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IND-CAK Back In FL Route Map  
User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4547 posts, RR: 18
Posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2985 times:

Could this be another error? IND-CAK is back in the route map yet again after showing up a couple weeks ago or so. I tried to find the original thread but no luck. Another error or is this route indeed coming?

In my opinion the route would make no sense. It makes about as much sense as the IND-BKG route that is starting in September with Branson Air.


Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2973 times:

Confirming it is indeed showing up on the route map.

Wonder if this is a mistake by FL or perhaps being started!

Alex



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User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4547 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2967 times:

Not implying that it should be FL but wouldn't a route like IND-BNA be better than a route like IND-BKG or IND-CAK?


Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
User currently offlineNorthstarBoy From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1825 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2874 times:
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FWIW, it's operated by Skywest on FL's behalf, they also operate ind-mke on behalf of FL.


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User currently offlinelv From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 2002 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2868 times:

Could this be the start of turning IND into a true focus city? I certainly hope so.

Quoting Indy (Reply 2):
Not implying that it should be FL but wouldn't a route like IND-BNA be better than a route like IND-BKG or IND-CAK?

I think as WN continues to build a presence in the southeast you will eventually see this route as a way to link WN pax via 1 stop from IND to places like CHS, GSP, ECP, etc.


User currently offlineMUWarriors From United States of America, joined May 2005, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2741 times:

There are two things interesting about this route as posted on FL's website. First that it shows up as mainline, which would be complete overkill for that route I would think. Secondly, it doesn't show any connection possibilities in either IND or CAK, it just shows a line connecting the two, I find that odd since a route like that would have to be built on connections. When is FL's Q2 conference call? Maybe that will shed some light on things.

User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4547 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2698 times:

When LGA and BWI were first loaded in the route map no connection possibilities were showing up. Those may not be displayed until FL has an opportunity to calculate connection opportunities. As of now that route still shows up in the FL map.


Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4547 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2692 times:

Additional note: I've heard IND is working to renegotiate leases with the airlines. Perhaps they've been able to work out more favorable terms with FL.


Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
User currently offlineJBAirwaysFan From United States of America, joined May 2009, 962 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2594 times:

IND-CAK is not on the route map as of 12:48 PM ET July 7, 2010.


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User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4547 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2453 times:

I wonder what in the world is going on with this? Anyone from FL that can chime in on this?


Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3804 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2420 times:

Probably just a glitch in the site somehow. You can find bugs all over their site if you're hunting for them. That one was just appallingly noticeable.

User currently offlineIndy From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 4547 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2390 times:

This one has come up twice now in a couple of weeks. Is it a glitch or someone in the web team getting ahead of themselves. I know IND-MSY appeared in the route map before it was press released. I have also seen routes bookable before they were announced. I would have to lean towards an error but twice now makes me wonder.


Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
User currently offlineChase From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2290 times:

I'm not with FL, but I was a web developer at TZ.

I did the logic that made it so that if you chose (for instance) BOS in the dropdown for the origin, it would dynamically remove LGA from the dropdown that you would use to choose your destination (because both were spokes from MDW, and nobody in their right mind would buy BOS-MDW-LGA). The way this worked was that there was a database which contained all the routes we would sell...a text file was generated from this nightly...I wrote a program which would parse the text file and generate Javascript...and the website referenced that Javascript. On extremely rare occasions, the text file did have flukes in it (presumably because the database did) and we might see something funky in our dropdowns, until the next night when the whole process ran again.

Our route maps were made by another department in a different building...I always presumed it was the same people that laid out the print ads. Part of that opinion just comes from the fact that they had Macs, whereas the rest of us had PCs. Our route map was just a static image - it wasn't the kind where you can click on a city and the lines appear. Had it been the animated type (and if TZ were still around today, it may have been), I'm sure it would have been driven by the same database. This is not to say that's precisely how FL does it, but I'd guess their process is fairly similar.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22863 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2235 times:

Quoting lv (Reply 4):
I think as WN continues to build a presence in the southeast you will eventually see this route as a way to link WN pax via 1 stop from IND to places like CHS, GSP, ECP, etc.

I would use IND-BNA, but given that it's a REALLY easy drive, there probably aren't enough people like me. We'll see IND-STL before we see IND-BNA.



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User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3804 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2191 times:

Quoting Indy (Reply 11):
This one has come up twice now in a couple of weeks. Is it a glitch or someone in the web team getting ahead of themselves.

Glitch, it looks like the type of thing that happens when there are 2 systems programmed to work in conjunction yet disagree on something.

Quoting Indy (Reply 11):
I would have to lean towards an error but twice now makes me wonder.

I've seen crw-mbj/nas/cun for sale on the reservations page. It's a similar type of error im assuming.


User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3733 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2146 times:

Quoting Indy (Reply 7):
Additional note: I've heard IND is working to renegotiate leases with the airlines. Perhaps they've been able to work out more favorable terms with FL.

Is that the reason why IND hasn't seen much new service as of lately - the lease rates were/are prohibitively high for expansion? Since Concourse A is underutilized and the IAA wants to see more use from A, I would assume that's a factor in the talks. A good solution would be to move UA to A with CO (which will need to be done anyway), which would free up gates for FL, WN, and others to grow.



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User currently offlineChase From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 1943 times:

Back to the original topic, I just noticed that if you click on ATL on the routemap, it's still showing ATL-IND-LAS. That route is no longer flown. The website does not show flights between IND and LAS if you click on either of those two cities...just if you click on ATL.

User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3804 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1866 times:

Quoting Chase (Reply 16):
Back to the original topic, I just noticed that if you click on ATL on the routemap, it's still showing ATL-IND-LAS. That route is no longer flown. The website does not show flights between IND and LAS if you click on either of those two cities...just if you click on ATL.

Yeah it's also showing CLT-MDW and has for quite some time.. which all ties back into my earlier point that:

Quoting Kcrwflyer (Reply 10):
You can find bugs all over their site if you're hunting for them.


User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3733 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1809 times:

Quoting Chase (Reply 16):
it's still showing ATL-IND-LAS. That route is no longer flown.

Is IND-LAS nonstop a permanent discontinuation, or is the route seasonal?



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