uaeflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1324 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 15479 times:
I was talking to one of EK executives who have responsibility of the airline interior department. He said that from A6-EDK they will introduce a new Business class seats, as the airline is not happy with the current configuration.
Any one from Emirates can confirm this.
I personally didn't like the J seats on the A380. If it was like that , it means the first 10 A380 will have the current business class seats (or old) and from aircraft number 11 onward a new seats will be fitted.
can anyone confirm , how would the new seats look like ?
ash185 From New Zealand, joined Apr 2009, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 15412 times:
Yeah i agree. Ive only been on EKs A332 business class seats which obviously dont compare to the A380 seats but the A380 J seats look quite cramped and i hate the colour scheme as well.
Are there basically the same as Etihad?
I wouldnt be at all surprised if they change the seats again, they have so many different j seats even though they are retrofitting aircrafts. They should really spend more time at all planning their J seats and providing more consistency. to me the only thing that was "revolutionary" in terms of their product was their first class suites on their A345 years ago When they got their A345s their biz seats were cradle style while other airlines already had lie flat seats and , when they got their 77Ws again cradle of different style and not too long after they brought in lie-flat.
jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 9707 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 15029 times:
Quoting kaitak (Reply 3):
I haven't actually experienced them (well, not yet!), but they look great - with lots of privacy. What are the main faults people have with them?
Emirates has 8 sets per row on teh upper deck for J class, airlines with economy on their upper decks have 8 seats per row. The seats can't physically be any wider which is why several A380 operators have 6 per row in J class(AF, LH and QF) on the upper decks. SQ has 4 seats per row.
Thorben From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 14362 times:
I always thought that EK's layout was very clever, every passenger has direct access to the aisle, unlike at LH, but they they can fit in more seats than SQ, were also every pax has direct aisle access. So why change it?
EY has this layout on their A340s, too. I like it. Only drawback is that the seats are rather narrow compared to what others offer.
bombayhog From United States of America, joined May 2001, 557 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 12553 times:
I had the chance to test out the J seats on the A380 when I went for a look round the plane while flying F (J class was more or less empty on that flight.) I really value the way they give aisle access to all passengers--I think that's really important in a good J class. However, the seats do feel small. And actually, at that time I noticed that certain seats in the cabin had more of a feeling of space than others. Can't say for sure if that was an illusion or not. I certainly wouldn't mind flying in the seats, and I was probably a little bit biased having been in the F suite just beforehand (so anything would have felt smaller), but I thought they were definitely narrow and would only suit certain people (i.e. smaller ones.)
ronerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1687 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 11897 times:
There are also rumors that the Business Class bar and lounge may be eliminated from some new aircraft as it is not practical for certain flights such as ICN.
This makes sense, and in fact i was not expecting the higher density medium-hall aircraft to have this feature for instance.
As for the J class seating, i personally found it to be very comfortable and quite private. The cabin itself may look and feel cramped, but they is because there are over 70 J seats! .. I think these seats are fine for long and ultra-long haul flights.
Perhaps these are not total changes per se, but maybe the following A380's that EK will start to recieve are the higher density ones? Does anyone know when these aircaft are supposed to make an appearance?
Considering EK's different configs on their main fleet, i would assume the same will apply to the A380 anyways. Besides, EK will need to start deploying some A380's to the Indian Subcontinent, KUL, CGK, Egypt, etc soon where it would only make sense to have high-density seating.
A Stop Away From One-Stop, Is Non-Stop : Airbus A340-500
AirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1752 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 10591 times:
Quoting bombayhog (Reply 13): but I thought they were definitely narrow and would only suit certain people (i.e. smaller ones.)
I have been on the EK380 J class. They seem narrow because each of them is like a cabin in itself. Had there been no cabin 'walls' it would seem roomier. Trust me, I am not a 'smaller one' and felt comfortable sitting/sleeping on those lie flats. Plus the aisle access is the biggest blessing......... besides, no one gets to see what you are upto on yuor IFE.... (say if you feel like seeing your holiday pictures on the big screen, you dont end up showing it to all around.........)
Quoting ronerone (Reply 15): Business Class bar and lounge may be eliminated from some new aircraft as it is not practical for certain flights such as ICN.
I think you mean on the JED route. I may be missing something but why a bar is not practical on flights to ICN? There are plenty of people who like to hang around a bar (free booze) whatever time of day......
ronerone From Jordan, joined Aug 2004, 1687 posts, RR: 52
Reply 17, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 10269 times:
Quoting AirIndia (Reply 16): I think you mean on the JED route. I may be missing something but why a bar is not practical on flights to ICN? There are plenty of people who like to hang around a bar (free booze) whatever time of day......
JED is a given for obvious reasons.
But some crew say that the lounge isn't used too much on ICN flights as well.
Anyways, some heard the lounge may go, others assure that it isn't, so nothing is official yet.
A Stop Away From One-Stop, Is Non-Stop : Airbus A340-500
HAMAD From United Arab Emirates, joined Apr 2000, 1163 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 10200 times:
i can assure you that the lounge is used on most of the destinations, even on jedda. it is not the fact that alchohol is available or not, it is the fact of wanting to see the lounge. i work down stairs in economy but on the times i have been pulled out to operate on business, the lounge gets really busy. many customers have booked A380 flight just to be able to use the lounge. it is a very nice feature, something to change being at your seat and be able to walk around.
NZerinDXB From United Arab Emirates, joined Feb 2008, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 10152 times:
Let's be honest here folks...It's a great product. When it comes to Jcl seating everyone has an opinion and like anything subjectivity prevails. Unless you're obese, you could never class the EK 380 offering as cramped and it has excellent privacy while also providing good segregation for couples travelling together in the middle seats.
ag92 From India, joined Jul 2006, 1317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 9929 times:
Quoting NZerinDXB (Reply 19): Let's be honest here folks...It's a great product. When it comes to Jcl seating everyone has an opinion and like anything subjectivity prevails. Unless you're obese, you could never class the EK 380 offering as cramped and it has excellent privacy while also providing good segregation for couples travelling together in the middle seats.
The fundamental problem is the width of the seat, and at 18.5 inches, as an economy class traveler as someone has already said I can expect a greater seat width in economy, sure I wont get the recline, I'll get the width, and then we have QF who offers more pitch and more width than what emirates offer, I mean thats pretty amazing if you ask me
Agree, with you...certainly doesn't feel like you're in a Ycl width seat. Again it comes down to personal preference. I know that QF do offer a 180 degree lie flat. Their Skybed is 80'' long which compares to EK 78'' - hardly going to change the purchasing decision of the vast majority.
ag92 - Interested to understand whether you've actually experienced the QF product and can make a direct comparison. I've had a quick check and can't see their seat width publishied on QF.com.au. Certainly the seat doesn't look a whole lot wider - I'm sure any difference is negligable, but again this like so many other aspects of inflight product/service is a subjective matter.
From an overall product perspective EK offer the huge advantage of a PTV which is a full 5'' larger.
EKGOLD From Australia, joined May 2005, 207 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 8836 times:
having flown the EK A380 product many times both ULH and LH i am curious as to the claims posted so far. it is a great layout when travelling with your spouse/partner (the two middle seats in the set up) and if you are travelling alone, especially ULH, the window seats offer superb privacy to get on with sleeping... the feeling of a lack of space could be down to the amount of privacy built into the product. I for one are not looking for any changes in the current set up...
Slinky09 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2009, 948 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 10 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 8782 times:
I've found the EK J seat to be very comfortable, no feeling at all of being cramped and there's lots of space for stuff.
The cabin layout could be changed for the better however, placing the kitchen right at the back is a problem in terms of service times and that it is behind the bar / lounge and loos. Speaking to a steward on board I was told that EK are looking at this.
: I would hardly call a seat that is narrower than an economy seat a "great product" From Australia EK is hardly cheap, when there are other airlines o
: This seems very strange to me. Are half of the seats really 9" longer than the other half? A lot of people will probably complain about that. That ma
: My stats were based from an earlier post, not my own experience, but if I had an option for EK J, after looking at those stats, I'd give it a pass
: So am I. I know it's all a matter of personal preference but as someone who's tried it, I certainly think the EK A380 J configuration (which is basic
: Having flown in J on both the EK 777-200LR and the EK A380, I must say that I strongly prefer the 777-200LR. The seat seems wider and roomier, and eve
: Who said it's narrower? Not sure what Economy Class offering you're comparing to?! At the end of the day fare levels are driven by supply and demand.