airbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4401 posts, RR: 49
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 7800 times:
Vision Air,... Google and you might find results about suspected CIA flights and Vision Air. Sights of their planes have been also in e.g. SNN, accompanied by arrivals of USAF aircrafts etc, as well in BTS
"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
JeffSFO From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 848 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 7218 times:
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 3): Quoting airbuseric (Reply 2):
Vision Air,... Google and you might find results about suspected CIA flights and Vision Air.
I believe those planes are based at IAD, and they are used for various government work.
Interesting. I joked in this other active thread that N766VA (Vision Airlines 767-200) must like Russians because it landed at SFO just before Russian President Dmitry Medvedev arrived on 6/22 and took off soon after. N766VA is the same plane that took the Russian spies to VIE and is taking the Western spies from there.
Its presence at SFO is starting to make more sense. Perhaps it was carrying security, press, or diplomats for Medvedev's visit.
BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 16559 posts, RR: 27
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 7183 times:
Perhaps this would be a good time for Vision to change branding or at least repaint the aircraft in question, since it has been all over the news this morning. I can't imagine the CIA would be too happy with that.
Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
Highflier92660 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 748 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week ago) and read 6699 times:
An eight hour transatlantic flight out of LGA on a Boeing 762 is really unique. One has to realize LaGuardia's runways are only 7,000 ft. with a twin-tandem weight bearing capacity of 360,000 lbs. due to the piers. It would be interesting to know what their gross take-off weight was.
BlueFlyer From Tuvalu, joined Jan 2006, 4780 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week ago) and read 6595 times:
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 10): I can't imagine the CIA would be too happy with that.
Don't worry for the CIA, they have far less photogenic aircraft where one is challenged to read even the registration unless one happens to be close by.
If anything, I would guess they picked Vision Air on purpose because it is already a well-known government missions aircraft and they knew press would be all over this, as opposed to picking another aircraft that is far more discrete but would have its cover blown (no pun intended) on such a high-profile mission.
When we unleash the dogs of war we must go where they take us
ScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 7352 posts, RR: 30
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week ago) and read 6588 times:
Quoting Highflier92660 (Reply 12): An eight hour transatlantic flight out of LGA on a Boeing 762 is really unique. One has to realize LaGuardia's runways are only 7,000 ft. with a twin-tandem weight bearing capacity of 360,000 lbs. due to the piers. It would be interesting to know what their gross take-off weight was.
It's not that surprising, though. The MTOW of the 767-200ER is only 395,000 lbs., the aircraft was certainly far from full, and NYC-VIE is well under the max range of the 762ER.
aussieindc From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6412 times:
What's interesting is that it's returning into IAD after a stop in RAF Brize Norton. I would have thought that they'd bring them back into Andrews AFB or something given that they are deemed to be spy's.
WROORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 1053 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5647 times:
Quoting KITH (Thread starter): A 767-200 for ten people! Anyone think it is just a coincidence? What is "vision air?"
This caught my attention as well. Not to get into politics, since this is an aviation forum, but this seems to be a huge waste of money the round trip for 767 must be about 200K .
They could have used a military exec jet.
On the other hand I did not know that LGA runway was long enough to handle 767, when I go there on MD80 or A320 it always seems that we are going to overrun the runway...
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 28725 posts, RR: 24
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4565 times:
Quoting 7673mech (Reply 23): L1011's used to fly LGA to Florida all the time - so I am not sure why a 67-200 is so shocking.
DC-10s were also common at LGA in the 1970s and 80s. Both the DC-10-10 and L-1011-1 were designed to be able to use LGA. UA, AA and National used the DC-10 at LGA and Eastern, TWA and DL used the L-1011. Eastern and Pan Am also used the A300. 767s were also once common at LGA. I think my first flight on a 767 was on a UA 762 LGA-ORD in 1982, soon after they went into service. In July 1983 schedules there were 11 daily 762s on UA and AA combined LGA-ORD, also one AA DC-10.