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How Are The Loads On EK A380 Flight To YYZ?  
User currently offlineairplaneguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 52 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 10434 times:

Fellow Nutters,

Watching the gigantic Emirates A380 on final to YYZ today got me wondering. How full is the flight? Considering the three times weekly (I think) arrival, is it maxed out, and who are all the travelers? Are there that many people traveling to and from Dubai? Thanks in advance.

Airplaneguy

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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24109 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10367 times:

Quoting airplaneguy (Thread starter):
and who are all the travelers? Are there that many people traveling to and from Dubai?

I would guess that 90% (maybe more) of passengers on EK YYZ-DXB-YYZ flights are connecting beyond DXB to/from other points in the Middle East, Asia, and Africa, with India probably being by far the largest origin/destination.


User currently offlineStarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3335 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 10284 times:

Quoting airplaneguy (Thread starter):
How full is the flight? Considering the three times weekly (I think) arrival, is it maxed out, and who are all the travelers?

I have heard figures (mostly on here) ranging from about 60-65% to up to 90%, If I had to venture a guess it would be about 75-85%.

The reason that the A380 is on the DXB-YYZ route is because EK and EY are restricted to 3 times weekly flights to YYZ by the Canadian government and EK wants to max the amount of PAX it can get with that restriction, also some think it was a mere publicity stunt. .

Most passengers on this flight are transiting to mostly India as well as other places in the Middle East, Asia, and Africa as Viscount724 said. EK also wants more service to YYZ up to at least daily and wants to add YVR, and potentially YYC as well.

The Canadian government does not want to currently grant EK more flying rights to Canada unless the O&D market goes up. Some say that this is lobbied by AC not to, but you can search that because there is a lot of AC/Canada vs EK threads.



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User currently offlineSwallow From Uganda, joined Jul 2007, 554 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 9774 times:

FWIW, here is some data from Andrew Parker VP, Emirates

In 2008, Emirates flew a B777-300ER (approx. 354 seats) on the Toronto-Dubai route. Actual capacity for Toronto-Dubai in 2008 was 111,564 seats, of which 99,288 were filled. That is a load factor of 89%. In aviation industry terms this is a very high load factor performance.

in 2009, which included service by both B777-300ER flights until June 1 and then A380 service for the rest of the year, 134,736 seats were offered by Emirates on their Toronto-Dubai service, of which 122,870 were filled. That is a load factor of 91%


http://airceo.com/2010/02/emirates-fights-for-canada-chapter-2/

Given the tense relationship between EK and the Canadian authorities, read whatever you will into the arguments for and against more access into Canada



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User currently offlineairplaneguy From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 52 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6092 times:

Thanks everyone....great information....

User currently offlineyyzbiker From Canada, joined Dec 2009, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5035 times:

Folks the loads are FULL, FULL, FULL, to bad the aircraft keeps breaking down over here. It returned back to gate 173 at T1 again last night after pushing back.

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