UAL777UK From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3355 posts, RR: 1 Posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2090 times:
I was just wondering what with other legacies and airlines adding them why UA has not added winglets to its 763 fleet in particular the International configured aircraft. Surely they would benefit from it or does it come down to the initial capital expenditure on the work that would be undertaken?
laca773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3749 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1934 times:
Quoting UAL777UK (Thread starter): I was just wondering what with other legacies and airlines adding them why UA has not added winglets to its 763 fleet in particular the International configured aircraft. Surely they would benefit from it or does it come down to the initial capital expenditure on the work that would be undertaken?
Thanks for starting this thread, UAL777UK. I've been asking the same thing for quite a while now and no one has offered an answer as to why. We all know UA would definitely benefit by having blended winglets installed on the 763ERs they have, if not all of them, then have a subfleet of 76Ws that operate UA's longest 767 flights.
SeeTheWorld From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1275 posts, RR: 4 Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1884 times:
I was at the Eco-Aviation Conference in Washington a few weeks ago, and this is something that UA was asked about. My understanding is that the plane downtime was a big issue, but the downtime has been reduced over the past couple of year. The price of fuel is high enough to justify adding the winglets. Finally, there is the extra several feet of wingspan on each side that does create some logistical gate issues at a few of the hub airports. My impression, though, was that UA was finally at a point where they could justify installing them. We'll have to see.
71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2736 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1758 times:
Quoting RJ111 (Reply 2): How long does it take for the cost of the winglets to be paid off in fuel savings?
Not just fuel savings but also the ability to lift more payload; AA claims an additional 12,000 lbs.
Quote: The airline said the 11-foot-tall winglets can reduce fuel consumption per airplane by up to 500,000 gallons, reduce carbon dioxide emissions by up to 277,000 metric tons, extend the airplane's range by up to 360 nautical miles and increase payload by up to 12,000 pounds.
They expect to save some 30 million gallons of fuel or about $60 million annually and then factoring in the increased revenue from additional cargo, won't be long paying off the approx $150 million investment (58 aircraft x $2.5 mil ea).
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The airline said the 11-foot-tall winglets can reduce fuel consumption per airplane by up to 500,000 gallons, reduce carbon dioxide emissions by up to 277,000 metric tons, extend the airplane's range by up to 360 nautical miles and increase payload by up to 12,000 pounds.
They expect to save some 30 million gallons of fuel or about $60 million annually and then factoring in the increased revenue from additional cargo, won't be long paying off the approx $150 million investment (58 aircraft x $2.5 mil ea).
Well when you take all that into account with AA I would have thought it would be a no brainer for UA to start the process ASAP.
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