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If You Were To Start A Realistic Airline.....  
User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3028 times:

Where would you start an airline if it was to be realistic startup. What would your destinations be after the first year? By my terms of realistic, I mean starting with about $85 million dollars, and a small fleet of planes. It would also mean that it has to be in the current airport rules. "I would fly a 757 LGA-LHR" would not work.

I would have 6 Dornier 328s flyin from PHL at the gates that are going to be built at the end of 'E' to attract the low-fare carriers flying

DCA 6x daily(pending slot approval.)
BOS 5x daily
CLT 4x daily
ROC 4x daily
PHF 2x daily
BTV 2x daily(seasonal)

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User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2903 times:

I wanted to add that I am doing this because I am tired of the "I would fly from XXX to 50 destinations with 15 different fleet types."

User currently offlineILOVEA340 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2900 times:

SFO-JFK/LAX/LGW/ZRH/FRA/MUC/HKG/NRT/SIN/IAD/ORD/CDG/AUK/AMS/MXP/BSL
and a few more major international destinations.
A330-200's/A330-300's
A340-500's/A340-600's
A380-100's


User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2883 times:

I would like to buy Spirit Airlines and run it properly. There could be a lot of value in this company, if it didn't have such a third-rate management team.

I would give the airline a new image (colorscheme, logo etc), continue to expand with older used MD80s, continue to bulk up FLL with new Caribean flying, continue to expand DTW as a low-fare competitor to NW (much like F9 and FL), and charge higher fares for strong demand destinations... (LGA).

rgds
russ


User currently offlineUS Air/TWA Fan From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2870 times:

I would buy Vanguard and run it properly.
But Vanguard would be different...

First, I'd change the name. I like the name "Heartland". (I hope Heartland in Dayton works out, but if it doesn't someone should use the name).

Second, I would add newer aircraft to the fleet...like the MD-80s.

Third, I would continue to build up the Kansas City hub and add a lot more non-stop flights and build frequencies.

Fourth, I would add a first class section...like what AirTran did-and made a success.


Within a year the Heartland fleet would consist of about 10 MD-80s and 12 B737-200 and fly to about 18-20 cities.

All of the current Vanguard cities (14) would still be served and I would add the following: Boston; Seattle; Washington National (if I could get slots, if not, then Washington Dulles), Columbus or Dayton, Ohio; Orlando, and Salt Lake city.

Long term, the 737-200 would all be replaced by MD-80s or newer aircraft (such as the A318/A319).
Other cities to be served are: San Diego, PDX, PHX, Vancouver, IAH, STL, MIA, IND, Toronto, PHL, RDU, BNA, CLE, and many more.


User currently offlineTxAgKuwait From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1803 posts, RR: 42
Reply 5, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2841 times:

This is what I posted before, and yes...I think I could do it for $85Mil,

Carrier name: Pioneer Airlines "The West is Near, When You Fly Pioneer"

Fleet: 10 Boeing 717s (leased)

Headquarters: Dallas Love Field, TX

Cities Served: Dallas (TX) Love Field, Houston (TX) Hobby, Baton Rouge LA, McAllen TX, Wichita KS, Olathe KS, West Memphis AR

Service: Single class layout, 5 abreast in the B717 with about a 32" pitch. Leather seats throughout (they cost more originally but they hold up real well...easy to keep clean). Some backwards facing seats in "lounge areas" in about 5 spots in the cabin.

Route structure: hourly svc between DAL & HOU (from 630 to 2230 Southbound, and from 0645 to 2245 Northbound).....5 trips a day DAL-AWM, DAL-ICT, and DAL-Olathe. 5 trips a day HOU-BTR and HOU-MFE. Friday night and Sunday night nonstops between DAL & MFE.

Fare structure. No advance purchase fares. Everything is a walkup fare. On the roughly 1-hour nonstops, fare would be $80 OW/$150 RT before 7:00 pm on weekdays. After 7:00 pm and all day Saturday & Sunday this rate drops to $45 OW/$ 80 RT. The roughly 2-hour 1-stop flights price out at $130 OW/$250 RT peak and $85 OW/$150 RT off peak.

On board service: No meals. Free cocktails, beer and wine on peak flights. Off peak flights...cocktails are 2 bucks and beer/wine is a buck. (we appreciate correct change). The "house wine" is Llano blush from Texas' own Llano Estacado winery.....the beer is Lone Star or Coors Light....and the only diet soda is Diet Doctor Pepper.

Flight attendant uniforms: Sorry, no hot pants. This is the 21st century. Winter/Fall: Wrangler jeans, western shirts, and cowboy boots. Summer/Spring: The Wranglers can be cut off to make shorts....a "Pioneer Airlines" tank top style t-shirt and tennis shoes.



User currently offlineILOVEA340 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2828 times:

I posted this on another one.

ZRH-BSL/GVA (A318) 5x daily
ZRH-CDG/LGW/TXL/MUC/FRA/MXP (A319) 2x daily
ZRH-JFK/BOS 3x weekly or ZRH-LGW-JFK/BOS 6x weekly
The ZRH n/s would be A330 or you could do the LGW stop with an A319.

3 A318's 80Y
5 A319's 100Y
1 A330-200 190Y
the A32S's are bought and the A330 is leased. It is sort of an elite economy idea.



User currently offlineAerLingus From China, joined Mar 2000, 2371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2820 times:

Stratosphere Airways
Base: Phoenix Sky Harbor (PHX)
Fleet: 6 x MD-80 series jetliner.

Destinations:
PDX
SMF
SLC
FLL

Service:
Standard 2-3 layout in an all coach arrangment. Navy blue leather seats with red winged headrests.
Snacks will be served on all flights. Include:

Cookies, baked on board.
Coffee.
Hot pocket sandwiches.
Ceasar salad with french roll.
Coca-Cola, Canada Dry ginger ale, V-8 juice, orange juice, apple juice, Colombian coffee.

Uniforms:
Blue bowling shirt with airline logo stitched in right chest, name in left chest. Stripes on shoulders indicate seniority. Two stripes otherwise. Three stripes indicate seniority. White stripes are for standard flight attendants, red are for multilingual flight attendants. Khaki slacks.
Winter: Solid red turtleneck and navy blue v-neck sweater. Stripes on sweater cuffs. Houndstooth slacks.

Marketing campaign:
"More than you expect, including the whole can of soda."

Our inaugural route will be Ft. Lauderdale, followed by Portland and Sacramento. Then we'll move into Delta territory by debuting the Salt Lake City route.

We would LIKE a cooperative service partnership with Midwest Express to Milwaukee and their network. I believe that it would be of mutual benifit.



Get your patchouli stink outta my store!
User currently offlineILOVEA340 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 2100 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2806 times:

how about a cheap airline flying A380's JFK-LHR-CDG-LHR-CDG-JFK and JFK-CDG-JFK
all flights 2X Daily with 4 A380-100's
then again you could start with 4 737-800's.


User currently offlineDLSIZE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2799 times:

I would start an airline that would be named Sideway Airlines:

As a full-service carrier, Sideway Airlines and its commuter partner operate 272 daily non-stop flights to and from their hub at Raleigh-Durham International Airport. Sideway serves 36 destinations in 19 states. The Company recently took delivery of its tenth Boeing 737-700, creating a fleet of 38 aircraft, including four Fokker F100s, ten Boeing 737-700s and 24 Canadair Regional Jets. Sideway flies one of the youngest all-jet fleets in the world, with an average age of less than three years.


User currently offlineDLSIZE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 2797 times:

Okay...enough of the imitation stuff....how about for real.

I would base the airline at TTN using 717s and FRJs.

Destinations:

MHT FRJ 2X
PVD FRJ 2x
BDL FRJ 4X
ROC FRJ 4X
MDW 717 5X
IAD FRJ 4X
RDU 717 3X
ATL 717 5X
FLL 717 5X
TPA 717 3X
MCO 717 4X
DFW 717 2X
STL 717 2X

Fr Sa Su service to MYR using FRJ with 5x over the weekend.

Looks like I could get by with 6 FRJs and 11 717s


User currently offlineShamrock104 From Ireland, joined Sep 2000, 523 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2801 times:

Airline Name: Austral Europe
Base: Strasbourg, France
Hubs: Strasbourg
Busy routes: Newark (more than 2 daily)
Hamburg (more than 5 daily)
Copenhagen (more than 5 daily)
Frankfurt (more than 15 daily)
Boston (more than 2 daily)
Paris (more than 7 daily)

Alliances: Skyteam, route specific agreements

Fleet:
B777-200ER - 6
B767-300ER - 5
B737-500 - 4
B757-200 - 4 +
B757-200LR - 2 +
A320-200 - 8
A321-200 - 6
A300-600R - 3
Fokker 70 - 5 *
Saab 340 - 3 *
Emb.Brazillia - 2 #

+:operated by ae team subsiduary
*:operated by ae regionlink
#:operated by ae firstregional

subsiduary companies:

elipse (regional business airline)
3x737-300
2x737-800
ae holidays (leisure airline)
2x737-400

Destinations:

Soeul (2x weekly, 777)
Newark (15 x weekly, 777,767)
New York J.F.K (DL Codeshare) (daily - DL 767)
Dubai (5x weekly 777,767)
Kuwait (6x weekly 757LR)
Vancouver (6x weekly 777)
Houston (3xweekly direct 777,1x weekly v.Montreal 777)
Montreal (daily 777, continuation to St.Louis or Houston)
Chicago (6x weekly 767)
Lima (weekly 777 service, to cater for local industry)
St.Louis (6x weekly 777 via Montreal, 1x direct 777)
Pittsburgh (6xweekly 767 via BOS,1x weekly777 via BOS)
Boston (17x week, 767/777 mixture)
Philadelphia (5x week, 777, 3 via EWR, others direct)
Charlotte (weekly 767 via EWR, seasonal)
Atlanta (DL Codeshare - Daily 777)
Cincinnati (DL Codeshare - Daily 767)
Dahran (3x week A300)
Beirut (Daily A300)
Tel Aviv (9xweek 757)
Amman (Daily A300)
Moscow (Daily A300)


European/Near East
Hamburg,Berlin,Hannover,Stutgart,Munich (C/S LH), Frankfurt (C/S LH), Paris CDG, Paris Orly, LHR, Stansted, MAN, DUB,LYN, Grenoble, Nice, Bordeaux, Oslo, CPH, STO, HEL (C/S AY), Moscow, IST, Verona, MXP, LIN, Palermo, Roma, ATH (C/S Olympic), Thesaloniki, Prague, BUD, BUH (C/S RO), Sofia, Bratislava, VIE, Belgrade, Zaragoza, Bilbao, Madrid, Casablanca (Joint opp - RAM), Tunis, Cairo, Luxor, Barcelona, Lisbon, Marseille, Ljubliana, Zagreb, Vilnius, Riga, Gothenburg, Amsterdam, Brussels, Antwerp, Maastrict, Dresden, Zurich, Geneva, Innsbruck, Malmo

some destinations served by regional subsiduaries.

Classes:

Economy (most legroom on t/a flights - 777,767, A300, 757), ptv's

Business Class 'Galaxy' tm - business/first class with extra large personal t.v's/ seat pitch, modern space age interior. on 777's/767's (extra Galaxy capacity on Houston/Evening Departure 18:05 Newark flight).

euro_forum (tm) - on all A300's/757's, extra wide business class seats (even to Moscow,Athens, Copenhagen/Hamburg, Dahran, Kuwait)

europlus economy - on all european flights.

elipse business - on all elipse operated flights, leaves the middle seat free on european flights, provides a free limo for passengers to go to/from any airport served by them in Europe - surely a european first?


Colour Scheme - All white aircraft with light grey underbelly, dark navy tail with large stylised ae logo in white. very stylish.

If you want more info on this virutal airline/it's activities, a brochure showing our paint scheme,perhaps a timetable, send me an e-mail!




User currently offlineGodbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2752 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2778 times:

I would try to work for a large airline such as LH, BA, AF and so on. Starting with one or two planes with maybe 50 seats flying to destinations that offer enough pax. And if that works out I would try to grow out of that position which would be very hard in the market of today. But since my name isn't Sir Richard Branson I have to do it like that. Smile/happy/getting dizzy Maybe my airline would make it into the real market with the big ones in about 100 years of business... But if I would make it so far I would want to have a fleet of 737s/A320s for short-haul and a small plane for long-haul, maybe a 767-200 or so.

User currently offlineERJ135 From Australia, joined Nov 2000, 680 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2772 times:

I'd start a modest operation out of Sydney and serve Melbourne, Brisbane, Canberra and Adelaide with a fleet of ERJ regional jets with the object of fast turn around times and high frequency with less seats. An Erj can deplane in far less time than a 737 or anything larger and thereby making turn around faster.
If sucessful the Erjs would be replaced on trunk routes with something like A319's or 717's but in 4 abreast seating like Midwest express offering standard fares but far more service than the majors. The Erj's would be used to expand the network to other destinations until more of the larger aircraft become available.
After a year Qantas would buy me out and the airline would disappear.



I remember when the DC-3 was new!
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29792 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2767 times:

Just set me up with a hanger and a couple Cessna 206's and/or a couple of 207's


OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 15, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2775 times:

Let me think

Naturally my airline will be based at BRS (Bristol International) and i would have priority over other airlines at one space on the apron outside the terminal building, the rest of my aircraft will be parked outside the old terminal building with the BA and Maersk short haul stuff.

So here is the specs:

Dan-air (rejuvinated)
Base: Bristol Lulsgate
Hubs:Nah
Alliances:Maybe later

Fleet:
6 Fokker 50's
5 Dornier 328 Jet's
1 Boeing 767-300ER
2 Airbus A321-100
Destinations
London Heathrow(LHR)3xDaily
London Gatwick(LGW)3xDaily
Manchester(MAN)2xDaily
Birmingham(BHX)2xDaily
Amsterdam(AMS)4xDaily - Codeshare with KLM Cityhopper
Paris(CDG)2xDaily
Glasgow Prestwick(PIK)3xDaily
Aberdeen Dyce(ABZ)2xDaily
Edinburgh(EDI)2xDaily
Newcastle(NCL)1xDaily
Miami(MIA)3xWeekly
New York(JFK)2xWeekly
Toronto(YYZ)2xWeekly
Faro(FAO)4xWeekly
Madrid Barajas(MAD)4xWeekly
Athens(ATH)3xWeekly
Palma de Mallorca (- Son San Juan)(PMI)3xWeekly

EGGD  Smile



User currently offlineR.I.P TWA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2770 times:

85 million? Ok. Lease a couple MD80s, and start flying out of Indianapolis. Only vacation and elderly people regions like TPA, PHX, MSY. Charge low fares (no food, no movies, southwest style) so that the mid-westerner can afford to visit their aging parents in that home in Sarasota, or take that wild vacation to New Orleans. Add MKE if the previous is succesful and start connecting other mid-western cities through Indianapolis to those vacation/elderly destinations. No intl. destinations if I want to make money. Just can't compete with those subsidized foreign carriers.

User currently offlineAerLingus From China, joined Mar 2000, 2371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2746 times:

As far as gate assignments go, I would take an area on the commuter ramp and have all of the passengers deplane airside. That way, they can pick up their luggage after they exit the airstairs, and they can take a covered, portable walkway designed by the airline to the door. No hassle, no wait. Just get your luggage and go.  Big thumbs up


Get your patchouli stink outta my store!
User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4780 posts, RR: 23
Reply 18, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2756 times:

My idea for a startup would be similar to what RootsAir WAS aiming for in a business airline, but it would be with a smaller aircraft and much more realistic - a fleet of ten A319 in a one-class 112 seat layout. The airline would fly out of YHM (Hamilton, ON). Costs would be much lower than AC.
Flights out of YHM to LAX, SFO, JFK, Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver, Montreal, Ottawa, Halifax and St. Johns with a daily continuing flight to STN (London Stansted) daily (yes the A319 can do this!). Also a feeder service using 328JET would be used, from places such as Rochester, Syracuse, London, Windsor and Kingston.

Eventually if expanded, it would acquire more A319 for domestic/transborder service and offer nonstop flights to Europe with a 767-200.

I made this idea up for my grade 12 Entreprenurial Studies class...that was about 5 years ago  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineTwaneedsnohelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2729 times:

I guess I would also like to get a small fleet of A380s for the summer and fill them with like 700 seats and do:

JFK-LON, CDG, AMS, MAD, TLV, FCO, LAX

MIA-LON, CDG, AMS, MAD, TLV, FCO, LAX

than over the winters, lease the planes to other carriers but fly north south routes from JFK to MIA, FLL, CUN, etc....

everything very cheap with just the aim of getting you there.

we would call the airline Smile  Smile


User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2942 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2723 times:

Airline name: AustralisWings

Fleet: 4 RJ 80
3 Canadair RJ200

Base: Melbourne-Moorabbin Airport ( MelbourneSouth )

Network: Melb-Mor. - Adelaide
- Sydney
- Canberra
- Hobart
- Albury-Brisbane

These are the start up destination, aimed at tapping into the large southern melbourne region, without having to deal with Melbourne-tullamarine.

Colour scheme: Gold/Blue/white
Blue bottom with gold strip at top, white body AustralisWings in large type, Australis in blue wings in gold colouring. Tail is blue ith company logo, the hawk in gold colouing.

But with the industry in australia how it is i dont think this will occur even with $85 mil.




User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24923 posts, RR: 56
Reply 21, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2701 times:

Base: NCL
Name: NE Airways
Fleet: 2 CRJ-200LRs
3 RJ85
2 B737-700
1 B767-300ER
Routes:
NCL-ZRH CRJ 3 Daily codeshare with Swissair
NCL-BFS CRJ 4 Daily
NCL-FRA RJ85 3 Daily codeshare with Lufthansa
NCL-CDG RJ85 3 Daily
NCL-BCN 737 2 Daily
NCL-SVG 737 1 Daily
NCL-OSL 737 1 Daily
NCL-JFK 763 1 Daily codeshare with United Airlines
Plans to buy 2 more 737s and 3 CRJ-200LRs with another 763 on lease.
Routes:
NCL-MAD 737 Daily x 1
NCL-LIN 737 Daily x 1
NCL-VIE CRJ Daily x 2 codeshare with Lauda Air
NCL-MUC CRJ Daily x 3 codeshare with Lufthansa
NCL-ORD 763 Daily x 1 codeshare with United Airlines.
Last CRJ used as standby a/c.



When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlineKwbl From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 444 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2696 times:

I would start with several CRJ-200 or 700 series and fly on the west coast of the US. SFO, LAX would be the hubs with spokes to Salem, Redmond, Pasco, Bakersfield, Stockton and Long beach, Reno, Las Vegas, Fresno etc

User currently offlineDrdrewO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2689 times:

My airline would have like 2 717's and 4 EMB 145's and be based in SNA.
SNA-LAS 2x daily
SNA-San Diego 2x daily
SNA-LAX 2x daily
SNA-Tuscon once every other day
SNA-San Franciso 2x daily
SNA-Oakland 2x daily
Orange Air or Orange County Air



User currently offlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 2002 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2681 times:

RIP TWA:
WHat you described, wasn't that ATA before it moved its hub to MDW?


25 Penguinflies : just my newest opinion (i got more, but one will do). Base : DAL Aircraft: 2 CRJ-200/ERJ-145 out fitted with either 46 or 47 seats (depending which co
26 BH346 : -Kansas Midwestern Airlines Base-Wichita, Kansas. Wichita has had very high airfares and is trying to get a low fare airline in the city. Fleet-Dornie
27 Post contains images ILOVEA340 : SFO-OAK 20x daily SFO-SJC 20X daily OAK-SJC 20x daily all are return. all on Pilatus P-12 (or perhaps an A316 )
28 AAmericanguy : Name: TransMinneapolis Airlines Domociles: Minneapolis/St. Paul Fleet: Boeing 737-200Adv,Boeing 737-300 Destinations: Charlotte,NC Chicago,IL (Midway)
29 Hadpa : Name of the airline: Aerolineas del Sur Main hubs: Santiago (SCL) and Concepcion(CCP),Chile. Fleet: A319(10),A320(10),A321(8),A330(5) The inaugural fl
30 Airbus Lover : I realized Malaysia Airlines is playing a monopoly in its domestic service. I would love to launch a new low-fare carrier in Malaysia based in Kuala L
31 SSTjumbo : Name: Cirrusplex Airlines Fleet: RJ115 (20), 727-200 (5), DC-10-30 (5), 727-200s and DC-10-30s planes will later be replaced with A320s, 777-200s, and
32 R.I.P TWA : LV- Might have been. I don't know anything about the history of ATA. Just seemed to me that Midwest to FL flights have always been profitable, and IND
33 SA365C1 : Cant be bothered thinking about it, even if I won money I would just buy a villa in the carribean and enjoy it instead of throwing it away on airlines
34 Defunctairline : PIONEER IS LEGEND AIRLINES 2, LEGEND COULDN'T MAKE A YEAR IN DLF !. You would never will with AA
35 ILOVEA340 : some of you guys are way out of perportion. You do not start an airline with 40 new airbus's (some of which are widebodies). that many billions of dol
36 Srbmod : The Airline: Brightstar Airways Motto: Fly Smarter, Fly Brightstar Base: ATL Aircraft: A340 A330 Description of Airline: America's answer to Virgin At
37 TxAgKuwait : Pioneer is not Legend. Legend had a flawed business plan from day one...1st class at full coach fare. My business model was, simply put, to out-Southw
38 DCA-ROCguy : Try this one on for size: "Liberty Airlines." Low-fare carrier based at BWI, using 737-700's. Business plan: draw from huge O&D base and serve markets
39 DCA-ROCguy : Pioneer Airlines as described seems to me an excellent proposal. I confess to feeling some deja vu....free wine during peak-hour flights? Thomas Petzi
40 Kartik97 : Well my idea isn't that original. I would essentially copy what Jet Blue is doing but instead of their decision to have a hub at Long Beach, I would h
41 Post contains images AeroGlobeAir7 : TxAgKuwait, Wouldn't you be serving Kansas City instead of Olathe? Olathe is part of Kansas City, plus OJC doesn't have the runway length, or space fo
42 Post contains images USAirways737 : Name: Northern Pacific Base: Los Angeles, California (LAX) Fleet: (after 1 year) six (6) B777-200LRs Destinations: -Tokyo Narita (NRT) 1xDaily -Sydney
43 Gsoflyer : Destinations: Main Hub - GSO (Expanded North Concourse) Flights to: Nasheville, Saint Louis, Denver, Roanoke, Richmond, Savannah, Charleston, Columbu
44 Ben2 : ...I wouldn't be posting on airwhiners.net.
45 Pablo : With $85 million most of these airlines could even get off the ground. Buying A380's??, u probaly couldnt even lease them with that money. Even so fly
46 TxAgKuwait : If I am not mistaken....the Century City Airport in the Olathe area can accomodate a 717. I believe I've seen a 727 come out of there. Second, yes, I
47 Post contains images Skychuck : CRJ's based in PIA. Have about 4-5 aircraft with flights coming into to PIA from MLI, SPI, CMI and RFD then on to LGA, DCA, ATL and DFW. Return, repea
48 MONARCH : I would start off with the B737-300s, flying within Europe like Go-fly. Then eventually I would start expanding the fleet to A320s and A319s.
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