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DL 695 Diverted 4 Times Within Last 2 Weeks  
User currently offlinedptpa From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 16 posts, RR: 2
Posted (4 years 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 13684 times:

Hello all, this is my first post so please forgive any mistakes. I was at work on Tuesday at TPA and noticed an outbound DL 695 to GYE that had diverted from ATL. I didn't make much of it assuming the diversion could have been for one of many different reasons. Yesterday DL 695 once again diverted to TPA. I did a little research on flightaware and found that the flight has diverted 4 times within the last 2 weeks. Twice to TPA as I mentioned and twice to MCO on 6/26 and 7/02. Anyone have any information or ideas as to why?

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User currently offlineOOSLC From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 13342 times:

All diverted for fuel, scheduled fuel stops made before they boarded in ATL.

User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9503 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (4 years 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11748 times:

Does the return flight divert often? At 2480 miles, it is one of the longest DL 737-800 routes. What routes are longer? I am a bit surprised it is diverting for fuel since it is the same length as JFK-LAX and 737s routinely make that trip against winds. I would not think there are many winds ATL-GYE and I can't imagine a need for a lot of extra fuel in GYE since it is not that congested. Do GYE storms require a faraway alternate?

I am particularly curious since I have relatives flying that flight next week. I myself chose American from MIA on a 767.



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User currently offlineOOSLC From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 11450 times:

I wondered why too, at first I was thinking winds, but maybe there was an alternate and required more fuel but didn't want to bump an insane amount of people.
None on the way back diverted.


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9503 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (4 years 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 10508 times:

Quoting OOSLC (Reply 3):
I wondered why too, at first I was thinking winds, but maybe there was an alternate and required more fuel but didn't want to bump an insane amount of people.
None on the way back diverted.

Interesting that they don't divert on the way back. I guess a morning arrival into ATL means good weather and little traffic.



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User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6712 posts, RR: 32
Reply 5, posted (4 years 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 9560 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 2):
I am a bit surprised it is diverting for fuel since it is the same length as JFK-LAX and 737s routinely make that trip against winds. I would not think there are many winds ATL-GYE and I can't imagine a need for a lot of extra fuel in GYE since it is not that congested. Do GYE storms require a faraway alternate?

I believe it may have something to do with the nearest alternate for GYE being UIO, and the fact that Ecuador's volcanoes (relatively near to UIO) have been active lately. They may have to send the flight out with BOG or CLO as an alternate instead of UIO.


User currently onlinesimairlinenet From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 911 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (4 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 8525 times:

The 737-700 is going to take over in a few months, presumably to reduce this problem.

User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17348 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 8451 times:

Quoting simairlinenet (Reply 6):
The 737-700 is going to take over in a few months, presumably to reduce this problem.

Is it in the schedule? DL doesn't fly GYE for most of SEP-DEC and then it comes back as a 738.



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8752 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6744 times:
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Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 7):
Is it in the schedule? DL doesn't fly GYE for most of SEP-DEC and then it comes back as a 738.

Your right; after DL suspends the route in September, it will come back on 12/18/2010 and operate twice weekly (B738).


User currently offlinebinmonster From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 5668 times:

Quoting dptpa (Thread starter):
Twice to TPA as I mentioned and twice to MCO on 6/26 and 7/02. Anyone have any information or ideas as to why?

695 made a fuel stop for excess baggage backlog.......on 06JUL the flight had 295 bags on-board.


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9503 posts, RR: 52
Reply 10, posted (4 years 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5195 times:

That is an awful lot of bags for a 738. I guess I understand why AA operates a 767.


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User currently offlinexjramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2460 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4651 times:

Quoting binmonster (Reply 9):

695 made a fuel stop for excess baggage backlog.......on 06JUL the flight had 295 bags on-board.

Call me crazy, but isn't that need to know and not "share it on an aviation website"?

xjr



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8752 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4517 times:
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Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 10):
That is an awful lot of bags for a 738. I guess I understand why AA operates a 767.

Yep, AA actually cares about their Ecuadorian customers. AA does very well on this route which operates 10x weekly.


Quoting xjramper (Reply 11):
Call me crazy, but isn't that need to know and not "share it on an aviation website"?

Why? It's commonly known that Ecuadorians travel heavy. AA permits two free checked bags to Ecuador. LAN Ecuador sometimes offers three free pieces of checked luggage to both GYE and UIO. LAN Ecuador also utilizes the B763 on their routes to North America. AA and LAN Ecuador can actually fill wide-body jets with passengers on their Ecuadorian flights; as opposed to DL.


User currently offlinexjramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2460 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4282 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 12):
Why? It's commonly known that Ecuadorians travel heavy. AA permits two free checked bags to Ecuador. LAN Ecuador sometimes offers three free pieces of checked luggage to both GYE and UIO. LAN Ecuador also utilizes the B763 on their routes to North America. AA and LAN Ecuador can actually fill wide-body jets with passengers on their Ecuadorian flights; as opposed to DL.

I was referring to the actual bin total number that was posted. Just like passenger counts can't be revealed, bin weights and numbers shouldn't be either. Thats someone with insider knowledge.

South american and African travelers are notorious for "traveling heavy". lol. I know :P

xjr



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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8752 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4164 times:
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Quoting xjramper (Reply 13):
South american and African travelers are notorious for "traveling heavy". lol. I know :P

As well as other latinamericans; plus West Indians and other Caribbean nationals.

Quoting xjramper (Reply 13):
Just like passenger counts can't be revealed, bin weights and numbers shouldn't be either. Thats someone with insider knowledge.

Does that apply to everyone, (non DL staff of course), who works at Aeropuerto Internacional José Joaquín de Olmedo? Also, maybe you should read some articles printed in various latinamerican and Caribbean newspapers which directly mention DAL.


User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17348 posts, RR: 46
Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2158 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 12):
LAN Ecuador also utilizes the B763 on their routes to North America. AA and LAN Ecuador can actually fill wide-body jets with passengers on their Ecuadorian flights; as opposed to DL.

That's because Lan and AA fly to places with Ecuadorians, whereas ATL can only serve a tiny local market and connect them to places where there are already nonstops.



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User currently offlineborism From Estonia, joined Oct 2006, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1979 times:

Quoting SCL767 (Reply 14):
Does that apply to everyone, (non DL staff of course), who works at Aeropuerto Internacional José Joaquín de Olmedo?

I'd find it extremely weird if airport workers were allowed to reveal their clients' (airlines) passenger and baggage counts.

Then again, number of bags doesn't say much. And anyone can wait and count near the counters.


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