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Virgin 747-200 Retirement Questions.  
User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4466 posts, RR: 5
Posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1778 times:

I asked this question a while back but was unable to get an answer. Does anyone know the retirement schedule for the 4 P&W powered 747-200s that are being replaced by the 5 747-400s being delivered this summer? The aircraft in question are:

G-VIRG: Maiden Voyager
G-VGIN: Scarlet Lady
G-VJFK: Boston Belle
G-VLAX: California Girl




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User currently offlineSukhoi From Sweden, joined May 2006, 373 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1691 times:

VLAX & VJFK are being retired this month they are both going to Kabo Air.

Nothing officially confirmed on the other two.

Regards

Paul


User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33280 posts, RR: 71
Reply 2, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1669 times:

MIA-LGW switches from 742 to 744 on 14 June. I'm assuming that's because one of the aircrafts is being retired.


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User currently offlineBoeing747-400 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1662 times:

Poor classics.  Sad

User currently offlineLGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1653 times:

I have been on GIN and man that was 15 moths ago and it was looking tired then!

LGW


User currently offlinePhilB From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1648 times:

If anyone wants to see G-VIRG preserved we could all email Sir Richard.

As to VGIN looking tired, it is the oldest aircraft in the fleet, with a first flight date of 28 April 1971 (just realised that was 25 days after I got married), so for the last couple of years or so it will have hardly been worth spending too much on the cabin or the exterior as the retirement date has been planned, postponed, planned and postponed again. Don't expect a reprieve this time though  Sad


User currently offlineJetstreamer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 329 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1628 times:

I've just come back from MCO this morning on VJFK. There have not been any specific dates announced for the retirement of these four a/c. It is all tied in with the arrival of the new 744s, so it will be approximately another month before we see the final departures. By all means e-mail Sir Richard about G-VIRG. Encourage him to send it to a museum or perhaps keep it in the grounds of his estate in Oxfordshire!

User currently offlineC-GRYK From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 751 posts, RR: 36
Reply 7, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1612 times:

Hey Jetstreamer, do you have an email address for Sir Richard? Would be cool to see him paint it back into the 1984 c/s and maybe restore the original interiors. Anyways I'm close to booking my VS flights this summer, I'll give you the details when they are booked so you could possibly bid on my flights.

Long Live Virgin!
Jeremy



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User currently offlineHL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1615 times:

how do we contact him?

HL  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1615 times:

Does anyone know when BOS is going to 744 from 742?

Jeff


User currently offlineJetstreamer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 329 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1610 times:

I don't have a direct e-mail address for Sir Richard. Sorry! I would suggest e-mailing Customer Relations or Public Relations as they are very good at passing information on to the man at the top.

Jeremy, let me know your dates when they are finalised and I will try and get on the flights.

Jeff, I don't know exactly when BOS is switching onto the 744s. The only information I have at the moment is the last of the new LGW 744s is due for delivery on July 13th, so it should be by then at the latest.


User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 11, posted (13 years 6 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1584 times:

Actually, according to the VS website, BOS-LGW will not go 744 until 29 October. I don't know how reliable that is, but that's what it said.

LH423



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9210 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1562 times:

Virgin is actually looking for FOUR additional B 747-200s. I read an article on this after they have announced their plan to buy up Alitalia's B 744s.



User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1550 times:

Still, October is not bad...by then we'll have two 744 carriers to BOS, BA, and VS!

Jeff


User currently offlineVC-10 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 1999, 3708 posts, RR: 34
Reply 14, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1545 times:
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You won't see any new 400's flying into BOS until they have been in service for six months. This is because the state of Mass. has a law where any new (to a company) a/c have a huge tax charge levied against them EVERY time they go to the state until they are six months old.

User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4466 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1540 times:

Is there a reason why Boston has this tax? I would assume that it was put in place to keep operators from flying in new and "unfamilar" equipment.


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User currently offlineVC-10 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 1999, 3708 posts, RR: 34
Reply 16, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1536 times:
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Unfamiliar to who ?

User currently offlineJet_guy From New Zealand, joined Aug 2000, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1528 times:

Retiring the 742! they just got a load of them from CX, and NZ!!!
Anyway, there where 3 VS 744 at AKL on friday getting all their interiors and stuff done! first time I have seen a VS 744, they look good in that new-ish colour scheme!

Sam  Big thumbs up


User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4466 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1511 times:

New and "unfamilar" to the airline. My thought on the tax is that Boston doesn't want to have to deal with airlines that are using equipment that they have not operated before. Therefore allowing for a "breakin" period in the airlines operations with the aircraft.


"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
User currently offlineVC-10 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 1999, 3708 posts, RR: 34
Reply 19, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1506 times:
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Operating an a/c is not like buying a new car and driving off in it. The crews have to be trained and pass regulatory authority tests as do the ground staff.

Apart from which VS have been operating 400 for 7 years now so it can hardly be descibed as a new a/c.

The tax is just an opportunity for Mass to make a quick buck


User currently offlinePhilb From Ireland, joined May 1999, 2915 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1503 times:

VC10,

Does it apply to US domestic airlines as I've seen very new aircraft at BOS (both in terms of age or new to a carrier) just about every time I visited during the last 20 years?


User currently offlineVC-10 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 1999, 3708 posts, RR: 34
Reply 21, posted (13 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1499 times:
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I don't know.

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