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US Airways Pilot Arrested At PHL  
User currently offlinePHLJJS From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 417 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 18708 times:

I just saw this online. Apparently a US pilot was accused of taking pics of a 15 year old girl, up her skirt as she was shopping at the stores in Terminal C. A witness notified a Police Officer, who took the pilot into custody.

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=7519808

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/br...rges_over_photographing_girl_.html

[Edited 2010-06-25 08:37:10]

38 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlinemcdu From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1460 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 18576 times:

If this is true, then he needs to go to jail. Let someone else take advantage of him for change.

User currently offlineASFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1170 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 18337 times:

Pilots are just people too. There are good pilots and bad pilots, crazy pilots and sane pilots. They aren't above reproach.

User currently offlinec5load From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 917 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 18305 times:

This pilot sounds pretty brazen, doing this in a probably very busy airport shop, and having to get down on his knees in order to do this. Something doesn't sound right with this story.   


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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7891 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 18304 times:

I think google image search would have been a better idea than this


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User currently offlinechrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2099 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (4 years 2 months 1 week ago) and read 17555 times:

Quoting c5load (Reply 3):
having to get down on his knees in order to do this.

Not necessarily. I've seen people just reach down and take the photo with the phone pointed up. In fact, I saw this in New Orleans a few years ago...only the girl involved was likely over 21...considering she had two giant drinks in her hands. The guy just flashed me a drunken grin.


User currently offline757luver From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 2 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 15844 times:

Quoting chrisair (Reply 5):
having to get down on his knees in order to do this.

Not necessarily. I've seen people just reach down and take the photo with the phone pointed up

And with the kind of clothes kids are wearing these days, would have just made it easier to do something like that.



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User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5598 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (4 years 2 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 15200 times:

Quoting PHLJJS (Thread starter):
A witness notified a Police Officer

And here we have it again: it goes for everything, if you see something, say something.

Let's hope that, if the charges are true, that he gets the book thrown at him.



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User currently offlineskygirl1990 From New Zealand, joined Jun 2010, 123 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (4 years 2 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 14934 times:

Has he not heard of the internet...? 

*sigh* We pilots are supposedly good at making the right decisions...



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User currently offlineASFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1170 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 14528 times:

Quoting skygirl1990 (Reply 8):
We pilots are supposedly good at making the right decisions...

I always hope the decisions that they make in the cockpit are better than the decisions I see some of them make outside of the cockpit. Good decision making is not necessarily something I would say that pilots are any better at than anyone else.


User currently offlineB707forever From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 459 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 11498 times:

Quoting skygirl1990 (Reply 8):
Has he not heard of the internet...?

*sigh* We pilots are supposedly good at making the right decisions...

Thank you for that. I needed a laugh and you gave it me. Clearly, if this is true, the pilot in question is in need of some treatment.


User currently offline0NEWAIR0 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 939 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 10488 times:

Is it bad that I was relieved to find that this wasn't another drunk pilot story?


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User currently offlinePHLJJS From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8163 times:

It looks like the pilot is going to be formally charged. A warrant was issued for his arrest and he is expected to turn himself in tomorrow.

http://cbs3.com/topstories/US.Airways.Pilot.2.1777731.html


User currently offlinedetroitflyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 2 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7868 times:

while i understand this is a disgusting act, i dont quite understand the LAW he broke?
I always thought that taking a picture of a person/child in public was within the law (a la paparazzi). Im guessing this girl was wearing underwear?
So does someone taking pics of girls at beaches in a bikini constitute obscene pics? Or is taking pics of porn stars/ girlfriends enough to get you charged with this misdemeanor?



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User currently onlineNASBWI From Bahamas, joined Feb 2005, 1311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 2 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 7734 times:

Quoting detroitflyer (Reply 13):
Im guessing this girl was wearing underwear?

Whether she was or wasn't is besides the point; an adult allegedly took a photograph of parts of the minor that were conceiled..ie his actions were inappropriate, and can be construed as child pornography..particularly since the area focused on (again, allegedly) was her private areas.

Quoting detroitflyer (Reply 13):
So does someone taking pics of girls at beaches in a bikini constitute obscene pics? Or is taking pics of porn stars/ girlfriends enough to get you charged with this misdemeanor?

Taking pictures of people lying on a public beach (already exposed, mind you) is a bit different than taking a picture of a clothed girl at such an angle as to expose her conceiled nether regions - which, beforehand, were hidden. At the very least (if the victim is over 18), the offense in this case would be invasion of privacy, or lewd behavior. In this case, the victim is a minor, and that comes with a heavier penalty.



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User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5598 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7602 times:

Quoting detroitflyer (Reply 13):
I always thought that taking a picture of a person/child in public was within the law (a la paparazzi).

Not when taking upskirt pics of a minor.

Quoting detroitflyer (Reply 13):
Im guessing this girl was wearing underwear?

I'm gonna refrain from making a sick joke that could get me banned.

Quoting detroitflyer (Reply 13):
Or is taking pics of porn stars/ girlfriends enough to get you charged with this misdemeanor?

No. The issue here is twofold:

1) He went out of his way to take a picture of someone's sexual organs, without her consent, which were otherwise hidden from view.

2) Most importantly, the girl is a minor. I dunno if you heard about what Perez Hilton did a few weeks ago, but apparently he almost got some child porn charges slapped on him. And that was an "accidental" shot.



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User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4395 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (4 years 2 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7566 times:

One of the article says 15 years, the other 16 years, which would already make a small difference legally.

User currently offlinerottenray From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 275 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 2 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7548 times:

Quoting detroitflyer (Reply 13):
while i understand this is a disgusting act, i dont quite understand the LAW he broke?
I always thought that taking a picture of a person/child in public was within the law (a la paparazzi). Im guessing this girl was wearing underwear?
So does someone taking pics of girls at beaches in a bikini constitute obscene pics? Or is taking pics of porn stars/ girlfriends enough to get you charged with this misdemeanor?

There is the "letter of the law" and there is the "spirit of the law."

The "letter" says we're free to photograph each other in public, under normal and reasonable conditions.

The "spirit" says we shouldn't invade others' privacy or exploit them. The Paparazzi sometimes fall afoul of this concept and get taken to court.


Unless you're filming a diaper commercial, there is no reason whatsoever to train a camera on a child's underwear.

Children are 100% off-limits when photographing them could constitute placing them in a sexual setting.

Title 18, Sections 2256 and 2257 outline this distinctly.

RR


User currently offlinesilentbob From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2081 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (4 years 2 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7521 times:

Quoting Burkhard (Reply 16):
One of the article says 15 years, the other 16 years, which would already make a small difference legally.

Not in Pennsylvania. There was a case where a 17 year old girl sent camera phone pics to her 18 year old boyfriend and he now has to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life.

Quoting detroitflyer (Reply 13):
while i understand this is a disgusting act, i dont quite understand the LAW he broke?

Because Americans in general are really uptight about anything even slightly sexual in nature, just about everything is a crime. I really haven't seen much, if any actual details in any of the reports. It could be a legitimate criminal act or it could be a knee jerk reaction. Only time will tell, though I would expect it to end up in a plea bargain once the media calms down and moves on to the next big scandal.


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 19, posted (4 years 2 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7471 times:

Wait, wait, wait.... was this a East pilot or a West pilot?


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User currently offlinePHLJJS From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 2 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7340 times:

I believe he is an "East" pilot. What differance does it make anyway? No matter if he's "East" or "West," he's still a US Airways pilot.

User currently offlineUALWN From Andorra, joined Jun 2009, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (4 years 2 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7228 times:

Quoting silentbob (Reply 18):
Not in Pennsylvania. There was a case where a 17 year old girl sent camera phone pics to her 18 year old boyfriend and he now has to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life.

Which is incredibly stupid. And it makes it harder to spot genuine sex offenders...



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User currently offlinesancho99504 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 2 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7020 times:

Quoting UALWN (Reply 21):

Isn't America wonderful?



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User currently offlineMax777geek From Italy, joined Mar 2007, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 2 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7015 times:

Quoting ASFlyer (Reply 2):
There are good pilots and bad pilots,

there aren't good pilots and bad pilots.

There are only alive pilots.


User currently offlineFly2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (4 years 2 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 6943 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 4):
I think google image search would have been a better idea than this

And you know this how?   

Quoting skygirl1990 (Reply 8):
*sigh* We pilots are supposedly good at making the right decisions...

Wrong.

Truly superior pilots are those who use their superior judgment to avoid those situations where they might have to use their superior skills.

Quoting sancho99504 (Reply 22):
Isn't America wonderful?

Yay for the land of the prudes!  


25 JBirdAV8r : ...is that not exactly what she said? You use judgment to make decisions, yes? Bemoaning America as the "land of the prudes" for maintaining a sex of
26 UALWN : Actually, for the most part it is! For the most part....
27 JBirdAV8r : I hate to whine, but I think this might be better served in non-av. This guy was acting in his capacity as a pervert, not a pilot.
28 Aesma : A better response than calling the cops would have been a nice slap in the face, imho. He was bemoaning about the fact that a lot of people on the reg
29 Post contains images Fly2HMO : That's the "official" phrase among pilots that I posted. I know this is not the pilot's case, but I have a major issue with the fact that say, somebo
30 type-rated : I take it that the girl wasn't wearing any underwear as the ABC-TV article said the photos were obscene. This guy should really, really be ashamed of
31 Post contains images JBirdAV8r : OK, but her statement was not "wrong." Pilots ARE paid to make good decisions (about flying). We have lots of stupid sayings...like "the extra engine
32 AirframeAS : That is what I figured. No way would it be a West pilot. Lots. Given the labor situation at US..... need I say more?? There's lots of threads on that
33 sancho99504 : The sex offender registry in this country is absurd at best. You have people on this registry now whom are 16 year olds that sent each other nude pho
34 NASBWI : Why not? Are you saying that all East pilots have some kind of motive to look up a teenage girl's skirt? Or am I missing a huge bit of sarcasm?
35 maxpower1954 : That's the most unintentionally hilarious thing I've read on Airliners.net! Russ Farris
36 UALWN : Can someone explain the joke?
37 Post contains images wn700driver : Not at all! I was thinking it had to be OUI related or another asleep at the stick story myself. No difference at all. No state considers 16 year old
38 Post contains images AirframeAS : LOL!!!! No sarcasm at all. My point being.... given the light of the labor situation at US, the East pilots have been the ones causing most of the pr
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