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CO To Join Six Continents Club  
User currently offlinetpaewr From United States of America, joined May 2001, 450 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 10367 times:

I was suprised this wasn't noted in the press release, but nor were the flt numbers (CO134/135). Perhap we are already 'muting' the CO brand to a degree? But regardless with the addtion of CAI CO joins UA and DL as U.S. arilines going to all six (granted just 4X a week with CNS)

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User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 2993 posts, RR: 27
Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 10328 times:

Technically... YES. But highly insignificant as CNS service isn't comparable to DL's and UA's Australia operations.

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User currently offlineaznmadsci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3635 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 10310 times:

This was mentioned, and debated, when CO announced IAH-LOS after having announced IAH-AKL. The debate was if AKL is part of the Australian continent.


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User currently offlineBlueFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3696 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 10241 times:
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Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 1):
Technically... YES.

Technically... Irrespective of which model one follows (7, 6, 5 or 4 continents), Antartica is its own continent, so neither CO, nor DL or UA fly to "all six" continents. Either CO flies to six out of seven, or five out of six, certainly not "all six."

Either way, this is just a meaningless differentiation. Nowhere but on a.net do people really care how many of the world's continents an airline serves.

(not intended as a dig to the op, but trying, indirectly, to make the point that if we worry about "technicalities" it'll never end and marketing just will die a slow but certain death)

[Edited 2010-07-06 15:40:23]


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User currently offlinetpaewr From United States of America, joined May 2001, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 10207 times:

Correspondingly many people are not impressed by CO's TALT 757s, but this doesn't negate the fact that they fly to OSL,ARN,TXL,EDI,etc,etc.

Likewise FJ serves NAN with a 744, that doesn't mean CO doesn't fly there because they use a 738.

But be 'the end';CO flts,with CO crew, on Boeing 7x7-x24 aircraft, with a plane load of pax on 005 tkt will be on every inhabited continent. I suspect this would have been loudly trumpeted if the CO brand wasn't being retired


User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3105 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 9923 times:

Quoting tpaewr (Thread starter):
CO joins UA and DL as U.S. arilines going to all six
Quoting BlueFlyer (Reply 3):
Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 1):
Technically... YES.

Technically... Irrespective of which model one follows (7, 6, 5 or 4 continents), Antartica is its own continent, so neither CO, nor DL or UA fly to "all six" continents. Either CO flies to six out of seven, or five out of six, certainly not "all six."

Beat me to it!

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User currently offlineSchweigend From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 573 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 9776 times:

Back in the day, PA was the all-continents-except-Antarctica US-based airline. Maybe they even flew to McMurdo too on a special basis---anyone here know?

These days we have UA and DL trying to cover the world from North America--now CO too. With HA now talking about flying their A330s to India, China, and Europe, they would need only add an African destination (not likely). But I did read here that HA could use HNL as a sort of mid-Pac DXB.

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 5):
a plane load of pax on 005 tkt will be on every inhabited continent. I suspect this would have been loudly trumpeted if the CO brand wasn't being retired

Off-topic....but maybe a good new one--After a UA/CO merger will 005 ticket stock become 016? Will new Boeing planes be -x22 instead of -x24?


User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3105 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 9615 times:

Ummm, where'd THAT come from? That's not my post.


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User currently offlinetharanga From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1847 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 9488 times:

I'll give them credit if they start the routes before the merger.

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 7):
That's not my post.

Misquotes are depressingly common here.


User currently offlineSchweigend From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 573 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 9446 times:

I was quoting tpaewr from Reply 4. Don't know how it ended up with your name!

User currently offlineaviateur From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1350 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 9174 times:

"Six Continent Club."


Hey, no fair, you stole that from me.

That's a description I've been using in my columns and articles for years.

But, what's that they say about flattery and imitation?



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24061 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 9049 times:

Quoting aviateur (Reply 10):
"Six Continent Club."


Hey, no fair, you stole that from me.

That's a description I've been using in my columns and articles for years.

But, what's that they say about flattery and imitation?

And you stole it from InterContinental Hotels. Six Continents Club was the world's first travel industry loyalty/recognition problem when InterContinental Hotels (then owned by Pan Am) introduced it about 50 years ago. They changed the name a few years ago but I think the old name may still used to some extent and it's still listed as one their registered trademarks.


User currently offlineBlueFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3696 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 8992 times:
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Of course, between 1966 and 2004, the Six Continents Club was also InterContinental Hotels' loyalty program, so named because they have hotels on, well, six continents. It was renamed in 2004, but flattery and all...


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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1972 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 8751 times:

How many people live at McMurdo? Enough for a flight to IAH?     


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User currently offlinehomsar From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 8239 times:

Six continents, or seven. Whatever.

It wasn't until Aerobiz Supersonic that I learned the world had more than 22 cities.



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User currently offlineselwoode From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7052 times:

Quoting aznmadsci (Reply 2):

technically HALF of NZ is on the Australian plate - ring of fire goes right through middle of South Island AKA Southern ALps


User currently offlineaerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 6897 posts, RR: 13
Reply 16, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6827 times:

Quoting Schweigend (Reply 6):
Off-topic....but maybe a good new one--After a UA/CO merger will 005 ticket stock become 016? Will new Boeing planes be -x22 instead of -x24?

The specification stays with the original specification on the order, so the 739 ac for example will stay as -924s. Any new orders after the merger will likely be one specification, but aircraft currently ordered but undelivered will stay with their original designation I think.


User currently offlineaussieindc From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5672 times:

Quoting selwoode (Reply 15):
technically HALF of NZ is on the Australian plate - ring of fire goes right through middle of South Island AKA Southern ALps

and half of the New Zealand population live in Australia as well.  


User currently onlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 2667 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5654 times:

Quoting aznmadsci (Reply 2):
The debate was if AKL is part of the Australian continent.

That is why I don't think of Australia as a continent and prefer the term Oceania which is broader and includes Australia. To say Australia is a continent is correct, but where does that leave the rest of the islands? Is New Zealand part of Australia? Papua New Guinea?   



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User currently offlineAirport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5551 times:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 18):
Is New Zealand part of Australia? Papua New Guinea?

Ha! As I understand it, New Zealand actually is the remnant of the now mostly-submerged continent Zealandia (Tasmantis), which broke away from Antarctica some 85 million years ago and slowly sank into the Pacific. As it stands, it is, like Cuba, Madagascar, and Iceland, a microcontinent, and not technically a part of any of the five/six/seven formal continents we all know.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong...

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User currently offlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 7870 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5405 times:

Quoting BlueFlyer (Reply 3):
Either way, this is just a meaningless differentiation. Nowhere but on a.net do people really care how many of the world's continents an airline serves.

Well, EK does make a point of telling its customers and everyone who's willing to listen.
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User currently offlinezkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4773 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5188 times:

Australasia is considered a continent with Australia being the main part of it. As others have mentioned, half of New Zealand is on this continent, the other half is on the Pacific Plate.
Back to the topic of this thread, that would mean that CO will be flying to the Australasia Continent when it adds AKL, thus joining the Six Continents club... (North America, South America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Australasia). The other continent being Antarctica which no regular passenger airline services. QF however does fly over Antarctica for sightseeing flights and flies pretty close on its routes to EZE and JNB.



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User currently offlineFlyLonghaul From Australia, joined Feb 2010, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3954 times:

Quoting zkpilot (Reply 21):
QF however does fly over Antarctica for sightseeing flights and flies pretty close on its routes to EZE and JNB.

Off topic i know, but, QF serves every inhabited continent, and flies over Antarctica, am I right in thinking that QF is the only airline to currently achieve this?



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24061 posts, RR: 23
Reply 23, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3862 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 11):
ix Continents Club was the world's first travel industry loyalty/recognition problem when InterContinental Hotels (then owned by Pan Am) introduced it about 50 years ago.

Too late to edit. "Problem" in my earlier reply should read "program".


User currently offlineGoblin211 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 1209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3777 times:

I think that the bottom line is:
If CO serves all continents except for Antarctica then technically they fly to six continents and the name is legit.



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25 DavidByrne : No, PA has never served Antarctica - nor has any scheduled passenger operator. McMurdo is by no means anywhere near set up for commercial passenger t
26 Airport : Gondwana was the supercontinent that consisted of present-day Africa, India, Australia, Antarctica and South America (and Zealandia/Tasmantis), that
27 Post contains images Viscount724 : That's not quite correct. In fact PA did operate one charter flight from Christchurch, New Zealand to the McMurdo base in Antarctica on October 15, 1
28 zkpilot : I think DL, UA, BA do this.. possibly EK also in terms of being part of the continent club. QF is the only one to fly near Antarctica however.
29 aviateur : Damn. What does it take to be original these days? I've been using "Six Continent Club" in my articles since 2003 and I had no idea about InterContin
30 CALPSAFltSkeds : Gee, all this talk about Six Continents and InterContinetal. Maybe the merged name with UA should have been Continental or maybe TransContinental. Wit
31 Schweigend : Thanks indeed, Viscount, for the postcard pic and info--I had a feeling PA had been there! Of course, talking of McMurdo makes me think of the John C
32 Schweigend : Sir, I am now laughing my arse off.
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