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Twin Otter To Appear In Farnborough...  
User currently offlinejoecanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5435 posts, RR: 30
Posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 10201 times:

The Viking version of the twin otter should be certified again this summer. I wonder if Viking is planning on producing other de Havilland models. I think the Turbo Otter would find a good market.

With all the focus on the big dogs, the little guys are often forgotten. It's good to see them get some press.


What the...?
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User currently offlineskymiler From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10166 times:

Driving it there from the West side of Canada will probably not be a lot of fun!  


I love to fly, and it shows!
User currently offlinejoecanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5435 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10154 times:

For some reason , I'm having issues editing my post. Anyway, here, hopefully is the article...




What the...?
User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5435 posts, RR: 30
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10073 times:

What the heck is going on...? I can't post the link to the article. Anyway, it's in the Business section of the Wall Street Journal at www.wsj.com.

Search for Viking Air.



What the...?
User currently offlinerailker From Canada, joined Aug 2006, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 9928 times:

It'll be good to see when they get the first few out and they start flying around. A really beautiful aircraft -- always was, and is now just that much better with the LCD cockpit and some changes.

As for other DHC products, they're working on a project for the Buffalo, do an 'update'. But for new production, they're hands are full with the Twotter -400, a big enough project on the table as is.

Buffalo: http://www.vikingair.com/content.aspx?id=1882


User currently offlineczbbflier From Canada, joined Jul 2006, 973 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 9774 times:

Quoting skymiler (Reply 1):
Driving it there from the West side of Canada will probably not be a lot of fun!

On the contrary. If you are a flying nut, where you actually have to FLY the plane, rather than let a roomful of computers do all the work, it is a dream come true. It would be the same as driving a sports car, as opposed to a huge luxury sedan across the country... and back again. It would be thrilling and exhilarating.

Challenging, perhaps, but not every pilot wants to fly a B747 at 35,000 feet monitoring gauges and logging fuel consumption statistics. Especially those with a bush flying background- many of whom happen to be Canadian.

I'll wager there are several folks at Viking Air in Victoria and Calgary chomping at the bit to fly this amazing bird to the UK. And hundreds more on the outside who wish they could even be considered.

Good to see that Viking will be at Farnborough. I was actually wondering that this morning as I idly sipped my morning coffee. Amazing how my query was answered so soon....

Thanks!


User currently onlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3420 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 9599 times:

Quoting joecanuck (Thread starter):
I think the Turbo Otter would find a good market.

It might have a tough go as 2-3 more 19-seaters are coming to market soon. I'll start making the popcorn.



"I want to know the voice of God the rest is just details" --A. Einstein
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9780 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9558 times:

Good news indeed, too bad I can't go to the Farnborough Air Show this year  

A388


User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6607 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9453 times:

Love the twin otter, great plane that can do anything.

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 6):
It might have a tough go as 2-3 more 19-seaters are coming to market soon. I'll start making the popcorn.

The turbo otter is not a 19-seater.



New Technology is the name we give to stuff that doesn't work yet. Douglas Adams
User currently offlineAccess-Air From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1939 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9413 times:

Quoting joecanuck (Thread starter):
With all the focus on the big dogs, the little guys are often forgotten.

Thats the understatement of the century so far!!!!!!!!

We need lots of new or re-introduced turboprops to fill that gaps that some of the older well used planes see the end of their lives...

Also need a replacement, a try 9 passenger replacement for the Piper Navajo Chieftain and the Cessna 402!!!!!


Regional Jet technology is wasted on many short haul hops that could be covered by plane like a Beech 99, Metroliner, or a Shorts 330 or 360....

People are just spoiled. Some people still fly on DC3s....we gripe if its not a jet....

Good for Viking, I hope they sell many of the new Twin Otters!!!!!!!!1

Access-Air



Remember, Wherever you go, there you are!!!!
User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5435 posts, RR: 30
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 9302 times:

Quoting Aesma (Reply 8):
The turbo otter is not a 19-seater.

I flew on ones that were configured for 19 seats.



What the...?
User currently offlineDiamondFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1535 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 9280 times:

Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 10):
I flew on ones that were configured for 19 seats.

Not that I don't want to believe you, but how is that even possible? The thing normally has 9-10 seats. No way do you get 19 in an Otter.

-DiamondFlyer


User currently offlineLarshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 9267 times:

Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 10):

I flew on ones that were configured for 19 seats.

Probably a Twin Otter and not a Turbo Otter
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/DeHavilland_Single_Otter_Harbour_Air.jpg



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User currently offlinemarktci From Canada, joined Aug 2009, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 9258 times:

Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 11):
The thing normally has 9-10 seats. No way do you get 19 in an Otter.

West Coast Air, a British Columbia operator of Twin Otter's website shows theirs are configured for 18 pax.

http://www.westcoastair.com/HTML/west_coast_air_fleet.html

It'll be nice for others to get to see the -400. I see it fairly regularly here at CYYJ.


User currently online71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3078 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 9238 times:

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 6):

It might have a tough go as 2-3 more 19-seaters are coming to market soon. I'll start making the popcorn.

Which ones? I love the 19 seaters.


Quoting Access-Air (Reply 9):
Also need a replacement, a try 9 passenger replacement for the Piper Navajo Chieftain and the Cessna 402!!!!!

The Reims/Cessna F406, turboprop 500hp PT6's and still available brand new.




The good old days: Delta L-1011s at MSY
User currently offlineLarshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 9233 times:

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 14):
Which ones? I love the 19 seaters.

The Skylander SK-105 an all new design and RUAG is restarting production of the Dornier 228.

/Lars



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User currently onlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3420 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 9208 times:

Quoting Larshjort (Reply 15):
Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 14):
Which ones? I love the 19 seaters.

The Skylander SK-105 an all new design and RUAG is restarting production of the Dornier 228.

And also Indonesian Aerospace N219 although that will primarily be sold in SE Asia. A Czech firm is developing a 14-seater called the EV-55 Outback. Not sure if it will be for scheduled operations.



"I want to know the voice of God the rest is just details" --A. Einstein
User currently offlinejlbmedia From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 622 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 9204 times:

Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 11):
Not that I don't want to believe you, but how is that even possible? The thing normally has 9-10 seats. No way do you get 19 in an Otter.



According to Viking the Twin Otter is the best selling 19 passenger aircraft in the world.

See link:

http://www.vikingair.com/content.aspx?id=276



JLB54061
User currently offlineLarshjort From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 9199 times:

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 16):
EV-55 Outback

Forgot about that one, it looks really interesting, although it's a bit smaller than the other designs.
http://www.evektor.cz/outback/project-update.asp

/Lars



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User currently offlineDiamondFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1535 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 9163 times:

Quoting marktci (Reply 13):

West Coast Air, a British Columbia operator of Twin Otter's website shows theirs are configured for 18 pax.

http://www.westcoastair.com/HTML/wes....html

I don't doubt that at all. Someone was speaking about the Turbo Otter, DHC-3. The DHC-6 is a Twin Otter, not a Turbo Otter as some people may have called it in this thread. The DHC-3 would seat 10 at most, by my math. Perhaps they'll make new versions of them some day as well. Sorry for the confusion.

-DiamondFlyer


User currently offlinedynamicsguy From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 873 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 8971 times:

Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 14):
Which ones? I love the 19 seaters.

The Government Aircraft Factories N24 Nomad is due to be reborn as the 16-passenger Gippsland Aeronautics Airvan GA18.


User currently offlineFighterPilot From Canada, joined Jun 2005, 1383 posts, RR: 22
Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 8749 times:

Quoting Larshjort (Reply 12):
Probably a Twin Otter and not a Turbo Otter

Boy, she sure is sitting low in the water  

Cal   



*Insert Sound Of GE90 Spooling Up Here*
User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25155 posts, RR: 22
Reply 22, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8581 times:

It will be interesting to see a Twin Otter at Farnborough that looks almost identical to the original model that made its first apperance at Farnborough 46 years ago. That 1966 Farnborough show was also the first one that permitted non-British aircraft to be displayed, although they still had to have either significant British components (e.g. engines) or have some other British connection. I guess the Twin Otter qualified as De Havilland Canada was then owned by Hawker-Siddeley. It was another few years before Farnborough was opened to totally foreign aircraft. I think the first US airliner to be displayed there was the L-1011 due to its Rolls-Royce engines.

If Farnborough was still restricted to British aircraft only, it would be a very small show!


User currently offlinethreepoint From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 2130 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8435 times:

Quoting czbbflier (Reply 5):

On the contrary. If you are a flying nut, where you actually have to FLY the plane, rather than let a roomful of computers do all the work, it is a dream come true. It would be the same as driving a sports car, as opposed to a huge luxury sedan across the country... and back again. It would be thrilling and exhilarating.

Well, that's the first time I've seen anybody allude to the Otter (either version) as a sports car. It's more akin to a half-ton, clunky yet extremely reliable old pickup truck that performs flawlessly in its role. Flying it across the Atlantic might be "exhilarating" until the first fuel stop, but by then, I could imagine every pilot, myself included, will just want to hurry up and get there already.
But long-distance Otter ferries are done all the time: several fly pole to pole seasonally.



The nice thing about a mistake is the pleasure it gives others.
User currently offlinedashman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (4 years 1 month 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8323 times:

Quote:
Someone was speaking about the Turbo Otter, DHC-3. The DHC-6 is a Twin Otter, not a Turbo Otter as some people may have called it in this thread. The DHC-3 would seat 10 at most,

You got that pretty well cleared up. Vicking is reworking the Turbo Beaver (DHC-2,1947) and Twin Otter (DHC-6, 1965) where as the DHC-3 Otter originally was equipped (1951 ) with a radial engine and has been retrofitted by a couple operators with a couple different model turbine engines. Having flown the Twotter and DHC-8 100/200 I have fond memories of both...Then Bombardier created the DHC-8-400, not so fond...fast and lots of gee whiz if you are into that kinda thing.
You gotta love the Canadians for their ability to make great even better. On a similar note check out the CV5800 from Flightcraft in Kelowna. New life for the CV-240/340/440/580, http://www.flightcraft.ca/maintenance_mods_stretch.asp
Another beautiful classic


25 yenne09 : Don't forget the Let 410, the Mielec M28 Skytruck, the Antilles Super Goose, the Dornier Seastar and the Vulcanair A-viator. Also the Islander has a t
26 JoeCanuck : Indeed...I misread.
27 Post contains images DEVILFISH : They had this stretched version which died (or was it Ayres?) before it could generate enough interest..... Perhaps things could've been different ha
28 czbbflier : Perhaps so (assuming you were meaning the twin otter) but none are proven to be so reliable and durable as the DHC-6 Twin Otter! Nothing new there! I
29 JoeCanuck : Actually, if you count handling, the Twin Otter is indeed like a sports car...something like a Mazda MX-5, not the fastest but nothing handles better.
30 Post contains images BMI727 : I'll see your helicopter and raise you a PC-6.
31 Post contains images JoeCanuck : Can the Porter do those moves while hauling this?; (the photo shows the plane half unloaded)
32 BMI727 : The Porter is in many respects about half of a Twin Otter. Half the capacity, half the weight, half the price. The PC-6 does somewhat better than hal
33 yenne09 : The Porter is almost an helicopter. In Nepal there are fields that are suitable only for the Porter. In my previous post I forgot to mention the NAL S
34 threepoint : Couldn't agree more. Hopefully the en route landings involve something more interesting than 200' wide & 10,000' long paved runways at major airp
35 stealthz : Back when the Australian GP was in Adelaide and the Army still operated Porters they would put on quite a spirited display for the racegoers but for
36 FCKC : Which color scheme will get the DHC-6-400 at Farnborough ? USAF cs ? One of the very first customer. Viking air is a little bit wrong , when they said
37 Larshjort : As long as the Skylander orders aren't confirmed Viking is still right. /Lars
38 Post contains images skymiler : But it has been proven that a Twotter can land on 200' long, 10,000' wide runway! I believe that was demonstrated in Downsview (Toronto) many years a
39 Post contains images FighterPilot : I've done the same thing. Never ceases to amaze me how much you can put in a beaver or otter and they'll still take off. Not going to miss swamping a
40 Post contains links and images rikkus67 : View Large View MediumPhoto © Rahul Devnath How is the certification coming along after the crash of one of their prototypes? I will fondly remember
41 Post contains links and images Aesma : The Twin Otter can even walk on water ! View Large View MediumPhoto © Bernd Sturm
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