Yeah, but I couldn't resist. Stranger things have happened.
Quoting scouseflyer (Reply 2): what it could be (possibly) is AA taking some more as part of their rumoured cancellation of the lastfew T7s that they've on order?
Possibly, JAL also cancelled some 777s recently, but since that was due to financial woes I wouldn't expect a replacement order.
AA could definitely use the planes to replace MD-80s, but they are really wanting the Y1. I guess that it isn't too unreasonable for Boeing to have given them at least a rough timetable on that and AA wants to take more 737s in the mean time.
Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
CFBFrame From United States of America, joined May 2009, 531 posts, RR: 3 Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 16813 times:
Was there not an Asian carrier (outside of JAL), someone like MH (but not them because they already placed their NB order) but that type of airline that had an RFQ out? I hate it when I can't remember an airline's name. Help me out a.net.
CFBFrame From United States of America, joined May 2009, 531 posts, RR: 3 Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 16665 times:
One other thing, 214 orders (and net 177, really does not matter because if you can offset the loss, unlike last year, you know the loss will come back) is a big thing. I know Airbus will make big announcements at the Airshow, so things will end up equaling out. The reason I say it's a big thing is, when compared to YOY reduction in deliveries Boeing announced we are now seeing that there actually was a downturn in the market last year. It has taken a year, and it has been masked by the claims of production ramps, but there has been a slow down in deliveries. Some of it may be the seat issue, but I'm not buying that to be the only reason. The number of new NB orders also supports the justification of increasing rates. Might also be the fire sale of 737NGs to drain the swamp before the big announcement next year.
EA772LR From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2836 posts, RR: 10 Reply 23, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 14110 times:
Quoting CFBFrame (Reply 22): The G. WN getting them means, to me, that they're beginning to define next gen a/c config.
Good point. Perhaps if this pans out, and 18 are for WN, then I think it wouldn't be a stretch to assume Boeing may do Y1 beginning at 150+ seats at standard configurations (165+ for WN). I hope Y1/737RS looks something like this:
We often judge others by their actions, but ourselves by our intentions.
LAXDESI From United States of America, joined May 2005, 5085 posts, RR: 48 Reply 24, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 13746 times:
Quoting EA772LR (Reply 23): Good point. Perhaps if this pans out, and 18 are for WN, then I think it wouldn't be a stretch to assume Boeing may do Y1 beginning at 150+ seats at standard configurations (165+ for WN). I hope Y1/737RS looks something like this:
Not sure I fully understand your comments. Are you saying that the smallest Y1 size will be 165? I would think WN would still want an aircraft that that is around 150 seats in standard configuration.
25 EA772LR: I'll try to explain...brace yourself! There have been a lot of rumors floating around about WN showing interest in the 738. Some on here have specula
26 wn700driver: Hmmm... I would think that the 739 would be a better pick, if they were going that route. Higher seat count and range really isn't an issue for about
27 catdaddy63: There is a lot in this thread that makes me think WN will order the 738. They went through this years ago moving from the 732 to the 733 as far as cap
28 413X3: WN flies to a lot of airports that would struggle to take a fully loaded and fully fueled 739, especially in high heat
29 wn700driver: Very true, I'm sure. But they also fly to more than a few that don't. And as I said, or implied anyway, range is really a non-issue. Who says, for ex
30 ikramerica: 149 seats will be the smallest. That's 73G size/A319. 736 has not been popular at all, A318 only for VIP (and can continue to be built into the futur
31 Wncrew: Yes, I'm not sure why everyone acts as if we're cramming people in, we have generous pitch for a domestic Y product compared to many of the other car
32 XT6Wagon: which is why I think they will only have 149. They can use the space to normalize the seat pitch at an even 34" with more room in the entryway than t
33 swa4life: a 149 seat plan would not require an extra crew member at all per FAA rules..150+ requires the 4 FA. 149 is the magic number..
34 TSS: My "seat-of-the-pants" feeling is that that's a given... but I could be wrong.
35 zeke: So I take it the the thread title is misleading ? they did not receive a singular "order" but multiple "orders" (3?) with 40+ frames in total.
36 93Sierra: If the 18 are for WN why chose 18? I was led to believe that 25 would be the better option to start with and more WN style. When will we find out?
37 BMI727: I don't think that Southwest would ever go with 149 in a 73H. I doubt they would want to pay that much for an entryway. I'd say that mid 160s to mid
38 XT6Wagon: You forget that the extra row or two of seats they might fit over 149 cost them an extra FA, extra turn time, less cargo revenue, higher trip costs,
39 Wncrew: Not speaking specifically to you, XT6Wagon, but this issue keeps coming up time and time again and I just can't see this really being as big of an is
40 BMI727: But is that entry way and maybe a little extra legroom really worth 7000 lbs? I kind of doubt it. It would be dumb to have a 73H with between 150 and
41 tdscanuck: Southwest achieved the success they have, in large part, due to running a hyper-efficient operation, which includes minimizing any and all unnecessar
42 kevin: What about Russian "Rostehnologii", AFAIK they signed a MOU for about 50 737 NGs. May be this is the firm order...
43 XT6Wagon: I agree that they would be able to deal with the issues. I just doubt that they would want to deal with the issues today, and for an extra couple row
44 time2lyme: My money is on the 25 going to Caribbean Airlines/Air Jamaica. We've been awaiting a review by the TnT govt of CAL's business before an order was allo
45 wwtraveler99: You need to think about this like WN would. 168 seats is 31 more than they currently have. So would 31 justify the extra F/A? I am thinking yes I wou
46 AA1818: If this is true it would indeed be very exciting. I still remain skeptical on the number of firm aircraft that BW/JM will actually order, and the fac