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British Airways Expansion Plans  
User currently offlineBAfan From United Kingdom, joined May 2008, 189 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 20436 times:

During Willie Walsh's keynote speech at Business Travel Market 2010, he stated that had it not been for recession, BA would have already expanded it's operations to the USA.

He went on to say that as well as looking to increase the destinations served from LCY using all Club World A318's, the airline will soon be launching 3 new routes to the USA later this year.

I was just wondering which routes we are likely to see BA opening? Could the LHR-DTW route be restarted now that the car industry has improved slightly?

BA already serves many destinations in the States, so I am just wondering which services we can expect to see opening?

http://www.comparecarrentals.co.uk/news/182227639.html

http://www.breakingtravelnews.com/ne...e-speech-at-business-travel-marke/

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User currently offlineanstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5319 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 20468 times:

A little bit more discussion here
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4837815/


User currently offlinetimboflier215 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 1344 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 20355 times:

They have served DTW, CLT, PIT, ANC and HNL in the past. ANC I guess was purely a fuel stop, and CLT and PIT due to their now terminated agreement with US. Would not be surprised to see DTW come back. No idea what the other two could be though, unless they see an opening on LHR-CLT, as US only serves LGW from CLT.

To be frank, I would rather they beefed up their presence in SE Asia and China before looking to add more flights to the US, but I guess they are happy with their Trans-Atlantic niche and feel that it is there where the money lies.

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Edited to add: I also want them to restart their MAN-JFK and LGW-JFK routes, though I doubt that this will ever occur!

[Edited 2010-06-25 06:00:16]

User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1415 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 20178 times:

A few ideas

LHR-Orlando alongside the LGW operation, there is room for both.
Include Colombo in the LGW-MLE on a triangle routing.
Route Doha via Dammam instead of Bahrain, making Bahrain a stand alone operation.
Osaka could be brought back seen as JL are dropping it.
Durban's new airport could hold potential.
Separating Sao Paulo and Buenos Aires.

Regards

Mike


User currently offlineplanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 20010 times:

Quoting HUYfan (Reply 3):
LHR-Orlando alongside the LGW operation, there is room for both.

Is there? MCO is probably the least likely of all their destinations to operate from Heathrow. Besides, BA are scaling back their MCO flights from 9x weekly to daily next Summer.


User currently offlineSonomaFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1892 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 19888 times:
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BA has flown the LHR-SAN route before with their souped up 777's. Economic issues terminated service both times but loads at times were good. Perhaps they will restart this route. SAN could use a Euro non-stop and the area is more than large enough to support it, the question is whether the economic climate is improved enough to justify the flight.

User currently offlineFilipair From United States of America, joined May 2010, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 19585 times:

Quoting BAfan (Thread starter):
increase the destinations served from LCY using all Club World A318's, the airline will soon be launching 3 new routes to the USA later this year
Quoting timboflier215 (Reply 2):
Would not be surprised to see DTW come back. No idea what the other two could be though,

It seems as though these 3 new routes would be from LCY to existing premium-heavy markets, rather than new routes from LHR/LGW. BOS and IAD come to mind...


User currently offlinetimboflier215 From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 1344 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 19566 times:

The first article linked by the OP implies that the 2-3 new NA routes are in addition to the LCY A318 routes. Of course, it is entirely possible that wires have been crossed, and in fact Willie Walsh was referring to BOS, IAD and ORD from LCY.

User currently offlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2531 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 19476 times:

Not very exciting. BA should try to add some other routes to Asia or Africa!


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User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2708 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 19418 times:

If BA decides to make more use of their B767 and B757, there might be some possible routes to re-start or start betwen London and Eastern U.S.
DTW
CLE
PIT
RDU
JAX
STL
If BA does serve 2 airports in NYC (EWR/JFK) and WAS (IAD/BWI), what would be the chances for another airport in Boston (PVD), Miami (FLL) and Chicago (MKE), even if only seasonal from LGW?
One could even think AUS or SAT for IAH, like MCO and TPA.
A red-eyes London-DFW or London-MIA    if AA doesn't want to fly those.



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User currently offlinebigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2952 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 19386 times:

Quoting BAfan (Thread starter):
Could the LHR-DTW route be restarted now that the car industry has improved slightly?

There has been speculation that once the ATI is in place this route would be served with an AA 757.

Quoting timboflier215 (Reply 2):
ANC I guess was purely a fuel stop

Is there any seasonal traffic between Alaska and Europe?

Quoting SonomaFlyer (Reply 5):
BA has flown the LHR-SAN route before with their souped up 777's. Economic issues terminated service both times but loads at times were good. Perhaps they will restart this route. SAN could use a Euro non-stop and the area is more than large enough to support it, the question is whether the economic climate is improved enough to justify the flight.

San Diego could indeed support a London flight but there are operational restrictions that would penalize it. There are a lot of threads discussing this that go into more detail than what I can recall off the top of my head.

As for other west coast cities, I wonder if San Jose and maybe Portland could support a London flight?


User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3695 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 19365 times:

Quoting HUYfan (Reply 3):
LHR-Orlando alongside the LGW operation, there is room for both.

Most of the MCO traffic is O & D, thus its probably no the best use of an expwensive LHR slot


User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8517 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 19328 times:
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Quoting bigGSFO (Reply 10):
San Diego could indeed support a London flight but there are operational restrictions that would penalize it. There are a lot of threads discussing this that go into more detail than what I can recall off the top of my head

The issue in San Diego is Linburgh Field and its too short a runway for intercontinetal flights. If that was not teh case Tokyo would have been flown to decades ago. BA did try it witha 777 but they probablyn left 40,000 pounds of load on the taremac.


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 19302 times:

Quoting AIR MALTA (Reply 8):
Not very exciting. BA should try to add some other routes to Asia or Africa!

I agree! BA should try to add LHR-BEY, LHR-CMN, LHR-DAM, LHR-IKA, LHR-MLA, LHR-RAK, LHR-TUN etc.


User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2708 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 19202 times:

About BA in Latinamerica:

BA should separate EZE from GRU.
If EZE has to be flown one-stop, best would be to fly via GIG or even via CNF or BSB. No need to argue that EZE must be from LHR.
The only Brazilian destination that might possible work from LGW is SSA.
SCL as a tag-on from GRU or GIG could also be a possibility.
Chances of BA in LIM, BOG, CCS or PTY are too slim now. However IMHO, among those, PTY is the only route OK to operate out of LGW.

Sadly, IB has the last word on what BA can or can't do now in Latinamerica.

And another thing, I can't imagine BA trying to fly to the Falkland/Malvinas Islands via a Brazilian airport.



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User currently offlinerichcandy From UK - England, joined Aug 2001, 734 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 19127 times:

Quoting bigGSFO (Reply 10):
Is there any seasonal traffic between Alaska and Europe?

There used to be some summer charter flights from Germany to Alaska operated by LTU a few years back.

In the days before the 747-400 or maybe because of the cold war most services from Europe to Japan and Korea had a stop at ANC. I don't know about the other carriers but BA sold seats from LON to ANC so it was not just a fuel stop.

I have not been to Alaska and would love to go, I think it could be a big tourist destinations from Europe for people who want to go on walking, nature, eco sort of trips. However I don't think its really a market for someone like BA.

Alex


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 19093 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 14):
SCL as a tag-on from GRU or GIG could also be a possibility.

Wait until LAN receives their B787s, SCL-LHR is a strong possibility.

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 14):
And another thing, I can't imagine BA trying to fly to the Falkland/Malvinas Islands via a Brazilian airport.

LAN Chile still operates weekly between Punta Arenas, Chile and Mount Pleasant Airport, Falkland Islands, U.K.


User currently offlinerichcandy From UK - England, joined Aug 2001, 734 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 19001 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 14):
And another thing, I can't imagine BA trying to fly to the Falkland/Malvinas Islands via a Brazilian airport.

No but I wonder if LON-SCL-Mount Pleasant would work maybe funded in part by the UK Ministry of Defence? Instead of the current charter flights to the Falkland's.

Alex


User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7823 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 18991 times:

I wouldnt look for too much expansion before ATI in North America. After ATI, DTW, BDL, and STL would be good choices.


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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8862 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 18913 times:

Quoting richcandy (Reply 17):
Instead of the current charter flights to the Falkland's.

LAN Chile operates into MPN on a regular basis from both Punta Arenas (PUQ) and Río Gallegos (RGL).


User currently offlinerichcandy From UK - England, joined Aug 2001, 734 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 18836 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 19):
LAN Chile operates into MPN on a regular basis from both Punta Arenas (PUQ) and Río Gallegos (RGL).

Yes I know that but there is also a MOD flight direct from the UK. It used to be operated by the RAF but for the past few years its been operated by a number of airlines on a charter basis (think it 6 times a month). If BA were to restart LON-SCL then a SCL-MPN could be an add-on in place of the charter service. If we start getting oil and or gas from that part of the world then its only a matter of time before more direct services from the UK start.


User currently offlineaznmadsci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3716 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 18660 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 9):
One could even think AUS or SAT for IAH

Do you mean changing one of IAH's flights to AUS or SAT?



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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23309 posts, RR: 20
Reply 22, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 18572 times:

Quoting richcandy (Reply 20):
If BA were to restart LON-SCL then a SCL-MPN could be an add-on in place of the charter service. If we start getting oil and or gas from that part of the world then its only a matter of time before more direct services from the UK start.

Dumb question, maybe, but why would they do this from SCL and not EZE if EZE were made a separate flight?



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User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2708 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 18460 times:

Quoting aznmadsci (Reply 21):
Do you mean changing one of IAH's flights to AUS or SAT?

No, it's adding either AUS or SAT as to back-up IAH or DFW flights a couple of days per week.
London does have a huge draw in the U.S. which other major European cities don't have. There are several U.S. metropolitan areas that could support non-stop London flights, even if only a couple of times per week seasonally.



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User currently offlineLHRFlyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2010, 823 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 18374 times:

Some rumours I have heard are;

Amman
Guangzhou
Santiago

(I assume all from LHR)

There are lots of rumours about new routes at LGW targetted at premium leisure traffic. Various rumours/speculation include:

Caracas
Colombo (as discussed)
Fort Lauderdale
Goa
Phuket
Puerto Rico
Seychelles
Vietnam

BA does need to beef up its Asia/Far East network. Would like to see Seoul added as a destination.


25 IcLCY : Two reasons the Falklands war UK v Argentina in the early 1980's & the new oil/gas fields are also claimed by Argentina who are not very happy wi
26 Cubsrule : I wasn't aware that the FCO told BA what routes it should run...
27 anstar : MNL/SJU/HKT see like good choices but I am not sure HKT has enough real premium traffic to support a dirct non stop service from BA.
28 mutu : Hopefully as Mixed Fleet cost base and other cost efficiencies come through BA will be able to at least break even on asia routes and will start to l
29 steeler83 : As much as I would love to see BA return on PIT-London, I don't see it happening, especially to LCY. Maybe if AA/BA have ATI, I could probably see LH
30 Cubsrule : Don't you have it backwards? With a basically fixed amount of demand to Europe, it seems like PIT-LHR would be MUCH more attractive without another T
31 bastew : There is always talk of EZE being separated from GRU. But in reality the rotation works pretty well. Also the economy is just not stable enough in Ar
32 aznmadsci : Thanks for the clarification. AUS would make more sense than SAT, but still do not see it as an additional flight to either DFW or IAH. With AA/BA AT
33 LAXdude1023 : Agreed. There really isnt a way to make AUS/SAT-LHR/LGW work economically. I dont know if you have seen international number from Texas, but IAH is t
34 LX138 : Not that much and its pretty low yielding traffic. Most of these are very low yielding, if not high in demand, so BA havent done them. No but Argenti
35 GSTBA : WW has been vocal about the The 3 new routes on the A318 will be LCY-SNN-IAD LCY-SNN-ORD LCY-SNN-IAH (If it has the range) other wise LCY-SNN-BOS Alt
36 330lover : About the flights to Falklands / MPN: 2 weekly flights operated by the air force go from Brize Norton via Asencion Island to MPN. LAN operates 1 weekl
37 Cubsrule : I thought they had rescinded that rule, but I may be imagining things - wouldn't be the first time. There, we agree. A better strategy here might be
38 Post contains images selwoode : Edited to add: I also want them to restart their MAN-JFK and LGW-JFK routes, though I doubt that this will ever occur! Amen to that - London Airways e
39 2travel2know2 : Doesn't look like it if flying from GRU or GIG. My guess is that if the Brazilians would allow BA to stop in Brazil enroute to MPN, most likely Brazi
40 BA84 : Portland? LH doesn't recommend it. BA84
41 shamrock604 : Why not go LCY-SNN-DCA? I mean the pax are cleared in SNN anyway, so they arrive as Domestic pax in the US. Would an exemption be possible to the 120
42 SonomaFlyer : On the west coast, Portland, OR doesn't have enough population/traffic to justify a 767 (which is the smallest BA plane which could make the trip). Th
43 MAH4546 : I personally have heard rumors that BA officials have been talking to FLL officials about FLL-LGW. That would be a welcome addition to South Florida.
44 laca773 : Couldn't BA operate LHR-SAN-LHR with one of their 763ERs since the 772s have performance problems due to the short runway @ SAN.
45 jeffrey1970 : I think Condor has seasonal flights from Germany to ANC. I think that since both BA and AF have code share agreements with Alaska Airlines, and they
46 BY738 : What about other UK regional OW codeshares ie GLA-JFK/BOS, BHX-JFK like the good old days ? or is AA metal more likely
47 Dano1977 : I can't see how LHR-ANC would work. ANC maybe busy during the summertime cruise-connection market, but during the winter it would be very lean. I reme
48 LHRFlyer : I think the flight to The Seychelles was an extension from NBO. I can't see a service to Ottawa - Canada is not that strong a market for BA. BA's LHR-
49 SANFan : One of the major BA issues was the lack of ATI; I believe that is no longer a problem and I think this is one reason U.S. expansion is being discusse
50 aznmadsci : That would be very interesting, but as you said probably does not have the range. Do those A318 have extra tanks to do JFK-LCY? Iknow the SNN stop se
51 vin2basketball : Here's what I see happening LGW-FLL LHR-SAN LHR-DTW LCY-HND? application LCY-IAD LCY-ORD all via SNN LHR-CTU LHR-CAN LHR-ICN LHR-KIX LHR-Kolkata
52 magpie75 : It Seems BA are not interested in Australia anymore, it;s amazing they dropped MEL years ago and have not re-instated this port, Last time i checked t
53 Post contains images Jacobin777 : Actually, SJC is the 3rd largest city in California, so you would have to include that city as well...."technically"....
54 Cubsrule : DCA has a perimeter rule, unfortunately.
55 planesarecool : Interestingly (or probably not), if you search for flights to CMB on BA's timetable it comes up with: "There are no British Airways flights available
56 Cubsrule : If nothing else, AA could handle that flight.
57 af773atmsp : I'm surprised no one has said LHR-MSP for one of the new non-LCY routes. Although Delta wouldn't like that, and I'm sure many people will stay loyal t
58 SonomaFlyer : Any/all 763 pilots correct me if I'm mistaken but I do not think the 763 could do this route given the runway and the clearance issues to the west if
59 shamrock604 : Yeah, I know about the rule, but was thinking that there must be some exemptions to it. Could BA gain one potentially? IAD is a real pain in the ass
60 steeler83 : I guess we shall see...
61 MAH4546 : Small market size combined with Delta's dominance makes it extremely unlikely.
62 kiwiandrew : I am not sure why you think it is amazing , this has been discussed before on these forums , BA have a strong local partner with whom they have a JSA
63 IcelandairMSP : Actually, that is a very good question. There have been some albeit very few additional exemptions granted over the years. In addition, the perimeter
64 shamrock604 : It would be a real marketing coup for BA, but I guess LH and AF would want a piece of the action also, especially as both have the right equipment al
65 SANFan : Zoom's "Big Blue" was a 767-300ER (with u/g'd engines) and had no problem with a full payload of pax and fuel -- they did not carry cargo -- on their
66 SonomaFlyer : SANFan, thanks for the reminder, I forgot about ZOOM. I can't see BA skipping out on cargo and I don't think their 767's have the upgraded engine pack
67 2travel2know2 : So SMF can't be included in that group? Hard to believe PDX just can't support B767 to London 3-4 times per week in high-season. If it's mostly O/D P
68 laca773 : It definitely is. Most are shocked to learn this, especially being larger than the city of SFO. Is it still in the 750,000 range? They had to skip ou
69 OA412 : Unless BA can operate the route at least daily, they will not be flying it. A lot of people on this sight constantly suggest 3-4 weekly TATL routes t
70 Post contains images SANMAN66 : Total agreement. I agree with you.I truly believe BA terminated the flight for economic reasons.As SANFan said, part of it had to do with lack of ATI
71 Scotron11 : How about KUL, MNL & JKT/DPS? I know they used to fly to both JKT & KUL in the past, and there was an article last year, cannot remember where
72 njdevilsin03 : LGW-FLL s over do! 767 or 777 routeif it did happen?
73 Post contains images SANFan : As I said, absolutely! (Except for the part about the "because of the shorter runway" but I already talked about that.) BA did (and could continue to
74 SANMAN66 : If there ever was such a thing as a long range 737,and BA wanted to launch it on a SAN-London route, nobody would complain here! I can almost see BA
75 SonomaFlyer : SMF has the runway and other facilities for BA service but I don't see the demand. Not too many big companies are based there, the Calif state govt is
76 laca773 : Right on BB. I hope we'll hear something in the near future about BA reinstating service to SAN! This would be a wonderful thing for SAN!
77 ff22DXB : They should increase MEX to 7x!! Everytime I fly MEX-LHR it looks more than 90% capacity!!
78 BAfan : Is there any chance we will see them ordering some more Embraer's for the LCY operation? I think I am correct in saying they only have 11 aircraft at
79 Post contains links sexyadonis : The main factor that prevents British Airways from re-opening and increasing services to the Australian market is the presence and continue growth of
80 SCL767 : This tends to be the case with most European carriers operating at EZE. Economy is usually packed, but loads tend to be light in F/J. The B767-300ER
81 UAL777UK : If these are a major success if launched do you think an another american carrier other than AA might offer similar routes?
82 tayser : It would be nice, should BA have surplus planes, on starting MEL once again via a new destination like BOM with QF codes (and an expanded JSA), and o
83 Humberside : Caracas and premium leisure????
84 kiwiandrew : Only one plane , true , but they might be able to use that one plane somewhere else in their network to provide a daily service to a higher yield des
85 vv701 : The above and many other suggestions for expansion out of LHR are interesting. But without a suggestion as to where BA would get the LHR slots to ope
86 USAirALB : IMO, I think BA should give LGW-FLL a try. How did Zoom do on this route? I think that there is a chance that BA will come back to CLT, if the economy
87 LHRFlyer : True. But aren't these slots currently being "baby-sat" by some LGW short-haul routes that transferred to LHR temporarily to preserve them?
88 theginge : I think that most expansion in South America for BA will be done using Iberia via Madrid as they are already very strong in that part of the world. Li
89 2travel2know2 : LGW-FLL may be a question of when and not why. Same may be true for JAX and even RSW getting LGW flights one day in the next 5 years.
90 Indy : I wonder if BA will target midsize markets in the U.S.? If they went after places like IND, STL and MKE they could steal most of the international tra
91 Post contains images Jacobin777 : LHR-BWI and LHR-PHL (second flight) sees a B767....One of BA's LHR-ORD was seeing a B767 until recently. City almost 950,000 and metro about 1.8 mill
92 Post contains images BA777ER236 : Wrong assumption! I have flown both (currently on 777) and I can guarantee you that if the 772 struggles out of SAN, then the 763 would be worse! Che
93 Post contains images ABQ747 : LHR-ABQ? Maybe in another 5-10 years.
94 FlyCaledonian : I think BA would look at new routes ex-LHR as part of ATI. This is one of the way the carrier could get slots, by looking at routes where both AA and
95 miaintl : BA should give LUX a try from LHR. Currently the flight is served from Gatwick, however Heathrow provides better connections and better loads probably
96 Cubsrule : I don't see JAX. Though it's physically in Florida, in terms of inbound demand, it's much more like CHS or SAV than like a Florida city.
97 Post contains images SANFan : ZX did OK out of Florida but from what I heard, they were still trying to develop the cruise market connections. I believe their advanced schedule (f
98 MAH4546 : You are not understanding it correctly. There are no route reductions required. The only thing AA/BA/IB must do is make available - temporarily and o
99 SANFan : Thank you for the correction. bb
100 BAfan : Is there any chance we might see a direct flight to Indianapolis? It's a nightmare having to change! San Diego seems like a route that would fit nicel
101 BA174 : Ah I suggested LHR-SCL-MPN a while ago. It could work now that Globespan don't provide the charters/exist anymore. All of the forces could just pack
102 JerseyFlyer : This will require a few more A318s! Any chance that the 5 "A320s" ordered by Iberia and transferred to BA a cou-ple of weeks ago will be delivered as
103 LipeGIG : Latin America will depend upon what IB wants to do. BA presence in Latin America is smaller than LON-NYC and looking how investments from UK are incre
104 eastern023 : On a 77W I take it?
105 LipeGIG : Could be a 744. Would be an easier resource.
106 C010T3 : Why on earth VCP?
107 BAfan : I was thinking the same, get those A318's in early before anyone else starts gettting ideas... I surely hope so!
108 GlobalCabotage : LCY-ORD seems like a good choice with the large amount of traffic on this route (although I'm sure BP would be happy to cut back travel on LHR-ORD). I
109 jfk777 : BA could fly nonstop to Buenos Aires and on to Santiago( 4 times weekly) and fly LHR-GIG-EZE(3 times weekly)
110 2travel2know2 : (1) GRU slots, (2) allowing BA to fly to the Falkland/Malvinas via a Brazilian airport will be a hot potato for Brasilia . (3)Best would be to route
111 C010T3 : It's not uncommon for flights on-route to the Falklands to stop in Brazil. Who do you think is going to buy that?
112 LipeGIG : This could be interesting but my question would be what about crew rotation. And EZE at this point already have daily service, just need a non-stop,
113 BAfan : I hope we will soon be hearing the news that BA has converted the 5 A320 orders it received from Iberia to A318's for new services from LCY! Perhaps a
114 seabosdca : Not likely at all. It would have to get through Congress, and the constituency that would use such a flight is not politically popular these days. If
115 SANFan : Trust me, SAN will be one of the first cities to get DCA service if-and-when, right along with the Bay Area. bb
116 Bogota : That is really sad, as if the UK were not large enough of a market to sustain direct flights by its largest carrier. Most of the premium market will
117 LipeGIG : Bogota, i wouldn't say that they can't sustain the traffic but rather, they rather take the competitive advantage of IB. A second or third daily flig
118 babybus : I'd like to see it focus its attention on expanding out of Manchester, and I don't even live there. Manchester needs to look like a credible second Uk
119 AIR MALTA : That would be actually a very good idea... BA could start some routes JFK, LAX and MIA to relieve LHR a bit. It is time BA came back to the regions i
120 SCL767 : IMO, this is a good route for LAN to fly in the future, (especially now since LAN Chile has Fifth Freedom Rights in Brazil). IIRC, BA used to operate
121 LipeGIG : No doubt, specially being OW to OW hub and the fact that there's no SCL-LHR service at all. Do you remember if they got 5th freedom on that ?
122 SCL767 : No, BA didn't have 5th freedom rights on that route.
123 anstar : And with mixed fleet it mayhave a cost base that would make it more viable.
124 aznmadsci : Surprised no one has much say on this route, especially skeptics. I do need to clarify this now. After driving by Terminal D the other night, I did s
125 Post contains links and images Jacobin777 : Maybe with the JV/ATI coming online things will change-but I doubt it. If anything, BA will probably focus more on MAD than MAN...which I never under
126 Viscount724 : I think Condor has increased their frequency this summer. They appear to have 4 763 flights a week from FRA. Two are FRA-ANC nonstop, one stops in YX
127 LAXdude1023 : Depends on what kind of contracts they can get on it. MIA-MAN is a market that is going to needs some sort of back up even with ATI. If they can get
128 planesarecool : They already have a fully established second hub 40 miles around the M25.
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