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What Is 'Iranian Airlines'?  
User currently offlineLH600 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 164 posts, RR: 1
Posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4542 times:

Nice Livery! It looks like they bought this from China.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Irani...ines/Airbus-A300B4-622R/1726704/M/


-What does the rest of the fleet look like?
-What are the destinations?

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User currently offlineeicvd From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2149 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4267 times:

I dont know too much about them, other than its the new name for Saha Airlines.

User currently offlineLH600 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 164 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3850 times:

WOW...

I wonder if there will be any international destinations...


User currently offlineviasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1870 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3758 times:

It's not the new name of Saha Airlines - it's a new airline.

As we talk from Saha Air. Tomorrow (22-Jun-2010) is the last day of Boeing 707 pax operations!


User currently offlineeicvd From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2149 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3669 times:

Quoting viasa (Reply 3):
It's not the new name of Saha Airlines - it's a new airline

Well they are related in some way, the latest edition of JP airline fleets lists EP-SIF/G under Saha Airlines.


User currently offlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 2999 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3665 times:

Quoting viasa (Reply 3):
is the last day of Boeing 707 pax operations!

WHAT?!

Why? Don't those frames have enough life in them for a few more years?



"You haven't seen a tree until you've seen its shadow from the sky."
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3562 times:

Whats with the substandard branding in Iran and China? will they ever get inspired by world class liveries in their neighbourhoods (Saudia, Qatar Airways, Emirates, Gulf, Fly Dubai, Wataniya, Cathay, China Airlines, Korean, Asiana, ANA) just like they are inspired by other global standards for architecture etc. especially China.

User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3858 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3314 times:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 5):
WHAT?!

Why? Don't those frames have enough life in them for a few more years?

I know... very sad news!


User currently offlineaerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2819 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3297 times:

Can't believe SAHA is gone now...oh well, onwards and upwards.


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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6530 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 3043 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 6):
Whats with the substandard branding in Iran and China? will they ever get inspired by world class liveries in their neighbourhoods (Saudia, Qatar Airways, Emirates, Gulf, Fly Dubai, Wataniya, Cathay, China Airlines, Korean, Asiana, ANA) just like they are inspired by other global standards for architecture etc. especially China.

I find the livery OK. And it would be better to use their own culture for inspiration, no need to copy others.



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User currently offlineviasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1870 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 2892 times:

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 8):
Can't believe SAHA is gone now...oh well, onwards and upwards.

I have now the information (directly from Iran) that Saha has one more month with 707 ops!


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2616 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 9):
I find the livery OK. And it would be better to use their own culture for inspiration, no need to copy others.

Huh??? copy and inspire are two different things, and what aspect of the rich Iranian culture is this livery portraying? to me it looks like a third rate design from a CIS country, even they are getting better in the design department now.


User currently offlinedesiguy2447 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2465 times:

The problem with any Iranian airline is the heavily used aircraft flying be it Airbus or Boeing. Most the aircrafts flying in Iran are going to crash at some point do to the age of the aircraft, and the airframe life span. Iran Airways has a huge order with Russia for brand new TU-204 around 35 on order. I don't understand is why the goverment of Iran doesn't forfill the order they placed with Russia, and replace all the ageing Airbus, and Boeing aircrafts they keep flying, and buying.

From a safety standpoint the new TU-204 aircrafts will or should be much safer to fly as they are new. As we know Iran is not allowed be sold any new Airbus or Boeing aircrafts as to all the UN sanctions placed on them.


User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7469 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2454 times:

"Most the aircrafts flying in Iran are going to crash at some point do to the age of the aircraft, and the airframe life span".

A bit alarmist surely.


User currently offlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 2999 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2428 times:

Quoting viasa (Reply 10):
I have now the information (directly from Iran) that Saha has one more month with 707 ops!

And I was looking forward to the day when I would fly on a 707   



"You haven't seen a tree until you've seen its shadow from the sky."
User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6530 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2288 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 11):
Huh??? copy and inspire are two different things, and what aspect of the rich Iranian culture is this livery portraying? to me it looks like a third rate design from a CIS country, even they are getting better in the design department now.

If by inspiration you mean just the idea of improving the livery, I agree. But I don't understand what you mean with the architecture and China.

I didn't say that the livery was inspired by Iranian culture currently, I meant that should they change the livery, it should be. Not inspired by liveries from other countries.

Quoting desiguy2447 (Reply 12):
The problem with any Iranian airline is the heavily used aircraft flying be it Airbus or Boeing. Most the aircrafts flying in Iran are going to crash at some point do to the age of the aircraft, and the airframe life span. Iran Airways has a huge order with Russia for brand new TU-204 around 35 on order. I don't understand is why the goverment of Iran doesn't forfill the order they placed with Russia, and replace all the ageing Airbus, and Boeing aircrafts they keep flying, and buying.

From a safety standpoint the new TU-204 aircrafts will or should be much safer to fly as they are new. As we know Iran is not allowed be sold any new Airbus or Boeing aircrafts as to all the UN sanctions placed on them.

The problem is not so much the age of the frames, but the quality of the maintenance, especially considering the difficulties to import spare parts.



New Technology is the name we give to stuff that doesn't work yet. Douglas Adams
User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2592 posts, RR: 30
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2228 times:

I was in Iran last weekend and took 3 flights on two different Saha Air B707s.

They have indeed been given another month to operate - but even that may get extended, with rumours suggesting they may even be able to operate into 2011.

As for the Iranian Airlines A300-600s, they were both parked on the military side in full colours. It will be interesting to see what developments occur with these and the B707s in the coming weeks.


User currently offlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5314 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2154 times:

Quoting desiguy2447 (Reply 12):
Most the aircrafts flying in Iran are going to crash at some point do to the age of the aircraft, and the airframe life span.

This is hyperbolic B.S.

Check out Iranian airlines' safety records. You might be surprised by what you find. Given the limitations imposed by the sanctions, they have done astonishingly well, especially the big guys with old Western equipment.

Iran Air: one fatal crash with pax in 30 years, caused by an American missile strike on the aircraft
Saha Air: one accident with 3 fatalities during the evacuation, despite those old 707s
Mahan Air: no fatal accidents
Iran Air Tours: three fatal crashes, only one caused by equipment failure (one pilot error, one ATC error)
Caspian Airlines: one crash, possibly equipment failure (cause unknown)

Honestly, given the limitations imposed on them by the suicidally foolish political leadership, I think Iranian airlines have done a heroic job of ensuring passenger safety.


User currently offlinea300 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2091 times:
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Quoting seabosdca (Reply 17):
I think Iranian airlines have done a heroic job of ensuring passenger safety.

Totally agree. That said, there have been three non-fatal Iran Air Fokker 100 crashes over the last 15 years, Other fatal crashes include Iran Aseman F-28, Aria Il-62M, and Gheshm Yak 40 crashes. The Iranian safety records is far better than Indonesia, and the latter is not under US sanctions.

I am looking forward to the enterance of brand new Antonov 140 and Tu 204 to the Iranian fleet. They might not be as efficient as other comparable aircraft, but they will be new and (mostly) sanctions free.



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