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IB Goes Daily To BOS And Double Daily To MEx  
User currently offlineTalaier From Spain, joined May 2008, 490 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8468 times:

Seems like yields in BOS are better than expected. MEX on the other hand is no surprise.


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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33042 posts, RR: 71
Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8476 times:

This isn't new. Iberia always goes daily to Boston for a weeks in the summer. Its temporary.


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User currently offlinenetjetsintl From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6959 times:

Iberia used to operate twice into MEX, then it went to like 12 weekly flights if I'm not mistaken, so its back to twice daily.

Can't believe Iberia decided to go twice daily with Mexicana and Aeromexico already on the route


User currently offlineTUNisia From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1844 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6430 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 1):
This isn't new. Iberia always goes daily to Boston for a weeks in the summer. Its temporary.

Why such hate for IB @ BOS? All we hear is how horrible the loads are and how AA will surely take the route over with a 763 or 757.



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User currently offlineju068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2692 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 6368 times:
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What plane do they use on the route to BOS?

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33042 posts, RR: 71
Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 6069 times:

Quoting TUNisia (Reply 3):
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 1):
This isn't new. Iberia always goes daily to Boston for a weeks in the summer. Its temporary.

Why such hate for IB @ BOS? All we hear is how horrible the loads are and how AA will surely take the route over with a 763 or 757.

What hate? Just stating a fact.

And the loads are horrible during the winter months, which is why an AA 757 would be perfect - plus it could operate daily instead of 3x weekly.



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User currently onlinerealsim From Spain, joined Apr 2010, 658 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 6050 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 4):
What plane do they use on the route to BOS?

An Airbus A340-300


User currently offlineolli From Mexico, joined Mar 2001, 341 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5459 times:

Quoting netjetsintl (Reply 2):
Iberia used to operate twice into MEX, then it went to like 12 weekly flights if I'm not mistaken, so its back to twice daily.

They have been flying only 7 a week, but most of the days with A346.

Quoting netjetsintl (Reply 2):
Can't believe Iberia decided to go twice daily with Mexicana and Aeromexico already on the route

Well, i believe there is enough demand for them to backup their decision.

Best Regards,


User currently offlineDvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1745 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5333 times:
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Quoting TUNisia (Reply 3):
Why such hate for IB @ BOS? All we hear is how horrible the loads are and how AA will surely take the route over with a 763 or 757.

I don't think anyone has hate for IB at BOS, I enjoy seeing their jets. It just seems like a very seasonal route to most and that economically it would probably make more sense to go to a 763 (BA or AA) during the winter and use the A340 during the summer months.



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User currently offlineAM744 From Mexico, joined Jun 2001, 1780 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5222 times:

Quoting olli (Reply 7):
Well, i believe there is enough demand for them to backup their decision.

Indeed. If anything can be said about direct long haul links from MEX is that there are few and expensive. Europe flights are full most of the time and deep South American routes are expensive because of lack of competition I reckon.


User currently offline737DAB320 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4900 times:

Does this mean they will run a sale? I am planning a trip to Spain from Boston so it would be great if they ran some sort of special!


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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7592 posts, RR: 42
Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4540 times:

Quoting netjetsintl (Reply 2):
Can't believe Iberia decided to go twice daily with Mexicana and Aeromexico already on the route

Well, summer is a very busy time of the year in the MAD-MEX route. And if the Mexican economy continues to grow, we will continue to see an increase in the demand for flights. AM, due to its shortage of widebodies, is only doing 7 weekly 77E flights per week, whereas other years it has done 11x weekly flights during the summer with a combination of 77Es and 767ERs.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineRafflesKing From Singapore, joined Mar 2007, 314 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4042 times:

Sorry to get off topic, but does anybody know why 2 A340s were at BOS today? One was at the gate at terminal E and the other seemed to be near one of the hangers.

Oddly, when I flew into Boston on Monday night (arrival at 12:30am), an A340 was also parked in a nearby spot overnight.


User currently offlineLatinPlane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2735 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3944 times:

I am wondering when IB will decide to launch service to both Monterrey and Guadalajara. A MAD-MTY-GDL 3x weekly theoretically should work during the high-season, while going down to 2x during low season. Now that IB is opening up secondary destinations in Latin America one can only assume that this is the way to go and only a matter of time for IB if it plans to grow its Mexican operation.

User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11442 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3916 times:
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At least the new business product on IB is very good. Hope they can do even better this summer, but as posted by others, it's not such a big year-round route and need less seats during winter season. IB is trying to increase their network all around!


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User currently offlineRobertS975 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 947 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3738 times:
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Quoting RafflesKing (Reply 12):
Sorry to get off topic, but does anybody know why 2 A340s were at BOS today? One was at the gate at terminal E and the other seemed to be near one of the hangers.

Oddly, when I flew into Boston on Monday night (arrival at 12:30am), an A340 was also parked in a nearby spot overnight.

The departure on June 30th aborted takeoff, some kind of engine fire. Fire and rescue equipment were mobilized, but there never was a passenger evacuation. There is a thread about this already. I am trying to learn any updated info.

But the IB A340 has been parked on the north ramp at Logan ever since. Here is the original thread:


Iberia Blows Engine - Aftermath Video - 6/30/10 (by Reggaebird Jun 30 2010 in Civil Aviation)


User currently onlinemigair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3543 times:

Both of them good additions....

I don´t know if BOS will be year round but after a secon summer I´m sure they are starting to be more popular in the area and maybe i could be year round.....they are creating the market....

also starting soon COR in Argentina....I think this fall..... GUA and MTY is a matter of time......


User currently offlineIBERIA747 From Spain, joined Aug 2003, 1831 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3461 times:

Quoting migair54 (Reply 16):
GUA

GUA is served by Iberia without interruptions since 1971.



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User currently offlineReggaebird From Jamaica, joined Nov 1999, 1176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3444 times:

Quoting realsim (Reply 6):
Quoting ju068 (Reply 4):
What plane do they use on the route to BOS?

An Airbus A340-300

Actually, we do ge the A340-600 reasonably often.


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7592 posts, RR: 42
Reply 19, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3370 times:

Quoting IBERIA747 (Reply 17):
GUA is served by Iberia without interruptions since 1971.

I think migair54 meant GDL - Guadalajara, Mexico. AM tried MTY-MAD but it no longer flies the route. It is not clear to me if the route was cancelled because it was not profitable, or because AM needed the widebodies for deployment on other routes and therefore decided to funnel all pax via MEX.

I am sure GDL and/or MTY can sustain service to Europe a few times weekly.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineIBERIA747 From Spain, joined Aug 2003, 1831 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3269 times:

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 19):
I think migair54 meant GDL - Guadalajara, Mexico

Oh I guess you could be right. Didn't think about it.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 19):
AM tried MTY-MAD but it no longer flies the route.

When did they stop?

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 19):
I am sure GDL and/or MTY can sustain service to Europe a few times weekly.

Air Pullmantur tried GDL a few years ago and failed. I hope the next airline to try that route has better luck.



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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7592 posts, RR: 42
Reply 21, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3121 times:

Quoting IBERIA747 (Reply 20):
When did they stop?

Not exactly sure. But definitely on or before the H1N1 outbreak. The problem is that the flight was only 2 or 3x weekly, so it basically catered to flexible leisure travelers. I guess many people from the Monterrey area continued to use U.S. carriers such as DL via its ATL hub to get to Europe.

Quoting IBERIA747 (Reply 20):
Air Pullmantur tried GDL a few years ago and failed. I hope the next airline to try that route has better luck.

They did GDL in tandem with PVR right? It was a 1 or 2x weekly flight with 747s if I am not mistaken.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineolli From Mexico, joined Mar 2001, 341 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3067 times:

Quoting IBERIA747 (Reply 20):
When did they stop?



I took the last flight (MAD-MTY) and if I recall correctly, it was Jan 16 2009.

Best Regards


User currently onlinemigair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 3 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2873 times:

Quoting migair54 (Reply 16):
also starting soon COR in Argentina....I think this fall..... GUA and MTY is a matter of time......

My mistake is was Guadalajara....

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 19):
I think migair54 meant GDL - Guadalajara, Mexico. AM tried MTY-MAD but it no longer flies the route. It is not clear to me if the route was cancelled because it was not profitable, or because AM needed the widebodies for deployment on other routes and therefore decided to funnel all pax via MEX.

The main advantage for IB is that they have a big network in Europe beyong MAD but AM don´t have so many feeding flights in MTY or GDL, so I consider that IB can sustain the flight well.... same for Air pullmantur they just have O&D traffic....

Quoting Reggaebird (Reply 18):
Actually, we do ge the A340-600 reasonably often.

That´s really good news, so not only the Economy cabin is becoming full then.... good news for IB and Boston....

What about IAD??


User currently offlineLatinPlane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2735 posts, RR: 14
Reply 24, posted (4 years 3 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2699 times:

Quoting migair54 (Reply 23):
The main advantage for IB is that they have a big network in Europe beyong MAD but AM don´t have so many feeding flights in MTY or GDL, so I consider that IB can sustain the flight well.... same for Air pullmantur they just have O&D traffic....



Exactly! There is a steady demand for busines traffic to both destinations as both are very industrial. European investment in both areas is significant. Cargo is also an important factor to consider. However, I don't know if IB is focused on the transportation of cargo from Latin America to Europe? In terms of cargo, Guadalajara is already well served by the likes of Air France Cargo, Lufthansa Cargo, and CargoLux, which pick up shipments from GDL to Europe as well as other parts of the world like the Middle East and Asia using their very efficient cargo hubs located CDG, FRA, and LUX.



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