriers lately...SA)">AA, LH, EI, SA...and they are in different alliances. I am very curious to see how SA)">AA is going to grow w/ SA)">B6 without stepping on too many toes of carriers in other alliances also working w/ SA)">B6.

LH really won't care as long as their investment makes more money/decent return. Also, they don't have too much of a say anyway. The deal with SA isn't too conflicting.

Both SA)">B6 and SA)">AA realize that the dynamics of the New York Metro area has changed the past couple of years with SA)">DL adding more flights out of JFK and CO/UA potentially merging.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33195 posts, RR: 71
Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5605 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 6):

This is going to be very interesting. SA)">B6 is coming out with agreements with a few large international carriers lately...SA)">AA, LH, EI, SA...and they are in different alliances. I am very curious to see how SA)">AA is going to grow w/ SA)">B6 without stepping on too many toes of carriers in other alliances also working w/ SA)">B6.

All B6 has done is interline agreements so far. American Airlines interlines with over 50 different airlines, including Air France, Aerosvit, Delta, Lufthansa, PIA and United.

Interline agreements have nothing to do with alliances.



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User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11840 posts, RR: 62
Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5597 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 7):
It would be useless for SA)">AA to buy out SA)">B6....SA)">AA's cost structure is too high...

On the face of it, that would seem to be the case. However, I would not rule it out completely at some point in the future.

First, AA's costs may not be so out of line with the industry forever. The costs at other U.S. carriers - including, yes, JetBlue - are quite possibly going to rise in the future as labor and other operational pressures impact their business.

Second, if AA feels in the future a compelling enough strategic opportunity to truly dominate JFK - now that slot controls are firmly in place and capacity effectively fixed - a JetBlue transaction may be viewed as viable. Combining the slot holds of AA and JetBlue together would rocket AA way past Delta at JFK and solidify their operation there as a true hub competitively on par with other Northeastern U.S. hubs and competitive with Continental/United across town at Newark.


User currently offlineqqflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2296 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5544 times:

AA recently announced during a Town Hall meeting for employees that six new international routes will be launched at JFK in 2011, but they did not provide any details as to where or exactly when.


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User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11840 posts, RR: 62
Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5521 times:

Quoting qqflyboy (Reply 10):
AA recently announced during a Town Hall meeting for employees that six new international routes will be launched at JFK in 2011, but they did not provide any details as to where or exactly when.

My prediction:

- Amsterdam
- Bogotá
- Frankfurt
- Glasgow/Edinburgh (one or the other)
- Lima
- Moscow

  


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33195 posts, RR: 71
Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5491 times:

Quoting commavia (Reply 11):
My prediction:

- Amsterdam
- Bogotá
- Frankfurt
- Glasgow/Edinburgh (one or the other)
- Lima
- Moscow

I'm hearing five are in Europe, though.

I bet JFK-BOG will happen on top of those six if the U.S. and Colombia sign Open Skies, which is anticipated by year's end.



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 5284 times:

Quoting commavia (Reply 9):
Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 7):
It would be useless for SA)">AA to buy out SA)">B6....SA)">AA's cost structure is too high...

On the face of it, that would seem to be the case. However, I would not rule it out completely at some point in the future.

First, AA's costs may not be so out of line with the industry forever. The costs at other U.S. carriers - including, yes, JetBlue - are quite possibly going to rise in the future as labor and other operational pressures impact their business.

Second, if AA feels in the future a compelling enough strategic opportunity to truly dominate JFK - now that slot controls are firmly in place and capacity effectively fixed - a JetBlue transaction may be viewed as viable. Combining the slot holds of AA and JetBlue together would rocket AA way past Delta at JFK and solidify their operation there as a true hub competitively on par with other Northeastern U.S. hubs and competitive with Continental/United across town at Newark.

Possibly-but looking at data, B6's cost structure is still a bit lower than AA's. It will take quite sometime before the cost structure is anywhere near AA's, and that is assuming AA's cost structure won't increase (which it will-albeit slightly).

If AA were to purchase B6, it would dismantle a number of routes (as its done with SJC, etc)....

I think the best way to get the most out of B6 right now at least is to buy a stake in B6 (which it can do more of than LH due to ownership laws) and get it into OneWorld.



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User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11840 posts, RR: 62
Reply 14, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 5265 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 13):
It will take quite sometime before the cost structure is anywhere near AA's, and that is assuming AA's cost structure won't increase (which it will-albeit slightly).

AA's costs will never be as low as JetBlue's. But, as I said, if the cost gap narrows even marginally, and AA feels the strategic value is great enough, I wouldn't rule it out.

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 13):
If AA were to purchase B6, it would dismantle a number of routes (as its done with SJC, etc)

Dismantle, or downgrade to Eagle. For example, if AA were - hypothetically - to buy JetBlue, flights from JFK to places like Buffalo, Syracuse, Burlington, Richmond, etc. will become Eagle RJs.

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 13):
I think the best way to get the most out of B6 right now at least is to buy a stake in B6 (which it can do more of than LH due to ownership laws) and get it into OneWorld.

Agree.


User currently offlineweb500sjc From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 5210 times:
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Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 13):
I think the best way to get the most out of B6 right now at least is to buy a stake in B6 (which it can do more of than LH due to ownership laws) and get it into OneWorld.

how about that and then make a AA Jetstar, meaning AA can focus in premium passengers and leave B6 as a LCC domestic feeder with high capacity, low yield routes in the caribbean.

of course for this to happen, AA would have to not merge with B6, but buy them out and operate it as a totally seperate airline, which i am sure QF could help them out with the logistics.



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33195 posts, RR: 71
Reply 16, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5203 times:

Quoting web500sjc (Reply 15):
but buy them out and operate it as a totally seperate airline,

If the unions would allow this, it probably would have happened already.



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User currently offlineocracoke From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 690 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5163 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
Obviously, AA did not work out a deal with JetBlue just so it can fly an ERJ to Norfolk

Hey...what's wrong with that?

Quoting commavia (Reply 11):
- Amsterdam
- Bogotá
- Frankfurt
- Glasgow/Edinburgh (one or the other)
- Lima
- Moscow

Would this be AA's 2nd or 3rd attempt at JFK-FRA?

Quoting commavia (Reply 9):
Combining the slot holds of AA and JetBlue together would rocket AA way past Delta at JFK and solidify their operation there as a true hub competitively on par with other Northeastern U.S. hubs and competitive with Continental/United across town at Newark.

If DL/US are having such a hard time with the slot deal over at LGA, I don't think AA is just going to waltz in and sweep up all of JetBlue's slots without some major DOT forced give-aways.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33195 posts, RR: 71
Reply 18, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5148 times:

Quoting ocracoke (Reply 17):

If DL/US are having such a hard time with the slot deal over at LGA, I don't think AA is just going to waltz in and sweep up all of JetBlue's slots without some major DOT forced give-aways.

Absolutely, but in a merger situation it would be nowhere near as big of a deal. Who would want the slots? Delta would likely not be allowed to get any. CO/UA have Newark.

Southwest maybe? Fine, give them some slots. The money is in trans-Atlantic services anyway.



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 19, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5099 times:

Quoting commavia (Reply 14):
Dismantle, or downgrade to Eagle. For example, if AA were - hypothetically - to buy JetBlue, flights from JFK to places like Buffalo, Syracuse, Burlington, Richmond, etc. will become Eagle RJs.

With AA looking jettison MQ (no pun intended), I'm not so sure how that would go.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 16):
Quoting web500sjc (Reply 15):
but buy them out and operate it as a totally seperate airline,

If the unions would allow this, it probably would have happened already.

  



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User currently offlineweb500sjc From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5046 times:
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Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 16):
If the unions would allow this, it probably would have happened already

all AA have to do is grab a controling share of B6, not nessecarily controlling the airline in day to day, but bring it in to the oneworld fold- and let it do its own thing...

there has to be a way aroud the union thing because QF was able to do it, so AA should be able.



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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1993 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5020 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 8):
All B6 has done is interline agreements so far. American Airlines interlines with over 50 different airlines, including Air France, Aerosvit, Delta, Lufthansa, PIA and United.

Interline agreements have nothing to do with alliances.

LH and 9K are full-blown codeshares, unless you mean between B6 and AA, which will be interlining. Though maybe a codeshare will come at some point.

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 13):
If AA were to purchase B6, it would dismantle a number of routes (as its done with SJC, etc)....

Which is why I oppose it (not that I have any say). If AA buys B6, it's bye bye Boston hub.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 18):
The money is in trans-Atlantic services anyway.

I was wondering how the ATI would affect this. If AA took over BOS-MAD, could that flight be part of the deal? Or could it already since it has AA's code and everything? Or not?



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33195 posts, RR: 71
Reply 22, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5013 times:

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 21):
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 18):
The money is in trans-Atlantic services anyway.

I was wondering how the ATI would affect this. If AA took over BOS-MAD, could that flight be part of the deal? Or could it already since it has AA's code and everything? Or not?

All flights between Europe and the U.S., Canada and Mexico operated by BA, IB and AA are to be part of the joint-business agreement.

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 21):
LH and 9K are full-blown codeshares, unless you mean between B6 and AA, which will be interlining. Though maybe a codeshare will come at some point.

That's true, but they are not full-blown codeshares. They are one-way codeshares. B6 only codeshares on 9K fligths and LH only codeshares on B6 flights. Not full blown whatsoever - they are "feeder codeshares," just one step up from interline.



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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1993 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4978 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 22):
That's true, but they are not full-blown codeshares. They are one-way codeshares. B6 only codeshares on 9K fligths and LH only codeshares on B6 flights. Not full blown whatsoever - they are "feeder codeshares," just one step up from interline.

Well, B6 has said that soon it will be selling LH tickets on their own website, so maybe then it'll go both ways.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 22):
All flights between Europe and the U.S., Canada and Mexico operated by BA, IB and AA are to be part of the joint-business agreement.

I know, but when the deal was announced one of the cities mentioned was MAD. What I was wondering is if IB pax will be switching to B6 in BOS before or after it is taken over by AA (if it happens). The same goes for any BA pax from LHR. With the ATI, BOS-MAD is as much of an AA flight as any others, just with IB metal and crew.



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User currently offlinecrAAzy From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 802 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 5 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4875 times:
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Quoting commavia (Reply 11):
My prediction:

- Amsterdam
- Bogotá
- Frankfurt
- Glasgow/Edinburgh (one or the other)
- Lima
- Moscow

Not a very exciting list IMHO ... would love to see NCE, BUD, IST and BER added to AA's European route map.


25 commavia : 3rd. Perhaps, but again, as MAH said, even having to divest some slots, it would still be a massive JFK slot holding. Plus - who would want them, and
26 Post contains images laca773 : Absolutely not! Where have you been since AA bought & merged with: 1. Air Cal, 2. Reno Air, 3. TWA? AA is not good @ mergers, takeovers at all! !
27 jfklganyc : AA has a bad history of M&A. I doubt they would get approval in the current political environment in DC.
28 Post contains images Jacobin777 : ...true...true...it would be flown by the outsourced carrier. The situation right now however is we don't really know when MQ will (if) will be sold.
29 ocracoke : If no other single airline out there wanted extra JFK slots, I'm sure DL would take some. A AA/B6 would have..what...close to twice as many slots as
30 EwRkId : I think DL has most of the secondary cities served from JFK and AA would be stupid to try them as they probably couldn't support 2 flights a day to J
31 FlyPNS1 : I would bet that Southwest and Virgin America alone could gobble up quite a few slots.
32 commavia : I do not believe the presently regulatory environment - and who knows how long it will be around? - would allow Delta to grab those slots. AA would l
33 Delimit : Sorry for the tangent, but I've seen this referenced many times now and it's always seemed a bit counter-intuitive to me. Any chance someone could po
34 FlyPNS1 : But I think you'd have a hard time convincing New Yorkers that having a popular LCC get gobbled up and replaced with a traditional legacy would be in
35 Post contains links flyby519 : http://www.bts.gov/press_releases/2010/bts021_10/html/bts021_10.html Scroll down to table 10 and 11 for Unit costs per airline. Typically as a company
36 Post contains images Delimit : Right, that I understand. What AA seem to be theorizing is that the other legacy carriers's cost advantage will go away over time, which is the part t
37 commavia : The cost "convergance" that you are speaking about - which, in the context of Arpey's repeated comments about it is generally focused more on labor c
38 laca773 : Perhaps VX bt I don't see WN, by any means picking up any slots @ JFK. That's not a WN market, now if we're talking about LGA, that's a different sto
39 Post contains images Delimit : Thanks for the explanation. I am somewhat surprised there wasn't more to it (AA's position, not your explanation ), as that seems to be a bit rose-col
40 laca773 : I can see Moscow happening if S7 plans on joining OW but otherwise, I wouldn't be so sure. I don't know if the market is drastically different from A
41 MAH4546 : But AA is not DL and has a much stronger position in South America, just as you mentioned in your response to Lima. AA applied for JFK-BOG, daily 757
42 laca773 : Thanks for the information, Mark. DL needs to drop JFK-BOG already and move on. It's sad they can't decide if they're staying or leaving the market.
43 Delimit : DL may be holding onto it partially pending AV's alliance decision. JFK-BOG would probably have a better shot if they had more feed from AV at one en
44 BOACCunard : Interesting that FLL is going to see the S80, not the 757 like most "leisure" destinations. I like the S80 so it works for me!
45 A388 : Is there enough O&D traffic between JFK and AMS or do you need connecting traffic on both ends to make such a route work? SQ operated AMS-EWR in
46 Post contains images SCL767 : Not to mention that AA will be able to codeshare with LP on the route. DL knows that AA will succeed on the route; hence DL's reluctance to discontin
47 JBAirwaysFan : Imagine the stupidity of the DOT/DOJ for allowing that to happen. That allows a huge monopoly that I could never see being authorized.
48 MAH4546 : DL already has an alliance with Avianca and has feed from BOG. Avianca joining SkyTeam wouldn't change much of anything.
49 Delimit : DL has some codesharing and FF reciprocity with AV. I don't know the breadth of that, however, and am not sure how much of it is beyond-BOG. My assump
50 commavia : Terminals aren't really the best way to assess market share. Regardless of which terminals the combined airline might operate, the combined entity wo
51 BOACCunard : True. I guess I am thinking back to earlier in the decade when AA flew the 757 from LGA to various cities in Florida including FLL. Now it looks like
52 SCL767 : No AA B752s operate at FLL anymore. AA operates 3 daily B738 flights at FLL: FLL-DFW daily and FLL-PAP 2x daily.
53 commavia : I'm revising my earlier prediction. Scratch LIM (the LA/LP codeshare suffices just fine in that market) and instead replace it with ARN. I think Swed
54 Post contains images Jacobin777 : Out out curiosity, if DL isn't doing too well on JFK--BOG, why send an A330? How about a smaller plane and keep costs lower? ...
55 jfklganyc : " Out out curiosity, if DL isn't doing too well on JFK--BOG, why send an A330? How about a smaller plane and keep costs lower? ..." To build on the cu
56 SCL767 : IIRC, DL operates the route with a B752.
57 Post contains images Jacobin777 : Oh, you are correct, its Avianca which flies the A330..... ... While I don't dispute that, just curious why DL would fly a plane larger than necessar
58 SCL767 : Dumping capacity. Also, Aires Colombia will launch BOG-JFK on 06/28/10.
59 Post contains images Jacobin777 : Thanks. Interesting.. ....more capacity....
60 bigGSFO : I'm not sure AA would jump into JFK-BOG especially since Lan will be setting up their own Colombian operation soon. They'd probably let them fill that
61 SCL767 : Yes, AA will eventually start that route again. LP will most likely increase frequency on the LIM-JFK route later on as well. LAN's Colombian subsidi
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