rikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1763 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 10717 times:
Because of the construction of the doors, there is no way it could be opened, unless under 10,000 feet with no pressurization (IIRC). My only concern would be with the emergency exit overwing doors...is there a remote possibility those upward swinging doors could be successfully opened in flight?
Hope this woman gets the psychiatric help she obviously needs. More importantly, I hope the rest of the passengers were not badly traumatized by this unnecessary event.
gr8circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3155 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 10715 times:
Of the two links, one mentions that the passenger tried to open a "door" while the other mentions a "door hatch".....where do these terms get picked up from...? It should be just "door" right? The word 'hatch' makes it sound (to the uninformed) that there is a smaller opening somewhere in the cabin, which the passenger may have tried to open....
Although most a.netters know by now that it is almost impossible for a passenger to actually open a door in mid-flight, I'm sure it must be a very scary experience....especially, because you don't know what this sort of passenger may resort to, once he/she realises that they can't open the door...
railker From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 10414 times:
Quoting Larshjort (Reply 5): There is propably a pressure difference lock, but I would like to know.
Or maybe there's a lock that's rigged through the Air-Ground sensor on the landing gear, can only pop them open if there's weight on the MLG ... I'd like to know too ^.^
EDIT:: Just had a look on the B737.org.uk site, made a note there ...
"On the NG, it is not uncommon to get an overwing caption illuminate for a fraction of a second as you start the take-off run. This is due to the overwing exit automatic locking function being slightly slow."
tdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12710 posts, RR: 80
Reply 11, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7956 times:
Quoting ThirtyEcho (Reply 10): What do these folks think they are going to do if the door actually opened, do a little shopping on the way home?
People that are panicking (not euphemistic panic, but the real psychological condition) don't think at all, in the sense you're talking about. If you've never seen it happen to somebody before, it's hard to explain, but once you've seen it for real it wouldn't surprise you at all. Someone who's panicking can't be reasoned with, by themselves or anyone else, until the threat causing the panic goes away.
osetka From Canada, joined Mar 2006, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6678 times:
It has happened to me, in a more non aggressive way, on a AC Jazz CRJ flight from YYC to YZF. A women in her 40's kept getting up and walked towards the Door. On the CRJ, they at times have a cur ton over the door, so this passenger would keep pulling the cur ton open and seemed as she wanted to open the door. The Flight attendant kept sending her back to her seat, but again she kept getting up and went straight to the door. She would look at the door as if she wanted to open it. She did this about 3-4 times during the flight and other passengers got involved. The flight attendant then relocated her seat which made her sit at a window further back, and had another passenger seat at the isle seat beside her to prevent her from getting up. When we talked to the flight attendant, she told us how she kept asking "are we here?" and how she wanted to get off. Now luckily she never had the chance to try and open the door or was aggressive in anyway, but it got me worried and glad to see the two passengers in front row assist the FA.
That's very true. Even smaller things, you can experience it yourself. You know you should stop, drop and roll if you're on fire. But when you're actually on fire, if you're not on top of yourself and start panicking, then you forget t do that. In any emergency situation, most people KNOW what to do. But once it's on you and you start to panic, all that goes out the window, you revert to primate instincts.
There is that factor, too. We all know she wouldn't have been able to haul the door open. But what about all those passengers who don't know that. In reality, if they knew as well, everyone could just let her have a go and sip at some warm tea while she tries. But then what would happen if she realized she couldn't get it open? Maybe a complete melt down, maybe nothing ... and then there's the effect on the other passengers, their fears.
In any case, kudos for the crew being on their toes and helping out this woman.