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User currently offlineBAfan From United Kingdom, joined May 2008, 189 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8105 times:

I have recently seen some posts on a.net showing that easyjet have leased 3 B757's for the summer.

I was just wondering whether or not we are likely to see them ordering some larger bodies such as the A330/787's to expand their network further in the future?

I would imagine the chances are greater for easyjet than for Ryanair, despite all the hype around RyanAtlantic a few years ago!

What are people's thoughts?

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User currently offlineKristiaand From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8072 times:
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Probably you will see some extra orders for A320's or A321's. It is doubtful that they will go for the A330 and 787's as I don't see them going on the long haul adventure. Long haul on low cost basis is currently only (IMHO) possible for airlines operating from Asia. This due to the financial and operational benefits that could make it succesful.

Air Berlin is currently a nice example about how this can be very difficult, they are making huge loses at the moment. And that even when they do quite some charter work (Well, that's the basis of their long haul flights anyway) which means that you should have some sort of secured financial cashflow as an airline.



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User currently offlineGT4EZY From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 1784 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8028 times:

Obviously there are no public plans on 350/787's at this time. Would they ever do long haul? I'm not sure but ezy once said that ltn-ath was the absolute extent of it's network and viability of the LCC model. Today easyjet are operating sector lengths of almost 6 hours and rumoured to be looking at places such as the Gambia. Ssh, bjl etc are taking the current fleet to their limits so never say never.


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User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4635 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8018 times:

Quoting Kristiaand (Reply 1):
Probably you will see some extra orders for A320's or A321's.

A321s are highly unlikely as they're removing the remaining few they inherited by September this year.

I do know that Stelios is all uppity about the continual expansion of the airline, so it will be interesting to see if they hold off for a few years!



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User currently offlinecolumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7062 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7760 times:

There is definitely a market for low fare UK-US flights, 757s would be the perfect plane for testing the water and see how it will work out  


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User currently offlineivo From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 470 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7691 times:

The ex GB Airways aircraft have different engines: IAE V2500.
They ordered CFM engines for their A319 & A320's

An order for A321 is still possible, with CFM engines.


Ivo


User currently offlineKristiaand From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7322 times:
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Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 3):
A321s are highly unlikely as they're removing the remaining few they inherited by September this year.

They phase these out due to their engines (IAE / V2500) in favour of the CFM's they have on the A319's. And I believe that age was also an issue? However they were happy with the implementation of the A321's capacity to the Canaries and other popular sun resorts.

[Edited 2010-06-19 07:34:36]


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User currently offlineanstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5196 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 7261 times:

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 3):

I do know that Stelios is all uppity about the continual expansion of the airline, so it will be interesting to see if they hold off for a few years!

Hasnt he quit the board (again?&gt Wink


User currently offlinef4f3a From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 7058 times:

the aircraft leased are for the longer sectors such as ssh out of lgw.
The reason though why they have chartered them is that they are under crewed and the wet leased aircraft available are better suited for the longer sectors as they have more capacity

currently 3 757s air finland astreas and titan
and (possibly a titan 767)


User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7570 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 7036 times:

I heard that the Luton B737's are going soon.

Is their final flight known yet.


User currently offlinerichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3749 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 6786 times:

Saw G-ZAPX at STN this morning, a very interesting livery, the acquisition of GT has changed the airline.

User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13023 posts, RR: 100
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 6646 times:
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Quoting Kristiaand (Reply 6):
However they were happy with the implementation of the A321's capacity to the Canaries and other popular sun resorts.

I'm thinking an A321RE would be an excellent fit for Easyjet (to certain destinations).

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineKristiaand From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 5365 times:
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Quoting lightsaber (Reply 11):
A321RE

I suppose you mean ER? Otherwise this is a new model variant for me  .

I believe that they can operate quite well with them now (However, they fly longer stretches now, asking more crew hours (duty hours) but also more rest hours.. leaving them now, in combination with a lack of crew supply, with a shortage of crews). You can operate them to the most southern located Egyptian destination. So they are well suitable for popular leisure destinations as Hurghada and Sharm el Sheikh.

I don't see the capacity highly usable on destinations located on the mainland of Europe. Most probably Barcelona, Lissabon and Faro might be destinations for that amount of capacity. But that is only guessing as I do not know all figures...



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User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13023 posts, RR: 100
Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 5092 times:
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Quoting Kristiaand (Reply 12):
I suppose you mean ER? Otherwise this is a new model variant for me

A321RE has been the a.net slang for 're-engine.'   

Better fuel efficiency expands the markets the A321 is effective.



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User currently offlineFlyCaledonian From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2084 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4983 times:

I thought the 757 aircraft were being leased in as cover aircraft in case an aircraft goes tech over the summer? Wasn't aware they were being rostered flights.


Let's Go British Caledonian!
User currently offlineinitious From Singapore, joined Dec 2008, 1060 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4932 times:

Quoting columba (Reply 4):
There is definitely a market for low fare UK-US flights, 757s would be the perfect plane for testing the water and see how it will work out

We could see how Sun Country's flight work out.  



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User currently offlineBeakerLTN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2009, 292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4012 times:

I, for one would like to see Easyjet hold off expansion for a couple of years and 'find their feet'. They've got a good LCC product, and don't want to see them fall into the hole of having to open and close routes regularly just to keep their business moving. One they have that, then look at moving forward, but not until.


300/319/320/321/330/732/733/734/73G/738/744/772/77W/146/EMB135/EMB145
User currently offlinel33roy94 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 2 months 2 weeks ago) and read 2778 times:

when the 737's go out of service in 2010/2012...(been tols different dates by different crews when flying U2) the cews will be able to switch to airbus's instantly because the crews are multi-trained and the pilots are being trained from boeing to airbus... crew numbers per aircraft should go up...


Easyjet all the way
User currently offlineBAfan From United Kingdom, joined May 2008, 189 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2231 times:

I am wondering whether or not we might see Easyjet order some A321's with CFM engines and Sharklets...

They would look pretty cool in the bright orange livery!


User currently offlineHeeBeeGB From Finland, joined Sep 2007, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2193 times:

If EZY Hadn't taken over GB would they have looked at and added SSH/HRG etc anyway?

User currently offlineMYT332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 20, posted (4 years 2 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1779 times:

Quoting FlyCaledonian (Reply 14):
I thought the 757 aircraft were being leased in as cover aircraft in case an aircraft goes tech over the summer? Wasn't aware they were being rostered flights.

They have quite a few flights from LPL too.

Quoting HeeBeeGB (Reply 19):
If EZY Hadn't taken over GB would they have looked at and added SSH/HRG etc anyway?

Did you work for GT? Either way I seem to recall that U2 were ready to chop the SSH/HRG/PFO routes at first but as they performed so well they've kept them and not only that, they've expanded on them.

I was also under the impressions that GT's ex 321's had centre tanks thus were suited well for the longer sectors which is why they've kept the remaining four (G-TTIC*, TTID, TTIE, TTIF) for so long?

*She was brought back in to the fleet in May 2010 after storage.



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